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House takes up leak review - Leaks about CIA prisons overseas spark fury (Which Senator did it?)
Mohave Daily News ^ | 11/10/05

Posted on 11/13/2005 7:44:14 AM PST by Libloather

House takes up leak review
Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:01 PM PST

WASHINGTON (AP) - The House Intelligence Committee will look into a possible leak of classified information about secret CIA prisons but will not reopen its 2003 inquiry into prewar intelligence on Iraq.

As calls for intelligence-related reviews grow on Capitol Hill, Rep. Peter Hoekstra, R-Mich., said Thursday his committee will study several specific leaks of classified information, including a Nov. 2 Washington Post story that discussed the existence of secret CIA prisons overseas.

The story said the ‘‘black sites'' were in eight countries, including democracies in Eastern Europe. Hoekstra would not confirm the story's accuracy or whether the prisons exist.

‘‘The depth of the leaks that we have seen in the intelligence community over the last 12 to 18 months have done irreparable harm to our ability to effectively conduct the war on terror,'' Hoekstra said.

When classified activities overseas are disclosed, he said, foreign intelligence agencies see their involvement leaked to the American press, hurting crucial relationships.

California Rep. Jane Harman, the committee's top Democrat, said the committee should return to its work on the prewar intelligence on Iraq. She was echoing efforts of Senate Democrats to draw attention to the administration's mistakes on the war.

The House committee, then led by current CIA Director Porter Goss, produced an interim report on Iraq in September 2003 that found the U.S. went to war in Iraq on the basis of outdated and vague intelligence.

‘‘The point of it is to understand fully how we collected, analyzed and presented intelligence ... and what responsibility the intelligence community had to correct misinformation by policy-makers,'' Harman said in an interview.

Hoekstra said work on the flawed prewar estimates will stay with the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is in the second phase of its own investigation.

‘‘We do not see it as being necessary for us to do a redundant effort,'' he said.

The Senate committee produced a 511-page report in July and is now studying five remaining lines of inquiry, including divisive questions about whether policy-makers misstated the intelligence to make the case for war.

President Bush's national security adviser, Stephen Hadley, took issue with ‘‘the notion that somehow the administration manipulated prewar intelligence about Iraq.''

‘‘Some of the critics today believed themselves in 2002 that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, they stated that belief and they voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq because they believed Saddam Hussein posed a dangerous threat to the American people,'' Hadley said.

‘‘For those critics to ignore their own past statements exposes the hollowness of their current attacks,'' he said.

Hadley said the intelligence on Saddam's alleged weapons of mass destruction, which were never found, was ‘‘based on the aggregation of intelligence from a number of sources and represented the collective view of the intelligence community.''

The House committee's leaks investigation comes at the request of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., and House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill.

Hoekstra said he had yet to determine the scope of the inquiry, but would devise a plan with Harman. He said he has not yet decided whether the Post reporter, Dana Priest, would be asked to disclose her confidential sources. Messages left Thursday with a spokesman for the paper were not immediately returned.

In a two-year federal investigation, New York Times reporter Judith Miller went to jail for 85 days to protect a source, I. Lewis Libby, the vice president's former chief of staff. Both were caught up in a probe over who leaked the identity of CIA covert operative Valerie Plame.

Libby was charged with five-counts of perjury and other charges.

Hoekstra said he is interested in reviewing that case and the disclosure of the total U.S. intelligence budget, which may have been a mistake. At a conference in San Antonio last week, the top U.S. official for intelligence collection, Mary Margaret Graham, said the figure is $44 billion.

Congress has engaged in rigorous debate about whether the number can be made public and decided against it.

When asked if there is ever a good leak, Hoekstra said ‘‘maybe'' that could be argued in some cases. ‘‘But it is not appropriate for a person who is entrusted with a security clearance to make that decision on their own.''


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
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Leaks about CIA prisons overseas spark fury
By Peter Grier and Gail Russell Chaddock, Staff writers of The Christian Science Monitor
Thu Nov 10, 3:00 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Allegations of a veiled network of CIA prisons overseas have added another chapter to the story of US detention policies in the post-9/11 age - and resulted in furious reactions from Eastern Europe to Washington's Capitol Hill.

