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Mark Steyn: Bicultural Europe is doomed
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 11/15/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/14/2005 2:13:32 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: untrained skeptic

Maybe we could get all the "Blue Staters" to actually live up to their promise and leave. Then they could have their heaven of a Socialist Paradise and leave the rest of us to keep the US viable and strong.

Of course that would only delay the problem for the Euro's for a about 20 years or so.


101 posted on 11/15/2005 6:14:14 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: NZerFromHK
Watch out! According to some people on this site, Franco is a "good guy"!

Count me among them. Franco was a hero of Western Civilization. Perhaps you have no problem with the commies raping nuns, killing priests, committing mass murder, establishing a presence in Western Europe, and cutting off the Mediterranean Sea,- but I do. The only way to rid Spain of the Reds was to beat them back in bloody street to street fighting. If the wolf was at your door you would beg for Franco to save you.

102 posted on 11/15/2005 6:28:15 AM PST by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: Plutarch

Wow-please see my post 102. Great minds think alike. I didn't see your post until after I posted.


103 posted on 11/15/2005 6:31:37 AM PST by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: Pokey78

Steyn is so freaking brilliant!


104 posted on 11/15/2005 6:46:37 AM PST by Joan912 ("a lot of weather we're having lately, isn't it?" - oliver hardy)
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To: MattinNJ; Plutarch

Thank you for your posts. Franco's mission was to keep Spain Catholic and not allow the "enlightened" liberal/socialist/communist/atheists to get ahold of his country. The Left has never forgiven him and continues to spread lies about him...


105 posted on 11/15/2005 7:01:28 AM PST by Joan912 ("a lot of weather we're having lately, isn't it?" - oliver hardy)
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To: Joan912

There were a lot of very entertaining, high spirited debates about Franco on a series of threads about 2 years ago. You may want to do a search for them-they left a lot of bruises.


106 posted on 11/15/2005 7:20:37 AM PST by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: kidd
If you can name two people who wrote poetry about seagulls

If your favorite music includes: wine, women with large breasts, cheese, sunshine, stars, boredom, and existentialism, all in the same song, you might be a Frenchman.

107 posted on 11/15/2005 7:26:32 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (I'm proud to be an EX-episcopalian.)
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To: livius
I figure the reason the French insist on calling these muzzies "youths" and are so hesitant to stop them is because like the American left, in 1968 THEY were the rioters, and it was the defining moment of their lives, and they harbor way too much empathy for the kids doing the looting and burning.

They don't understand that it's a completely different ballgame. These kids don't want jobs, they don't want assimilation into the corrupt French society, they want to rape, pillage, burn, and murder, and they want to cut off French heads as trophies.

I will grant that French arrogance, snobbery, and racism created a situation in which these people were easy prey for Islamic Supremacism (which I call Islamism for short), but that's a done deal, a fait accompl/i>, if you will, and the only thing left for the French is to fight, adapt, or die.

p.s. I think I'm one of the few that uses Islamism as a short version of Islamic Supremacism, since most people prefer Islamofascism. I don't think it's so much a political movement as a racist movement and it reminds me of good old fashioned White Supremacism more than anything else.

108 posted on 11/15/2005 7:36:26 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Islamism = Islamic Supremacism & = racist ideology, not political.)
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings

Ping


109 posted on 11/15/2005 11:40:41 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Pokey78
As Jean-Claude Dassier, director-general of the French news station LCI, told a broadcasters' conference in Amsterdam, he has been playing down the riots on the following grounds: "Politics in France is heading to the Right and I don't want Right-wing politicians back in second or even first place because we showed burning cars on television."

I suspect that the longer the move is delayed, the farther to right the actual move will be.

110 posted on 11/15/2005 2:58:12 PM PST by NMR Guy
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To: Great Caesars Ghost
because like the American left, in 1968 THEY were the rioters, and it was the defining moment of their lives,

That's very true. Of course, in 1968, it was privileged youth rioting just for the heck of it, because they wanted to smoke more dope, not go to school or not have to pay for it if they did, and not serve in their country's army. It was a sort of nihilistic but non-specific type of rioting where they wanted to raise a little hell but didn't really have a concrete objective. Of course, there were more radical leftists who did have a plan, but most of the 1968 crowd was just in it for the thrills. And it was, as you say, the high-point of their lives, and they think that the Muslim rioters are just the same, out there having some fun.

Thinking that these Islamists are don't have an objective, however, is just plain foolish. Maybe not every single rioter spends time listening to the preachings of some mad mullah, but the ravings of their "religious leaders" are in the ether, so to speak, and the rioters are being motivated by them whether they are conscious of it or not. And we all know what the objective of the mad mullahs is...

111 posted on 11/15/2005 3:25:08 PM PST by livius
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To: Pokey78

Thanks Pokey. Missed this Steyn from earlier in the week.


112 posted on 11/18/2005 12:28:29 PM PST by Rummyfan
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