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Bush Escalates Bitter Iraq War Debate
AP ^ | November 14, 2005 | TERENCE HUNT

Posted on 11/14/2005 6:19:09 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

President Bush escalated the bitter debate over the Iraq war on Monday, hurling back at Democratic critics the worries they once expressed that Saddam Hussein was a grave threat to the world.

"They spoke the truth then and they're speaking politics now," Bush charged.

Bush went on the attack after Democrats accused the president of manipulating and withholding some pre-war intelligence and misleading Americans about the rationale for war.

"Some Democrats who voted to authorize the use of force are now rewriting the past," Bush said. "They're playing politics with this issue and they are sending mixed signals to our troops and the enemy. That is irresponsible."

The president spoke to cheering troops at this military base at a refueling stop for Air Force One on the first leg of an eight-day journey to Japan, South Korea, China and Mongolia.

During the stopover, he also met privately with families of four slain service members.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agitprop; antivictory; asiavisit; bush; bushhassers; democrats; iraq; iraqwar; mediabias; propaganda; terrorism; unamerican
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1 posted on 11/14/2005 6:19:10 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

AP=Dirty rotten filth bags.


2 posted on 11/14/2005 6:20:09 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: West Coast Conservative

ESCALATES!!!! The dimocRATS have been on the attack and are escalating on a daily basis. GWB speaks out and he is the one escalating. Give me a break.


3 posted on 11/14/2005 6:21:27 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: West Coast Conservative

How many of those self-same hypocrites in the senate ever meet with the families "out of the newslight"? They desecrate the sacrifice of our worthy soldiers by their very lies! Why don't they go pick up a gun and stand a line instead of spouting political crap that we're sick to death of hearing!


4 posted on 11/14/2005 6:21:41 PM PST by princess leah
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To: Parley Baer

No bias there!

/sarcasm


5 posted on 11/14/2005 6:22:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The left is calling Bush a liar,claims he is responsible for the deaths of 2000+ soldiers and Bush mislead 300 million Americans , and Bush is "escalating" this?


6 posted on 11/14/2005 6:23:06 PM PST by KCRW
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To: West Coast Conservative
Simply amazing how the AP can put out such absolute crap as this and still be taken seriously as a source of "news" by some "Conservatives". What is it going to take for Conservatives to wake up to the fact the Dinosaur Media is the enemy of your blood?
7 posted on 11/14/2005 6:23:29 PM PST by MNJohnnie (100% of Islamic Terrorists disapprove of the job President Bush is doing)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Escalates" must be AP-speak for

"Rats realize all hell just broke loose and Satan likes ridin' donkeys the hard way."


8 posted on 11/14/2005 6:23:31 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Let O'Connor Go Home! Hasn't She Suffered Enough? Hasn't The CONSTITUTION Suffered Enough?)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Oh...so Bush finally responds to the bombast of the anti-American Left and the AP droids call it "escalating," eh? How typical.

Bias? What bias? *snerk*

9 posted on 11/14/2005 6:23:53 PM PST by Prime Choice (Never excuse treason as "dissent.")
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To: Parley Baer

I was just gonna post the same thing....I hate the rats and the MSM...


10 posted on 11/14/2005 6:24:03 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife.....toughest job in the military)
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To: West Coast Conservative
How divisive!
11 posted on 11/14/2005 6:24:05 PM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: West Coast Conservative

AP = Assinine Prestitutes


12 posted on 11/14/2005 6:25:08 PM PST by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: West Coast Conservative

I can't wait to see photos of his stop at Elmendorf.

He is finally beginning to do what is needed most from him, standing by the troops and motivating them, as well as telling the truth to the world of what the Coalition has achieved in the WOT.

The only speech he needs to give is "WE ARE WINNING," listing all the accomplishments of our U.S. Armed Forces/Coalition in the ME these past 2-1/2 years, up to current daring deeds as well as humanitarian work, all the stuff that is being blacked out by anti-American leftmedia. Also, emphasize that the entire Coalition believes the cause is just and noble.

Mr. President, speak of victory in the present tense, not only in future tense. "WE ARE WINNING."


13 posted on 11/14/2005 6:25:52 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Request or send care packages for/to troops at www.opgratitude.com)
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To: West Coast Conservative
President Bush escalated the bitter debate over the Iraq war on Monday, hurling back at Democratic critics the worries they once expressed that Saddam Hussein was a grave threat to the world.

