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To: durasell; DoughtyOne
You're arguing the wrong point. The real issue -- the one that will have consequence -- is what it looks like to the rest of the world, including the scientific and business communities, if a state adopts ID.

It will look ridiculous; that goes without saying. BTW, the laws of thermodynamics were stated in their earliest form just 140 years ago. Relativity came along 90 years ago. Quantum mechanics came along 80 years ago. These have all been sustained a shorter time than has evolution.

The real issue though is how adopting ID will undermine the scientific and technological progress of America.

46 posted on 11/13/2005 4:37:22 PM PST by AntiGuv ()
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To: AntiGuv

Belief in intelligent design destroys only one belief system, that of those who have accepted on faith the origin of man from a single celled organism.

If you wish to examine evolution in it's observable state, I don't have a problem with it. I don't even mind the study of what seems to some to be implied. I do draw the line at teaching things that have not been proven, to be irrefutable fact.


52 posted on 11/13/2005 4:42:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: AntiGuv

The real issue though is how adopting ID will undermine the scientific and technological progress of America.


It won't because there are whole boat loads of immigrants eager to make their mark. They'll do this by educating themselves in joints like MIT and Caltech and working for U.S. companies.

Meanwhile, companies and foundations that hand out grant money will largely ignore or scuff at the communities that adopt ID, fearful that if they so much as sent them a single microscope, the community would treat it like the apes treated bones in the beginning of 2001 film.


60 posted on 11/13/2005 4:47:41 PM PST by durasell
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To: AntiGuv
On the contrary, if ID is the correct view, it has potential to change some of the fundamental underpinnings supporting scientific thought and understanding. We may be able to accomplish far more than we dreamed when were hampered by evolutionary dogma.

BTW don't buy the "sustained theory" line. Beginning with a premise P, interpreting all data to support it, and discarding data unfavorable to P does not constitute a "sustained theory". Evolution is unique from the other theories you mentioned in that we lack the ability to hit the rewind button on time and test its postulates using the scientific method.

304 posted on 11/13/2005 9:41:27 PM PST by Lexinom
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