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Attorney Offers Document On Oklahoma City Bombing
http://www.kotv.com ^ | 11/13/05 | AP

Posted on 11/13/2005 4:24:39 PM PST by cope85

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) _ Attorney Jesse Trentadue, pursuing the 1995 death of his brother in an Oklahoma prison, has disclosed a document concerning an informant at a white supremacist camp telling federal authorities of a threat to blow up federal buildings before the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

Trentadue said he also discovered an FBI report on a 1997 interview with a Houston man who portrayed himself as a white supremacist and said he had spoken with bomber Timothy McVeigh a few days before the deadly attack on the Murrah Building. In that interview, the man discussed how the truck carrying the explosives was parked too far away to inflict the maximum damage possible.

The documents were filed in U.S. District Court by Trentadue as part of his effort to obtain records on the bombing, which he believes hold clues to the death of his brother in a federal prison. The lawyer, who did not disclose where he got the material he introduced, contends that the FBI is violating the Freedom of Information Act by refusing to provide the requested documents.

Kenneth Trentadue, 44, was found dead on Aug. 21, 1995, in his cell in a federal prison in Oklahoma, where he was being held on an alleged parole violation. The death was ruled a suicide, but family members believe he was killed during an interrogation by authorities who mistakenly believed he had been involved in the bombing a few months before.

Jesse Trentadue and Assistant U.S. Attorney Carlie Christensen argued before U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball on Thursday over whether the FBI should be required to release requested documents.

Trentadue contends the government is wrongly claiming that the documents either can't be found or contain confidential information that exempt them from disclosure.

He said the FBI wants to conceal its mishandling of the investigation into activities at the white supremacist camp and its failure to stop the Oklahoma City bombing.

Christensen argued that the FBI did its best to reasonably respond to Trentadue's documents request, but releasing the names of FBI agents, informants and people of interest connected to the bombing could put the lives of many people in danger.

Christensen said that danger far outweighs any public interest in the release of their names.

Trentadue said what the FBI is really afraid of is putting their informants and agents at risk of criminal and civil liability from the government and the families of victims in failing to act to prevent the bombing.

Kimball took the matter under consideration and will issue a decision later.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bombing; carolhowe; ci; coverup; elohimcity; fbi; jessetrentadue; kennethtrentadue; murrahbldg; okcbombing; oklahoma; trentadue

1 posted on 11/13/2005 4:24:41 PM PST by cope85
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To: truthaboveall

Paging Jayna.


2 posted on 11/13/2005 4:25:57 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: doug from upland; holdonnow

ping


3 posted on 11/13/2005 4:26:15 PM PST by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick Brigade, Go Steele)
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To: PhiKapMom

Ping to the ongoing OKC saga.


4 posted on 11/13/2005 4:27:11 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: LibertyRocks

ping


5 posted on 11/13/2005 4:32:04 PM PST by maggief
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To: cope85

Jesse Trentadue has been doing the radio talk show circuit lately and he tells a compelling story. According to him, his brother's body was pretty well beat up and suffered multiple stun-gun burns at autopsy. The authorities claim he committed suicide in custody. Trentadue also noted that his primary concern was the truth about his brother. Any other information regarding the Oklahoma bombing in general was only ancillary to that aim.


6 posted on 11/13/2005 4:32:31 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: All
The lawyer, who did not disclose where he got the material he introduced. . . .

The AP employee might get a clue if he read "Former officials dispute claims FBI investigated Strassmeir or Elohim City connections," McCurtain Daily Gazette. By J.D. Cash and Lt. Col. Roger Charles, (U.S.M.C. retired)

8 posted on 11/13/2005 4:44:50 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: cope85
[Trentadue made the fatal mistake of bragging about a 'tell-all' book he was planning to write about his knowledge of the arcane relationship between the federal government and these terrorist cells. Trentadue was looking for a book deal and bragging about the millions of dollars he figured to make by telling his story. I believe he was found dead within 24 hours after making that rash boast. ]
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3930c7091023.htm

9 posted on 11/13/2005 4:47:21 PM PST by VxH
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To: cope85
[Shortly after the bombing, Michael Loudenslager was actively helping in the rescue and recovery effort. A large number of those at the bomb-site either saw or talked with him. During the course of the early rescue efforts, however, Mike Loudenslager was seen and heard in a very "heated" confrontation with someone (there). ]
...
[To the absolute astonishment of a large number of police officers and rescue workers, it was later reported that G.S.A. employee Mike Loudenslager's body had been found inside the Murrah Building the following Sunday, still at his desk, a victim of the 9:02 A.M. bombing! This, mind you, after he'd already been seen alive and well by numerous rescue workers at the bomb-site after the bombing! He is also officially listed as one of the 168 bombing fatalities.]
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a384db6fc5a85.htm
 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Michael+Loudenslager
 
Wow.  Definately one for the Whiskey Tango Foxtrot file.

