Skip to comments.Can you modify an AR 10T to make it legal in CA
Posted on 11/13/2005 12:59:25 AM PST by vitalemj
I'm looking at buying an AR-10T but live in CA. It seems all info I find says you can't own a weapon with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip. The new bushmasters AR-15's have a lower receiver with the magazine well blocked off and a 10 round magazine welded in. Is there any law stating you can't have a qualified gunsmith weld the magazine (six round) in the lower receiver so it functions the same as a these new CA legal lower receivers? I would appreciate anyone with any knowledge, and hopefully documentation, either for against this procedure. Thanks, Mike? firstname.lastname@example.org
Welcome to FR. Good Question.
Contact your local police department and ask to speak to the PD rangemaster. Ask him that question.
Contact the state DOJ and ask them that question.
California only approves specific variations of specific guns. If you take a blued gun, and chrome plate it, it becomes, for legal purposes, another gun altogether.
The only hope you have is to migrate to America.
Move..take your tax dollars to a state that understands what the 2nd Amendment means.
Generally speaking, I'll have to disagree with you regarding the PD rangemaster being clueless; however the state DOJ does have all the updates to any new laws regarding weapons and the modification of weapons, etc.
Try asking here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3
or on the Legal/Political board at that site. Pretty knowledgeable people over there.
I was so frustrated when asking IL State police about gun law. That was followed by continued frustration when talking with local LE. I had better luck with questions at a gun shop which had documentation right there.
OPINION: I understand endthematrix.
That is why I started my last post began with the term "Generally speaking" because not all law enforcement agencies have the same level and/or standard of training.
You may wish to contact the California Rifle and Pistol Association.
California is lost.
Move back to the United States.
I wouldn't ask anyone in goverment short of the state Attorney General. He's the one who ultimately decides whether to prosecute, so betting your freedom on the legal interpretations of a rangemaster at a PD seems like a high-risk move. Plus, the first rule of being a bureaucrat is that you'll never get fired by saying 'no', so that's the first answer one usually gets in situations like this.
If it were me, I'd find an attorney versed in California gun law. Or moving from the state is looking real attractive now that every reform proposition has been rejected by the slumbering sheep that infest this place.
Move to Texas. Your AR-10 will be legal and will be commented favorably upon at the local shooting range.
Give your local BATF office a call. They should be able to answer your questions.
Welcome to FR.
HAHAHA! I like that!
It's a state law, not federal. Even it was federal the advice of some low leve BATFE flunky is not worth anything. They are quite likely to come arrest you and confiscate your firearms on the basis of the question. Even if they initially say what you've got is OK, another "agent" may disagrees and bust you. Unless you get it from them officially and in writing, and from the proper official, it's just vaporware.
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