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Liberal Love-In on Fox & Friends: "Disenfranchised" French Yoots; Rove Should "Recuse" Himself
Fox & Friends Weekend | governsleastgovernsbest

Posted on 11/13/2005 4:25:54 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Just when you thought Fox & Friends Weekend couldn't get any worse . . .

I thought it was bad enough when Juliet Huddy and Mike Jerrick were providing some kind of balance to Julian Phillips blatherings.

It's a sign of just how bad things have gotten, with Juliet and Mike now gone, that Phillips has become something of the voice of reason!

Kiran Chetry and Page Hopkins are sitting in this morning with Phillips, and the trio tried to outdo each other in their PC comments on the French riots.

While the women wrung their hands about how the French yoots have been "disenfranchised," Phillips talked about how the underclasses have historically been mistreated in France "going back to the time of the French revolution!

If there was anything in their discussion about the rioters being Muslims, egged on by radical imams, I missed it.

Then it was on to a discussion of the GOP's fortunes. The screen was filled with shots of Rove and Condi and I am not 100% certain who made the comment, but it seemed that it was Page Hopkins who suggested that since Karl Rove has become such a "lightning rod," it might be a good idea for him to "recuse himself.

"Recuse himself? That is something a judge does when he has a conflict of interest. I'm assuming that Page was suggesting that Rove either resign or take a leave of absence, but who really knows?

Here's where Julian played the voice of reason [!], saying he wasn't sure Rove's 'recusal' was the answer.

What a mess of a show. Has the time has come for Fox News to scrap the weekend edition and start again from scratch?


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1 posted on 11/13/2005 4:25:56 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Fox & Friends Weekend ping to the Today show ping list.


2 posted on 11/13/2005 4:27:09 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I really like the FOX News channel, but I have to take a pass on Fox & Friends. That show just sucks. I would rather sit in silence than have those people blathering on. Strangely, the weekend edition seems to be worse than the weekday one.


3 posted on 11/13/2005 4:31:01 AM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I cut off F&F Weekend this morning and have watched it for the last time. If I wanted to watch uninformed liberals performing for the cameras, I'd be a Katie Couric "Today Show" fan. This morning's pity party for the poor Muslim rioters was simply the last straw. We bought Dish several years ago to get a more balanced media outlet. This morning's show, plus promos for Fox's global warming special tonight, makes me question if it's worth what we're spending to get Fox. If the goal of Ailes is just to be another liberal msm channel, we may just drop Fox and Dish in '06.


4 posted on 11/13/2005 4:32:12 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I'm not sure Fox news hasn't been drifting to the dark side for some time now. I think they are falling under the celebrity, beltway type of spell Rush is always talking about.


5 posted on 11/13/2005 4:33:04 AM PST by eddie2 (Go Cats)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
Strangely, the weekend edition seems to be worse than the weekday one.

I'd say that's indisputable. Brian Kilmeade is solid and the others are bearable. The weekend show is down to liberal Julian Phillips accompanied by a rotating cast of others.

6 posted on 11/13/2005 4:33:05 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Surprised about Page Hopkins. My read on her is that she is a true conservative.

Phillips is an idiot.


7 posted on 11/13/2005 4:33:31 AM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If we want to listen to that drivel, we can watch dozens of OTHER channels. Maybe an email or ten to friends@foxnews.com.....


8 posted on 11/13/2005 4:34:15 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I was watching til Paige Hopkins started gushing over her upcoming interview with Robert Kennedy Jr.

*blech*


9 posted on 11/13/2005 4:34:27 AM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Eng. K.I.A. 25 April 2005)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Put me on the Fox & Friends ping list, please.

I just tuned in - normally I am up an hour ago.


10 posted on 11/13/2005 4:35:27 AM PST by texianyankee
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I refuse to watch them.


11 posted on 11/13/2005 4:36:51 AM PST by hershey
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Met Brian last Sunday in the Bagel Shop, you can tell he is genuine. Nice guy.


12 posted on 11/13/2005 4:37:47 AM PST by Shady
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I only have on because NY1 the local station only does local stuff and thinks the the french situation is unimportant. I have not watched them for months.


13 posted on 11/13/2005 4:38:18 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Everything points to it so why not call them the Whigs?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
While the women wrung their hands about how the French yoots have been "disenfranchised," Phillips talked about how the underclasses have historically been mistreated in France "going back to the time of the French revolution!

Just as I put the TV on, that's what they were discussing. My foggy ,no caffeine yet brain registered Lib "Buzz" words. Not a good way to start the morning! ;-)

14 posted on 11/13/2005 4:40:21 AM PST by tiredoflaundry ("Youth" - French for Muslim Rioters)
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To: eddie2

It's from being in NYC. That's a mistake.

They should be based in Dallas, Houston, or somewhere with less concentration of liberals --- the attitudes of neighbors and friends and even the union grip and camera man slowly invade the show.


15 posted on 11/13/2005 4:41:03 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

No reason to watch but for Juliet.


16 posted on 11/13/2005 4:41:58 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

phillips and chetry had to make up for yesterday because michelle malkin was in the house and they were behaving like two little puppy dogs.


