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Vietnam war critic warns of similarities with Iraq conflict
AP ^ | November 12, 2005 | ROSA CIRIANNI

Posted on 11/12/2005 4:07:54 PM PST by jmc1969

MAPLEWOOD, N.J. -- The man who leaked secret documents about the Vietnam war indicating the federal government had deceived the public, said he sees a lot of similarities between that war and the one being waged in Iraq.

Daniel Ellsberg, who became famous for his release of what became known as the "Pentagon Papers," spoke to a crowd of more than 400 people Saturday at a local high school in Maplewood.

During Saturday's talk, Ellsberg said both the Vietnam war and the war in Iraq were based on lies, referring to the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Ellsberg also sent out a special message to people working in the federal government today, urging them to speak up now about possible government misconduct they witness relating to the Iraq war.

The Harvard graduate, who has praised government whistleblowers who leak information about the Iraq war, said he wishes he had leaked the Pentagon Papers earlier, possibly ending the war sooner.

Ellsberg said Democratic leadership in Washington is essential for the nation to get out of Iraq, but according to Ellsberg, Democratic politicians are worried about the Bush administration labeling them as unpatriotic, weak on terrorism, or traitors _ something he said happened during the Vietnam era as well.

Ellsberg, who read from his book "Secrets A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers" that was published in 2002, predicted that Bush would want to push through a new Patriot Act that would make the existing one look "like the Bill of Rights."

Westfield resident, Diane Beeny, 48, came to the event wearing a black beret and several anti-war pins with mottos such as : "No War!," and "Military Spending is Killing Us! "

(Excerpt) Read more at nynewsday.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: ellsberg; handwringers
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We agree Iraq is another Vietnam. Thanks for your help.

1 posted on 11/12/2005 4:07:55 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Anybody care to calculate how many years it will take to lose 58,000 American troops in Iraq at the current rate?


2 posted on 11/12/2005 4:11:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: jmc1969

Regurgitations from another tired old anti American hack!


3 posted on 11/12/2005 4:11:59 PM PST by evad ( Politicians are devious scum, right after newspaper editors)
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To: jmc1969

Ellsberg should have been forced to cough up his sources for revealing military secrets like Judy Miller.


4 posted on 11/12/2005 4:15:01 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: cripplecreek

About 60 years.


5 posted on 11/12/2005 4:16:44 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: jmc1969

The big similarities are a bunch of back stabbing politicians and enemy sympathizers in the press.


6 posted on 11/12/2005 4:16:57 PM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: jmc1969
Good old Danny. Still trying like hell to be relevant!
7 posted on 11/12/2005 4:17:13 PM PST by Bommer (To Ted Kennedy - "Fat Drunk and Stupid is no way to go through life son!" - Dean Wormer)
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To: jmc1969
"...spoke to a crowd of more than 400 people Saturday at a local high school in Maplewood.

Wow! That's a record-breaking crowd! /s

8 posted on 11/12/2005 4:17:14 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: jmc1969

This posting is in dire need of a "Barf Alert." Without a warning, I read the whole thing and now....aaurrghhh


9 posted on 11/12/2005 4:17:52 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: jmc1969

The primary similarity is that the war protestors are undermining our effort in Iraq, just as they did in Vietnam.


10 posted on 11/12/2005 4:18:44 PM PST by Brilliant
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My God, when will the ridiculous comparisons to Vietnam finally be universally recognized as cheesy and the last refuge of tired, old and unapolagetic communists?


11 posted on 11/12/2005 4:19:49 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: jmc1969

Why hasn't this clown been backed up against a wall and suffered a severe lead poisoning attack?

50 years ago we wouldn't have to ask why, just why so long.

TT


12 posted on 11/12/2005 4:21:59 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: cripplecreek

LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN THE UNITED STATES

http://www.the-eggman.com/writings/death_stats.html


13 posted on 11/12/2005 4:22:57 PM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Brilliant

Ellsberg believes in freedom for himself. Others can hope to jump on a boat or run like hell through the rice paddies with a baby on their back. Cambodian and dead Vietnamese thank you Danny. Communism isn't all that bad to people living outside the Mao bubble. I am betting Ellsberg never studied anything about how the Chinese Communists came to power and what they did to the Chinese people. Ellsberg has to be blood kin to Mr. Berg


14 posted on 11/12/2005 4:24:03 PM PST by oldironsides
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To: Semper Paratus
Ellsberg should have been forced to cough up his sources for revealing military secrets like Judy Miller.

Agreed.

15 posted on 11/12/2005 4:26:07 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: LibFreeOrDie
The shame of this is if asked for equal time for those that support the war they wouldn't allow you access to Maplewood High. But in the liberal enclave of Maplewood, you might have problems getting any support.
16 posted on 11/12/2005 4:26:52 PM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad (and proud of it))
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To: airborne

Amen. Traitors like him should be behind bars. Not in front of school crowd.


17 posted on 11/12/2005 4:34:18 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: jmc1969

There are NO simularities between the Vietnam war and the war on terror. Period.


18 posted on 11/12/2005 4:40:16 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: cripplecreek
I'm shocked to see that pig, Ellsberg, is still here, after all these years.
19 posted on 11/12/2005 4:41:12 PM PST by isrul
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To: Semper Paratus
Ellsberg should have been forced to cough up his sources for revealing military secrets like Judy Miller.

Outsource this to the Jordanians for gathering source information. Ellsberg belongs in prison.

20 posted on 11/12/2005 4:44:15 PM PST by afnamvet
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