I HATE THIS. Defending yourself is not escalating the conflict. COME TO THINK OF IT, THIS IS HOW THE MSM SEES OUR ENTIRE WOT. As escalation, rather than defense.

I can not say, in front of my children or God, how angry this makes me.

14 posted on 11/14/2005 6:26:17 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Parley Baer

The Democrats and the MSM have been on the attack since the first day Bush went into office and they have never let up. To hell with them and all who think like they do.


15 posted on 11/14/2005 6:29:21 PM PST by gunnedah
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To: West Coast Conservative

ONLY 43% of AMERICANS THINK LEADERS WERE LYING,
MORE AGREE THAT IT WAS BAD INTELLIGENCE

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CIA_LEAK_POLL?SITE=VANOV&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2005-11-09-07-17-47
"The concerns about Libby's case come at a time that a growing number of people, 43 percent, now say U.S. and British leaders were mostly lying when they claimed before the Iraq war that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, while an equal number said they were misinformed by bad intelligence.

That's up from 31 percent who felt in February 2004 that the leaders were lying, while 49 percent said they got bad intelligence.

Two-thirds of Democrats say U.S. and British political leaders were lying about weapons of mass destruction and half of independents feel that way. Only one in 10 Republicans said that was the case.

The telephone poll of 1,201 adults was taken Nov. 3-6 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points."


16 posted on 11/14/2005 6:29:49 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: West Coast Conservative
President Bush escalated the bitter debate over the Iraq war on Monday, hurling back at Democratic critics the worries they once expressed that Saddam Hussein was a grave threat to the world.

"They spoke the truth then and they're speaking politics now," Bush charged.

Translation from "Newspeak:"

President Bush decided that he's no longer going to allow lies to be told about the actions of his administration without confronting them. This is much like when the conservatives used "hate speech" when they disagree with the views of liberals, and make suggestions of policies of their own.

Mark

17 posted on 11/14/2005 6:29:49 PM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

ESCALATES? I want to give AP an escalated fat lip. Allegorically speaking, of course.


18 posted on 11/14/2005 6:30:28 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This is what he has needed to do for a long time. The RNC needs to spend some money running public information commercials on the successes in Iraq but they probably won't do that. They need to hammer the Democrats with their own words. I'd love to see some commercials with the words of Durbin and Kennedy and the other turncoats laid bare. We don't need to wait till 2006 to start tearing down the Democratic Party to its foundation. We need to hammer them like they have been hammering the President, we need to show them as the traitors they are and judge our success by how loudly they cry and whine. They are not fellow Americans, they gave up that later when they put their political goals ahead of their country and our soldiers. They need to be shamed like they have never been before.


19 posted on 11/14/2005 6:30:39 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Politicians never forget when a dollar is left to be spent.)
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To: princess leah

Because they are scared to death of guns and they have ZERO will to defend themselves, their families, or their Country, that's why.


20 posted on 11/14/2005 6:31:16 PM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: Parley Baer

And now that Bush has escalated, the debate is bitter.


21 posted on 11/14/2005 6:32:26 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: West Coast Conservative

The rhetoric cannot possibly be escalated to a higher level after Liberals claimed GWB misled and lied us into war.


22 posted on 11/14/2005 6:32:59 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: Parley Baer

You stole my words!

Pres B is silent and he is "hiding"

Pres B speaks out and he is "escalating"

This makes my stomach sour, how low will they go?


23 posted on 11/14/2005 6:35:21 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Rosemont

Hofstra (?) House intel has made a wonder strong statement on reps who say they did not have the same intel. He says they have access to everything (people, agencies) and did not do their due diligence if they say that. They let down their constituents.


24 posted on 11/14/2005 6:37:58 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
I normally avoid "me too" posts but this one calls for it. The use of the word "escalates" by the headline writer is simply over the line.

The left, and here AP is clearly showing a bias in that direction, has for years attempted to establish a political continuum in which "dialogue" involves them making accusations and their opponents restricted first to defending against them and then to admitting their truth. This is the sort of dialogue popular among Soviet re-education camps, which is pretty much what the modern media have attempted to mimic and came very close to establishing. They decide, they report, you agree.