17 posted on 11/13/2005 4:42:28 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: Patriot from Philly
Page Hopkins went to Wellesley ... the Hildabeast's alma mata

Phillips IS an idiot and he makes the weekend show unwatchable

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18 posted on 11/13/2005 4:43:21 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I first started watching the show when it was Juliet, Brian, Steve & Mike Jerrick.

I've never been impressed with Julian.


19 posted on 11/13/2005 4:43:37 AM PST by texianyankee
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To: Patriot from Philly
Surprised about Page Hopkins. My read on her is that she is a true conservative.

Although the camera wasn't on the hosts when one of them suggested Rove "recuse" himself, when the cameras came back on the panel there is no doubt it was Page who suggested that Rove consider doing so.

20 posted on 11/13/2005 4:44:12 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

You have made me realize how much I don't listen to the morning show..I just turned it on for noise while I read here..

There is a history of France not liking "furriners"(like us)..They have been content to have the African muslims ghettoed in their own spots..not allowing them to feel a part of ..The flip side of the coin is that the Muslims want "no go" for French police..They want to impose Muslim rules in their area..and hate the French..They don't like Western rules.
Poverty,no..idleness, yes.. according to this..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1521081/posts
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The elephant isn't really there, the media assure us. "The violence in France has not taken on religious overtones," said the New York Times. "Islamic ideology and leaders play no role in the disturbances," said the Washington Post.

But the "disaffected youth" shout "Allahu Akbar" as they toss Molotov cocktails into churches and synagogues. They talk of turning Paris into "Baghdad on the Seine."

French arrogance and racism, and the sclerosis of the French welfare state help explain why the elephant hasn't assimilated. But the larger reason is that the elephant has chosen not to.

snip


21 posted on 11/13/2005 4:44:29 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Has the time has come for Fox News to scrap the weekend edition and start again from scratch?

Yes. I just switched to C-Span. FNF has become unwatchable, except for Michelle Malkin, who was co-hosting yesterday. Ms. Hopkins interviewed two people yesterday on how poor President Bush could get out of the hole he is in and she had one guy who really hates the President and another guy who just kind of doesn't like him. It was pretty awful.

22 posted on 11/13/2005 4:45:49 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I have never understood why such a mediocre news outlet as Fox has the liberals worried. (Only the stupid or bored would watch Greta and Hannity/Colmes, and O'Reilly serves without any apparent intellectual compass.) It must be because the MSM programs are so biased viewers will turn to anything.


23 posted on 11/13/2005 4:46:17 AM PST by gaspar
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To: tiredoflaundry

Nice tag line, though we prefer the more evocative "yoot" ;-)


24 posted on 11/13/2005 4:47:54 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

And Juliet's gone from Fox & Friends Weekend now, off to greener pastures on "Dayside."


25 posted on 11/13/2005 4:48:50 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
"It's from being in NYC. That's a mistake. "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>......

F&F is a show that seems to be aimed at women with a little T&A for guys who are watching with them. A touchy feely program more and more..gotta wonder why FOX came on so strong several years ago with a much more conservative view point but has moved left and we who watched it know we will soon be getting another NBC or CBS..Fox you are leaving your audience, not very smart business.
26 posted on 11/13/2005 4:49:13 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Better? ;-)


27 posted on 11/13/2005 4:49:25 AM PST by tiredoflaundry ("Yoot" - French for Muslim Rioters)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; All
So why do you guys watch it at all?

Just change the channel and let their ratings take the hit.

I'm not a masochist...
28 posted on 11/13/2005 4:49:55 AM PST by DB ()
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To: gaspar

Brit Hume
Tony Snow

Hannity is OK

Greta is a freakshow

F&F during the week is OK, especially when compared to the dreck on the other channels; the weekend used to be great b/c of Juliet, mainly because I can just tell she is a wild chick (some reason to watch the news, huh?)


29 posted on 11/13/2005 4:51:16 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: tiredoflaundry

Excellent! There's something about "yoot" that brings a smile to the face, wouldn't you say?


30 posted on 11/13/2005 4:51:25 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: txradioguy
I was watching til Paige Hopkins started gushing over her upcoming interview with Robert Kennedy Jr. *blech*

My thoughts exactly!

31 posted on 11/13/2005 4:51:45 AM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: gaspar

That's the deal, there is no news on TV worth watching. By the way did you hear the rioters set fire to a car and drove it into an old folks home. Muslim euthanassia!


32 posted on 11/13/2005 4:52:36 AM PST by eddie2 (Go Cats)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ah, but YESTERDAY had Michelle Malkin acting as host. She was terrific! I wish they'd haveher more often.

Thanks for the warning, however.I'll be certain I'll NOT tune in this AM. The weater channel sounds likea good alternative! I'm so happy that Juliet and Mike are gone, but I hope they settle on someone sensible to fill the spot.


33 posted on 11/13/2005 4:52:43 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Yes It does! It make me think of my "yoot" growing up in Brooklyn! :-)


34 posted on 11/13/2005 4:53:06 AM PST by tiredoflaundry ("Yoot" - French for Muslim Rioters)
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To: Shady

So what Bagel Shop do you frequent to run into such celebs?