11 posted on 11/13/2005 5:40:13 PM PST by VxH
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To: cope85

12 posted on 11/13/2005 7:11:51 PM PST by FReepaholic (I don't look good naked anymore.)
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To: VxH
I don't have enough tinfoil to contemplate this one. This begs the obvious question; who in the gub'mint doesn't want the truth on OKC to come out? And why not?

Someday we'll find out. After the guilty parties are retired and on the lecture and book signing circuit.

13 posted on 11/13/2005 7:20:11 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: ovrtaxt

Ping


14 posted on 11/13/2005 9:20:18 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: Sender
who in the gub'mint doesn't want the truth on OKC to come out?

There's no who, just the.

15 posted on 11/13/2005 9:28:48 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: VxH

Can this statement about writing a tell-all book be documented, other than a post on Free Republic?


16 posted on 11/15/2005 12:17:28 PM PST by Nancie Drew
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To: Sender

"who in the gub'mint doesn't want the truth on OKC to come out?"

The Clintons


17 posted on 11/15/2005 12:23:31 PM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: cope85
Christensen argued that the FBI did its best to reasonably respond to Trentadue's documents request, but releasing the names of FBI agents, informants and people of interest connected to the bombing could put the lives of many people in danger.

How the hell could that be? McVeigh acted alone and they only caught him because he was too stupid to put a license plate on his land yacht.

18 posted on 11/15/2005 12:40:33 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Polyxene

But the Clintons are semi-retired now. Do they have such power that no one in the current admin is willing to look at OKC again?


19 posted on 11/15/2005 5:58:04 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Sender

Before reading your remark, I was just going to say that I'm sure the Clintons "cleaned up" all the bloody hands that were involved in the OkC Bombing. The entire event has always stunk to high heaven, but everything the Clintons touched did also.

Unless some CIA "friendlies" to the Bush administration with knowledge and EVIDENCE of this tragedy cover-up comes forward, I'm afraid the truth will be forever destined to the blogosphere.


20 posted on 11/15/2005 6:04:49 PM PST by demkicker
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To: Nancie Drew
DOH!
 
Ya know, the way the original poster, banned freeper "Uncle Bill", formatted the message, it's hard to distinguish between the article contents he's quoting and his and other's comments - which he also quotes.  
 
I thought he was quoting from this article - Cover-Up In Cell 709A (which was deleted from FR but still exists in the wayback machine if you click on the link).
 
After diging into Cover-Up In Cell 709A, it's clear that Uncle Bill was actually quoting a reply by someone posting on FR as:
 
bcspecht at westol dot com
From: B.C. Specht () *
01/16/98 15:53:39 PST
 
Ms. Specht attributed her recollections to "J.D. Cash, reporter for the McCurtain Daily Gazette in Idabel, OK".
 
Mystery Solved after an evening spent googling Mr. Cash:
 
Plaintiff [Jesse Trentadue] received a message from McVeigh stating that McVeigh believed Plaintiff's brother was killed because of FBI Defendants' mistaken belief that Kenneth Michael Trentadue was actually Richard Lee Gurthrie.
 
So there it is - Ms. Specht  (and the FBI) probably confused Kenneth Trentadue with Richard Lee Guthrie Jr., one of the leaders of the Midwestern Bank Bandits,[who] was planning to write a book about his crime spree, according to a letter he sent The Dispatch six weeks before his 1996 death.
 
I found nothing to corroborate the speculation that Kenneth Trentadue ever mentioned that he was writing a book or had a relationship with the OKC bombers.  
 
I must apologize to Mr. Trentadue, his kin, and my fellow Freepers for repeating this speculation in my previous post.
 

21 posted on 11/15/2005 10:36:22 PM PST by VxH
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To: VxH

Thank you for spending the time to figure it out. I live in Oklahoma City and had followed the story from day one and had not heard that before. I had tried to find out before I asked you and couldn't dig it out like you did. Good job!


22 posted on 11/16/2005 8:31:21 AM PST by Nancie Drew
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To: Sender

Does the name "Sandy Berger" ring a bell?


23 posted on 11/16/2005 8:48:33 AM PST by Ignatz (I misunderstood you correctly the first time.)
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To: MileHi

You honestly believe that? I failed to see your sarcasm if it indeed was that.


24 posted on 11/16/2005 8:54:59 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: eastforker
That's the official gummint story, ain't it?

No, I don't buy it

25 posted on 11/16/2005 9:15:39 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: cope85

For anyone who's interested, I've posted all 50+ pages of the actual FBI documents referenced in this story here:

http://intelwire.egoplex.com/trentadueindex.html

JMB


26 posted on 11/18/2005 5:57:06 AM PST by JohnBerger
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To: JohnBerger

I have a suggestion when you write articles - please put the date on the article.


27 posted on 11/18/2005 11:11:10 AM PST by Nancie Drew
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To: Nancie Drew

Sorry about that. It's fixed. I'm in the middle of a massive site redesign, so a couple of special interest pages are missing dates, but I believe most of them do have them.


28 posted on 11/18/2005 12:09:27 PM PST by JohnBerger
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To: PhiKapMom

Did you see this and is it gaining much attention in your area?


29 posted on 11/19/2005 6:38:46 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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