Romania and other ex-Soviet bloc nations have hurriedly denied they know anything about such secret jails, while in the US the CIA and top congressional Republicans want to find out who leaked the story in the first place.

If nothing else, this flurry of activity serves to keep the words "detention" and "America" linked in news reports around the world. In the US, the government faces the prospect of an internal investigation only weeks after vice presidential staffer I. Lewis Libby was indicted in another leak case. "When you get into investigations around here, where does it end?" asked Sen. Trent Lott (R) of Mississippi on Tuesday.

On Nov. 3, the Washington Post reported that the CIA had set up a covert network of prisons overseas to hold high-value terrorism suspects. At times the web contained as many as eight sites, said the Post - some of them in now- democratic East European countries.

The news story did not name the countries in question. The nongovernment organization Human Rights Watch, however, issued a statement last week saying that it had information that CIA airplanes traveling from Afghanistan in 2003 and 2004 made direct flights to remote airfields in Romania and Poland.

For instance, a Boeing 737 that the CIA had previously used for prisoner transport - registration number N313P - flew from Kabul to Poland's Szczytno-Szymany airport on Sept. 22, 2003, Human Rights Watch said. Polish intelligence maintains a large installation near that location.

The N313P plane landed at Mihail Kogalniceanu military airfield in Romania the next day, said Human Rights Watch. The plane then went on to Morocco, and ultimately Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

From the US point of view, the most important legal aspect of the network itself may not be the existence of the prison, but the conduct of the jailers inside them.

Its legality "depends on what happens in the prison camps," says Alfred Rubin, a professor of international law at the Fletcher School at Tufts University.

Any nation hosting the prison, however, may at least risk domestic political problems. Romanian President Traian Basescu said Tuesday that his country had received no request from the US to site a secret CIA prison on its territory. Slovakia has also denied involvement.

The Council of Europe, whose membership includes all nations of the continent except Belarus, has said it will investigate the alleged prisons, with an eye to debating the issue at its next meeting, scheduled for Bucharest, Romania, on Nov. 25.

On the question of who leaked the story, the US Justice Department will undertake a preliminary inquiry, per an official request from the CIA. It's at least possible that this inquiry could grow into a full-scale investigation, similar to that which has ensnared Mr. Libby.

On Capitol Hill, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are calibrating how far to push leak investigations - and how much damage the White House has already sustained because of them.

In a joint letter to the House and Senate intelligence committees, Speaker Dennis Hastert and Senate majority leader Bill Frist called the leak an "egregious disclosure" that will imperil efforts to protect the American people.

They asked the committees to conduct a probe.

This call for a rare bicameral investigation came as a surprise to the GOP chairmen of the intelligence panels, as well as to the Democratic leadership.

"This is only a play to the press; that's all this is.... They're trying to change the direction of what's going on here a little bit," said Democratic leader Harry Reid, after meeting with the Democratic Caucus on Tuesday.

1 posted on 11/13/2005 7:44:18 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Have this investigation and clear this up !

Email your Rep and tell them to get off their butts !!


2 posted on 11/13/2005 7:55:19 AM PST by Zenith
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To: Zenith

These folks have no heart for a fight to clean up the beltway.


3 posted on 11/13/2005 7:56:07 AM PST by pointsal
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To: Libloather
Repeat the lie often enough and it becomes the truth.

We found wmd including nerve and mustard agents, undeclared bio, proscribed missles and uavs and a start up nuke program, including 1.7 tons of enriched uranium and 500 tons of yellowcake and the confessed intent to resume full production once sanctions were lifted.

What we didn't find were large stockpiles that he admitted he had in 1996. We were supposed to believe him when he said that he inilaterally desroyed them in the desert and can't remember where.