35 posted on 11/13/2005 4:54:56 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Brian Kilmeade is an idiot -- closely followed by E.D. Steve seemsto be the only one with any sense, but that is debatable at times. Yet, there is nothing elseon in the AM that is even bearable.


36 posted on 11/13/2005 4:55:00 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: DB
So why do you guys watch it at all?

I'm not a masochist.

I've sometimes described myself as a masochist for my habit of watching and reporting on liberal media bias at the Today Show. But I do think it's worthwhile keeping tabs on what the MSM are up to. When the weekend rolls around I feel a need to feed my liberal media bias jones, and so tune into Fox & Friends.

Julian Phillips, and Ellen Ratner who appears on the "Long and the Short of It" segment on the weekend show, are a treasure trove of outrageous liberal fare.

37 posted on 11/13/2005 4:55:39 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: DB

During the week I find Special Report with Brit Hume the best news show...


38 posted on 11/13/2005 4:55:46 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"Phillips talked about how the underclasses have historically been mistreated in France "going back to the time of the French revolution!"

Geesh, he sees Les Mis one time and thinks he is an expert.


39 posted on 11/13/2005 4:56:03 AM PST by Toespi
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; All
As always, a good essay...BTW...I ,must make a public confession...for some time now I have been so annpoyed by the weekend Fox morning show..especially Julian, but also metrosexual Mike, that I have been turning on.... GASP!!!! MSNBC..pretty good show, fairly even in its tone..no stupid bantering..straightforward news, and yes, I must admit it..I find Alex Witt hot!!! ( BTW..for those of you not familar with the show..Alex is a girl...)

Question: do we now need an "Alex Witt rule?"

40 posted on 11/13/2005 4:56:53 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Toespi
Geesh, he sees Les Mis one time and thinks he is an expert.

Now that you mention it, I bet you're absolutely right as to how Julian came by his "expertise" on French history!

41 posted on 11/13/2005 4:57:26 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: All

I don't like the way FNC treated the viewers of the weekend morning show - when one day Mike and Juliet were just "gone" but their website said nothing about it and we had Julian being an a** for hours on end.

I started e-mailing but haven't had one answer. They could have at least prepared a "stock answer" to fire out to the viewers. I am the one who fought to get FNC in our city cable systems years ago...because we needed balance over the other stuff.

I was disappointed in Malkin yesterday - but she is an excellent writer - very stiff on camera. A shame because she is a beautiful woman - clearly out of her milieu. She was on CSPAN one morning and sitting talking about her own subjects...she is peerless.... but not in a chatroom kind of situation.

Surely there are some talented folk who could replace this ever changing cast of awfuls.... the news readers (Hopkins, etc.) are not good anchor material.... and Julian should be farmed out unless he has some awful contract they are working out...but what about us???

The numbers must be horrendous and I hope the advertisers are getting the message. That's it...let's write the advertisers (if there are any).

Whatever....Julian has to go! He turns every discussion onto himself....the guy is a loser.

Sorreee..I am a TV News Junkie...but I always come to Free Republic to get the facts behind the fantasy I see on television.


42 posted on 11/13/2005 4:58:05 AM PST by imintrouble
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To: hershey

"I refuse to watch them."

I should refuse to do so too. I tuned in for about 60 seconds. Just long enough to hear one of them say - calling the rioters in France *scum* made things worse. What a bunch of BS. Do they (the liberals on Fox)really think the thugs who are rioting, give a rip which names, they are called. This PC stuff is absolute insanity.

Fox is no different from the rest of the MSM, imo. I don't think we are getting a tenth of the news out of France. It's difficult to know just how bad things are over there, when we have no news outlet we can trust. Pretty sad.


43 posted on 11/13/2005 4:58:59 AM PST by Pepper777
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To: ken5050
Do we now need an "Alex Witt rule?"

Not in my book, but I'll let others be the judge.


44 posted on 11/13/2005 4:59:31 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: ken5050
Question: do we now need an "Alex Witt rule?"

LOL !

45 posted on 11/13/2005 4:59:58 AM PST by tiredoflaundry ("Yoot" - French for Muslim Rioters)
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To: MEG33
During the week I find Special Report with Brit Hume the best news show

Brit's Grapevine, panel and "finally" segments are great.

46 posted on 11/13/2005 5:00:30 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: gaspar

Do you actually watch FNC or do you just get your opinion of Fox from DU?


47 posted on 11/13/2005 5:00:35 AM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Eng. K.I.A. 25 April 2005)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; maggief

Oh, come on...just look at that clenched jaw, those piercing eyes..that is a fine looking woman..


48 posted on 11/13/2005 5:02:55 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

As I have said before - Fox News has gone left and it is getting closer to CNN everyday. We put them in first place and they have gone over to the side of the anti-American left wing.

I have stopped watching anything except Bill, and Bret.


49 posted on 11/13/2005 5:03:11 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I do think it's worthwhile keeping tabs on what the MSM are up to.

An invaluable service, may I say.

50 posted on 11/13/2005 5:05:04 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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