AP, Reuters, the NY Times, the Christian Science Monitor, AFP, the BBC...the list is a long and depressing one. Those on it are perfectly aware of what they're about and have been so unopposed for so long that they've grown arrogant and clumsy and shrink in horror from the first Rush or Fox who comes along.

Every single story I've read in any of the aforementioned on the topic of Bush's speech treats the matter as if he were doing something seedy and unfair by quoting the words of his critics back at them. I think Mencken was wrong - at some point you do go broke underestimating the intelligence of the public.

25 posted on 11/14/2005 6:38:46 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: West Coast Conservative

Amazing. The libs are in true form. Anytime anyone calls them what they are, anti-American, anti-military treasonist anal orifices, they cry foul.

It is about time Bush stood up and defended this country's polition against the communists that are trying to tear it down. WAAAAYYY overdue. Too little, too late really.


26 posted on 11/14/2005 6:39:23 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: West Coast Conservative

AP and it's demo operatives provide more aid and comfort to international terrorists.


27 posted on 11/14/2005 6:39:49 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This must be working, because all of the sudden the democrats are trotting out Lieberman to bemoan the "excessive partisanship" of the debate and to call for bipartisan cooperation on the war.

And the democrats in the senate have proposed a "sense of the Senate" resolution to make it look like they are in front of what is already happening without them, the success in Iraq with the likely drawdown of troops next year.


28 posted on 11/14/2005 6:44:49 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

And Republicans are still in hiding.

Its sinful that President Bush should have to defend himself. That his own party doesnt have the balls to do it for him. Where is Dr. Frist still looking at the stem cell crystal ball?


29 posted on 11/14/2005 6:49:52 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: West Coast Conservative

It's about time he escalated this war of words, and fought back against these treasonous pigs.


30 posted on 11/14/2005 6:50:48 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: West Coast Conservative

I don't think the AP is even trying anymore


31 posted on 11/14/2005 6:51:47 PM PST by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: West Coast Conservative

Bush defends himself from LIARS..........is more like it. Escalates -- no way.


32 posted on 11/14/2005 6:52:04 PM PST by tioga
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To: West Coast Conservative
BUSH escalates??? WTF!

This is, like, my 5th dose of associated Puke today. I don't know how much more I can stand without hurling...

P
33 posted on 11/14/2005 6:53:36 PM PST by papasmurf (Support Delay, support Libby, donate today.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

"Rats realize all hell just broke loose ..."


I think that about sums it up .. how dare that cowboy expose us for the liars we are.


34 posted on 11/14/2005 6:54:07 PM PST by The Final Harvest ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: sgtbono2002

You got my vote on that!


35 posted on 11/14/2005 6:54:14 PM PST by papasmurf (Support Delay, support Libby, donate today.)
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To: Brilliant

We ALWAYS let the Dems get away with rewriting history.

It is TIME we stop letting them get away with it.

There is no need to get down and dirty (which is really what held us back to now; Republicans distaste for non-factual distortion of the facts.) We just need to keep hammering back with the real facts.


36 posted on 11/14/2005 6:56:13 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Interesting. I wondered where Lieberman went.

If he is being allowed out in public, there must be signs that this is not working for the dems.
37 posted on 11/14/2005 6:57:53 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: West Coast Conservative

LOL, now that Bush is finally fighting back, it's a "bitter debate".
Terence Hunt and the AP are such scumbags.


38 posted on 11/14/2005 6:57:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: mystery-ak
I hate the rats and the MSM...

See tagline

39 posted on 11/14/2005 6:58:55 PM PST by rllngrk33 (The RATs and Media are the enemy.)
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To: paul51

Absolutely. The damned press is as much an enemy of the US as Al-Qaeda. I hate them.


40 posted on 11/14/2005 6:59:06 PM PST by speedy
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To: JustDoItAlways

Unfortunately, the GOP rank and file has been no better at fighting back against the Dems than the President has. Even now, we are just sitting here and watching the President fire back at them, and there are thousands of them and only one of him, and they have the media on their side.

For some reason, GOPers think that all they've got to do is post a story about something that the Dems have said, and that will be enough in itself to turn people against them. But it isn't working. If anything, it's helping to convince people that the Dems are right. If you repeat a lie enough, people believe it. Why we help the Dems repeat their lies, I don't know.