4 posted on 11/13/2005 7:57:10 AM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Libloather

Amazing how on one hand the MSM plays up Wilson-Plame as the guardians of freedom and the American way while on the other hand, the MSM willingly, almost gleefully, exposes and destroys the true purposes of the Agency with leaks of their own.

I hope heads roll.


5 posted on 11/13/2005 7:58:09 AM PST by sully777 (The Religion Of Peace apparently kills!)
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To: Libloather
Image hosted by Photobucket.com leak, they call this a Leak??? last time there was a LEAK like this... Noah built hiself a boat!!!
6 posted on 11/13/2005 7:58:43 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Libloather
Republicans hold the chairmanships and the power of investigation. That is why the Dims keep yeeling about what they want investigated.

Republicans would do well to ignore them and investigate that which they feel is important to the country.

7 posted on 11/13/2005 7:58:59 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: Zenith

Prediction: A report will be filed and guilty parties identified in the year 2525.


8 posted on 11/13/2005 8:00:24 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Libloather

This investigation is a bad idea because it confirms the secret prisons.. it won't be long before the media will be making comparisons with nasty regimes that we don't want mentioned in the same sentence with the U.S.A.

I wonder if Red Cross already knew about the prisons... I hope we have had some kind of Red Cross oversight - they are pretty good at keeping quiet and that will go a long way to allow us to claim the prisons were acceptably humanitarian.


9 posted on 11/13/2005 8:00:48 AM PST by gondramB
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To: Libloather

One thing is for sure if Dana got it from a Conservative we would have known that in the first sentence of her article.

So looks like everyone with clearance need be put under oath in public, kinda of like that 9/11 soviet style Commission!!!!


10 posted on 11/13/2005 8:01:14 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Libloather

The Demo/Reds want to leave Poland holding the bag on behalf of Russian interests to remain the totem pole in the region.
The self interested un-American citizens are our worst enemy and many of them are inside the beltway.


11 posted on 11/13/2005 8:07:56 AM PST by Spirited
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To: Libloather
California Rep. Jane Harman, the committee's top Democrat, said the committee should return to its work on the prewar intelligence on Iraq. She was echoing efforts of Senate Democrats to draw attention to the administration's mistakes on the war.

Dear Jane,
It's time to get "with it." It's time to deal with today's problems, rather than yesterday's problems.

12 posted on 11/13/2005 8:08:33 AM PST by syriacus (Libs + French think US freeing France is AOK, but US freeing Iraq is BAD. Are they racist?)
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To: ez
That is why the Dims keep yelling about what they want investigated.

It could be a Republican this time. Doesn't matter to me.

Who told of CIA's hidden prisons?
GOP leaders want investigation in wake of Washington Post story.
By Rebecca Carr
WASHINGTON BUREAU
Wednesday, November 9, 2005

WASHINGTON -- House and Senate Republican leaders demanded an investigation Tuesday into who leaked classified material to The Washington Post about the CIA's secret use of prisons abroad to interrogate terrorism suspects.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., and House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., sent a letter to the chairmen of the congressional intelligence committees asking them to immediately start a joint investigation of who gave Washington Post reporter Dana Priest information about the covert prison system operating in eight countries, including several democracies in Eastern Europe.

The Nov. 2 article detailed how the prisons were used by the CIA and renewed questions about treatment of detainees.

The GOP letter states that the disclosure "could have long-term and far-reaching damaging and dangerous consequences, and will imperil our efforts to protect the American people and our homeland from terrorist attacks."

The CIA also wants to know who leaked information to Priest. The agency has filed a report to the Justice Department stating that classified information might have been released through the article in an unauthorized way.

Such referrals often prompt leak investigations by the Justice Department, but few lead to criminal charges. The recent indictment of Lewis "Scooter" Libby, a former aide to Vice President Dick Cheney, was a rare exception. And even in that instance, Libby was charged with perjury, making false statements and obstruction of justice, not the release of classified information in the leak of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame's name.

Late Tuesday afternoon, a senior Republican aide on the Senate Intelligence Committee, who requested anonymity because of the political sensitivity of the issue, said he could not recall an instance in which the panel investigated an alleged leak of classified information, except in cases where there was suspicion that someone on the panel's staff had been involved.

"If the Justice Department gets engaged, it becomes very problematic to cross paths with them," the aide said.

The investigation is expected to be wide-ranging, and Priest's story appears to rely on current and former intelligence sources.

But the story took an odd twist just a few hours after Frist and Hastert announced their intentions.

Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., told CNN that the leak probably came from Republican senators themselves.

Lott said that much of the information contained in Priest's story was discussed at a meeting of Republican senators and Cheney on Nov. 1, the day before the Post story was published.

In their letter, Frist and Hastert requested that the intelligence committees move "expeditiously" to complete their investigation. Such an inquiry is rare and reserved for major investigations, such as the examination of the intelligence failures leading up to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Any information about possible wrongdoing should be sent to the Justice Department, they wrote.

"The leaking of classified information by employees of the United States government appears to have increased in recent years, establishing a dangerous trend that, if not addressed swiftly and firmly, likely will worsen," the letter states.

Eric Gant, a spokesman for The Washington Post, said the paper had no comment.

Responding to reports of the request for an inquiry, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the matter "ought to be taken seriously. . . . This is a congressional prerogative, and it was a decision that was made by those leaders, and that's the way I would describe it."

Democrats responded by calling for Republicans to begin a congressional investigation into the alleged manipulation of intelligence leading up to the war in Iraq.

"I hope their newfound zeal for investigations will mean they are now willing to join with us to give our troops and the American people the answers they deserve on how this administration used and misused intelligence as it made its case for war in Iraq," Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said in a written statement.

The specter of yet another reporter possibly being forced to divulge sources worries advocates of open government. Recently, Judith Miller of the New York Times and Matthew Cooper of Time magazine were compelled to testify about their confidential sources in a grand jury inquiry regarding the Plame case.

"These are scary times," said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. "Today's action makes it seem like there is a concerted effort to keep the public from learning the truth."

13 posted on 11/13/2005 8:09:45 AM PST by Libloather (Geena Davis isn't man enough to play Hillary on TV. Heck, BILL isn't man enough to play Hillary...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Prediction: A report will be filed and guilty parties identified in the year 2525.

My Prediction: One or more Pubbies will end up resigning or being fired before a Dem will.

[Remember, Sandy Bergler got a lesser sentence for stealing -- numerous times -- and destroying classified National Security documents than Martha Stewart got for lying about a sale of company stocks.]
14 posted on 11/13/2005 8:12:33 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Spirited

One of the (many) things that worries me is the dependancy our elected officials have on junior staff and interns. I believe that not enough is made to secure those working in and around classified material.
Anyone who has access to and can pass along info will do it if he/she believes they are 'doing the right thing' and the left have so twisted what the right thing is, that I could see a younger, more naive staffer doing their part and not batting an eye.


15 posted on 11/13/2005 8:17:10 AM PST by HangWithMe
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To: Libloather

Ia it possible that Lott's public speculation is in fact a ruse to generate press interest in this leak? Could our side actually deploy a tactic such as this?


16 posted on 11/13/2005 8:20:57 AM PST by snakedriver
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To: gondramB
"... I hope we have had some kind of Red Cross oversight - they are pretty good at keeping quiet and that will go a long way to allow us to claim the prisons were acceptably humanitarian."


Excellent! You will do well in politics.


Lord knows there aren't enough delusional straw graspers left.



17 posted on 11/13/2005 8:21:22 AM PST by G.Mason (The barbarians are at the gate ... the Democrats and RINO's stand ready to open it for them)
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To: HangWithMe

Doc Wheeler suspects the leaker is McCain.


18 posted on 11/13/2005 8:22:29 AM PST by Huevos Rancheros
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To: Libloather
"Which Senator Did It?"

My vote is for the one whose last name starts with "Mc" and ends with "n".