41 posted on 11/14/2005 7:00:28 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: West Coast Conservative

Since we've only heard crickets for 2.5 years from the White House, anything from Bush on this subject could be considered and "escalation."


42 posted on 11/14/2005 7:01:01 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

After unending months of silence, he finally has ANYTHING to say, and now he's responsible for our national rancor. Great writing, AP.


43 posted on 11/14/2005 7:01:25 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Parley Baer

I think we've all seen this before.

Haven't you ever been in a chat room or a class where someone constantly attacks something politically? They'll do it everyday. Finally, you give a different point of view, and the moderator/teacher gets upset that you're causing a disturbance.

This is just another aspect of "Free speech for me, but not for thee."


44 posted on 11/14/2005 7:01:31 PM PST by Andy00
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To: Parley Baer

earlier today Myles O'Lyin of CNN had rat shill Ron Brown-noser-stein of the LA Slimes on...the topic of conversation was the President fighting back- they played a clip from Friday and Myles O'Lyin asks, "is this rhetoric helpful??"

When the rats spew it the criminal MSM refer to it as "patriotic dissent\debate" yet one someone defends themselves from the GOP it is an "escalation of rhetoric"....


45 posted on 11/14/2005 7:07:07 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: speedy

Headline tomorrow: (From undisclosed source) Hang in there terrorist. We will cut and run soon.


46 posted on 11/14/2005 7:09:09 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: JustDoItAlways

TREASON

47 posted on 11/14/2005 7:14:01 PM PST by Colonial Warrior (You can't tell how good a man or a watermelon is 'til they get thumped. Character shows when tested)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Pour on the pressure W, and never let up.


48 posted on 11/14/2005 7:14:56 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Yeah....the AP...getting its stories prewritten and all wrapped up in a pretty yellow ribbon ( in this case...liberal yellow...the favored color of cowards }, done up with plenty of Bush hate and liberal selfishness, and presented with dripping glee via Fenton Communications...that motley group of liberals who choose and edit and bias each and every event with their dripping socialist slant. Offering their gooey crap to the AP and Reuters reporters, as well as other print media jocks.

Why, Fenton even offers a chat room just for reporters....offers to write up the stories...heck...does it all! Don't think there is a REAL REPORTER in the entire AP. Period.

I LOVE THAT PRESIDENT BUSH IS A MAN OF HIS WORD....A MAN WHO OWNS DIGNITY and COURAGE and a man who UNDERSTANDS right from wrong and will NEVER ALLOW the sick freaks in the press, in the pundit slots and in the loud mouthed dark alleys of democrat politicians to CONTROL what he does. HE IS NOBODY's FOOL and EVERYBODY's ROCK. Even though, with skill and grace, President Bush has a way of making the whining, whimpering, silly and oh so cruel jack arses that scream...' Bush lied' look very foolish.

Our President handed john kerry his cowardly, anti-American award with great grace on veteran's day, cheering the hearts of our beloved vets and letting small men like john kerry and ted kennedy know that the TRUTH WILL ALWAYS WIN IN THE END.

History will NOT be rewritten, liberal style, on our President's watch.

I am SO GLAD THAT PRESIDENT BUSH HAS OUR COUNTRY'S BACK!

Liberals are content when there is no war (unless it is one they start), to hell with genocide and pain in other countries.

Liberals believe that if they spread the mantra that we are in this war under false pretenses...they will win back their power.

They are wrong.

This time...their hypocrisy has gone to far.

This war was ALWAYS Saddam's choice...even up until the warning our President gave 24 hours before we began our move into that cesspool of murder and terrorism.

Saddam chose to ignore UN orders, was given SEVENTEEN CHANCES to comply (after all....he was LUCKY, he INVADED Kuwait, we could have blown that freak to bits back then).

Thank GOD our President has helped the UN to mean something....a task not easy to do.

BTW----has Mark Rich been INDICTED in the oil for food scandal, yet?

49 posted on 11/14/2005 7:15:42 PM PST by Republic (Michael Schiavo LIED about having a college degree on his guardianship application,)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Bush at last meekly defends himself after two years of silence on vicious, non-stop assaults on his character and integrity and he is the one "escalating" it?

Gimme a break!

50 posted on 11/14/2005 7:20:45 PM PST by Gritty ("Iran may be the 2nd Muslim nuclear power. As things stand, France is on course to be 3rd-Mark Steyn)
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