19 posted on 11/13/2005 8:26:41 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: Libloather
"My belief is we are running a facility at Guantanamo that has no unlawful activities," the Walnut Creek Democrat said Monday after returning from a seven-hour visit Saturday to the prison at the U.S. Navy base. But she said that improvement over widely reported abuses at the prison probably has come about because questionable activities have been moved elsewhere.

"These things aren't happening at Guantanamo because it's gotten too hot for them," she said, referring to U.S. authorities responsible for interrogating recalcitrant al Qaeda terrorism suspects captured in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

This quote is from Ellen Tauscher on 6/28/05. It is on her website which also sites the SF Chron article. Can't remember how to post a link but you can cut and paste http://www.ellentauscher.com/what/index.asp?ID=156

20 posted on 11/13/2005 8:27:01 AM PST by reformed_dem
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To: G.Mason

"Excellent! You will do well in politics.


Lord knows there aren't enough delusional straw graspers left."


Even the Nazis allowed Red cross visits. It is strategically wise for us to do the same.


21 posted on 11/13/2005 8:33:12 AM PST by gondramB
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To: Real Cynic No More

We can only hope that if it isn't a 'Rat, it's a RINO.


22 posted on 11/13/2005 8:33:33 AM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Zenith

Here's a clue: Inside information has been leaked to the Radical Left:

http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/65584/index.php


23 posted on 11/13/2005 8:35:17 AM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: snakedriver

Well,,,,,I suppose our side could use that tactic, but I doubt it in this case.

By the way, how the heck do you pronounce "Szczytno-Szymany?"


24 posted on 11/13/2005 8:39:58 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: snakedriver

You're giving the "stupid" party way too much credit again.


25 posted on 11/13/2005 8:42:57 AM PST by penowa
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To: Libloather

I hope the Senate and House will get going on this investigation really soon. Did not McClain introduce a piece of legislation to protect reporters from having to testify about their sources? Hummmmmmmmm!!! Wonder who leaked the information to a Washington Post reporter about all this stuff?????? Say it ain't so, Johnny boy!!!


26 posted on 11/13/2005 8:48:25 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Libloather
It could be a Republican this time. Doesn't matter to me.

Nor to me. All I care about is that we investigate what WE feelis important and not what Howard Dean wants us to investigate.

If a Republican Senator leaked this, let him hang.

27 posted on 11/13/2005 8:52:10 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: Huevos Rancheros

Good bet its McCrazy.


28 posted on 11/13/2005 8:56:02 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Huevos Rancheros

Good bet its McCrazy.


29 posted on 11/13/2005 8:56:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: gondramB

"...it won't be long before the media will be making comparisons with nasty regimes that we don't want mentioned in the same sentence with the U.S.A."

And why do we call "nasty regimes" nasty? Perhaps because they put people into secret prisons without benefit of trial or oversight? If that's what we do, how can we claim to be different?

"I wonder if Red Cross already knew about the prisons... I hope we have had some kind of Red Cross oversight - they are pretty good at keeping quiet and that will go a long way to allow us to claim the prisons were acceptably humanitarian."

Am I the only one who is disturbed that things that are not "acceptably humanitarian" may be going on there? When you lose the moral high ground, you have lost. Period.


30 posted on 11/13/2005 9:04:51 AM PST by thetruthmatters
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To: Real Cynic No More

How about leaky leahy?


31 posted on 11/13/2005 9:11:16 AM PST by John D
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To: John D
How about leaky leahy?

Didn't he lose his membership in the top secret, hush-hush national security committee when he was discovered to have been "Leaky Leahy"?

32 posted on 11/13/2005 9:17:13 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: Real Cynic No More

He was on the Senate Intelligence Committee, but was allowed to resign before being kicked off for leaking classified material.


33 posted on 11/13/2005 9:24:09 AM PST by John D
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To: thetruthmatters

"And why do we call "nasty regimes" nasty? Perhaps because they put people into secret prisons without benefit of trial or oversight? If that's what we do, how can we claim to be different?"

They are called nasty regimes because they sought to conquer and enslave. We would like nothing more than to get our troops back home. They seek to pillage the countries they fight and take everything - we help rebuild them and tax ourselves to do it. They set up puppet governments that must conform their master's will - we will accept whatever democratically elected government the people choose.


34 posted on 11/13/2005 9:30:09 AM PST by gondramB
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To: Libloather
Somehow I feel McNut is up to this by his neck. His constant prisoner crap leaves me slightly suspicious
35 posted on 11/13/2005 9:47:41 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Libloather

36 posted on 11/13/2005 9:49:03 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: ez

It's MUCH more important to find out who is NOW leaking CIA info in the midst of war than to REOPEN an investigation that has already been investigated at least twice!
We ALL know that both Dems and Republicans thought the same thing about intelligence about Iraq since 1998....the Dems have simply "changed their minds" after the war. What we DON"T know is why the CIA is leaking info that is affecting the War against Terror now...and that takes priority!


37 posted on 11/13/2005 9:54:08 AM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Real Cynic No More

I think i detect the stench of an Arizona RINO.


38 posted on 11/13/2005 9:59:18 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: t2buckeye
It's MUCH more important to find out who is NOW leaking CIA info in the midst of war than to REOPEN an investigation that has already been investigated at least twice!

Right, and with the power of chairmanship, we control the oversight function. The only drawback is public relations, and the Dems are already doing all they can to make us look bad. Just do the right thing, and the media will be forced to cover it.

39 posted on 11/13/2005 10:51:43 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: Libloather
Lott said that much of the information contained in Priest's story was discussed at a meeting of Republican senators and Cheney on Nov. 1, the day before the Post story was published.

Maybe a 'dim mole', is the republican he is referring too.

40 posted on 11/13/2005 11:34:42 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Libloather
California Rep. Jane Harman, the committee's top Democrat, said the committee should return to its work on the prewar intelligence on Iraq.

Know who did it, don'cha, Janey....

41 posted on 11/13/2005 11:35:42 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Bet it's the same source that supplied tha Abu Ghraib photos...


42 posted on 11/13/2005 11:36:20 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: All
Mentions in the Congressional Record (navigate to the link ...)

40 . TORTURE MUST NOT BE CONDONED BY THE U.S. <- Text of WaPo Article
15 . NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2006
23 . FOREIGN OPERATIONS, EXPORT FINANCING, AND RELATED ...
19 . VETERANS DAY 2005

Levin and Feinstein are calling for hearings into the "black sites." Senator Dayton is on about the same page, with this ...

[Congressional Record: November 10, 2005 (Senate)]
[Page S12645-S12648]

Mr. DAYTON. In response to the Post story, Republican congressional leaders sent a letter to the chairmen of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees requesting them to ``immediately initiate a joint investigation into the possible release of classified information to the media alleging that the United States Government may be detaining and interrogating terrorists at undisclosed locations abroad. As you know, if accurate, such an egregious disclosure could have long-term and far-reaching damaging and dangerous consequences, and would imperil our efforts to protect the American people and our homeland from terrorist attacks.''

Well, with all due respect, I say that the Republican leaders have the right idea but the wrong focus. There ought to be a congressional investigation, but it ought to be on the existence of those secret prisons, on who is being held there, why, for how long, and how are they being treated, whether torture is being used, and why these ``black sites'' are being hidden from Congress. I know my colleague, the distinguished Senator from Massachusetts, Mr. Kerry, has just proposed an amendment to this legislation that would require disclosure of these secret sites.

I ask unanimous consent to be added as a cosponsor of his amendment.


43 posted on 11/13/2005 11:53:00 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: thetruthmatters
Am I the only one who is disturbed that things that are not "acceptably humanitarian" may be going on there? When you lose the moral high ground, you have lost. Period.

I agree. It doesn't jibe with Bush's stated goal of ending alliances, of short term advantage, with dictatorships.

44 posted on 11/13/2005 2:32:20 PM PST by secretagent
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To: ez

this will never be looked into. this does not fit the lefts agenda. the republicans will of course do as they are told.


45 posted on 11/16/2005 1:09:11 PM PST by fantom
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