Doing Unto Others as They Did Unto Us

The New York Times ^ | Nov. 14, 2005 | Greg Bloche and Jonathan Marks

[MurryMom]

Washington — How did American interrogation tactics after 9/11 come to include abuse rising to the level of torture? Much has been said about the illegality of these tactics, but the strategic error that led to their adoption has been overlooked.

The Pentagon effectively signed off on a strategy that mimics Red Army methods. But those tactics were not only inhumane, they were ineffective. For Communist interrogators, truth was beside the point: their aim was to force compliance to the point of false confession.

[MurryMom]

Just another example of the Bush Administration having no respect for the truth.

[bboop]

If we play by all the rules and they don't, it is like the patriots and the red-coats, is it not?

[MNJohnnie]

Always amazing how supposed "Conservatives" are so eager to repeat every lie spewed out by the Dinosaur Media. Funny how they are always so hysterically worried about the terrorists but never can every express even the slightest concern for the Terrorists victims. Funny how eager some "Conservatives" are to spread propaganda for people who rape, torture and murder captives.

[tiredoflaundry]

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[mewzilla]

Just another example of the Bush Administration having no respect for the truth.

Based on something written in the NYT?!

Snort.

[68skylark]

"Torture" is reading the NY Times every day.

[MNJohnnie]

Yeah, these two really have the qualification to tell us anything about National Security. Here are the bios for the latest set of NY Times Hate Bush Always Editorial columnists.

Maxwell Gregg Bloche

Professor of Law; Co-Director, Georgetown-Johns Hopkins Joint Program in Law and Public Health

B.A., Columbia; J.D., M.D., Yale

Expertise: health care financing law & policy, biomedical ethics, regulatory & contractual approaches to health risk.

Contact this faculty member (new window will open) Dr. Bloche teaches and writes on U.S. and international health law and policy. His work has appeared in medical and health policy journals, law reviews, books, newspapers, and on-line media. Dr. Bloche received a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation Investigator Award in Health Policy Research for 1997-2000 to support his research and writing on the legal and regulatory governance of managed care organizations, and he edited and contributed to The Privatization of Health Care Reform: Legal and Regulatory Perspectives (Oxford Univ. Press, 2003). Other recent publications include The Invention of Health Law (California Law Review, March 2003), Trust and Betrayal in the Medical Marketplace (Stanford Law Review, Dec. 2002), and WTO Deference to National Health Policy: Toward an Interpretive Principle (Journal of Int’l Economic Law, Dec. 2002). Dr. Bloche is a member of the Institute of Medicine’s Committee on Understanding and Eliminating Racial and Ethnic Disparities in Health Care and the Committee on Scientific Freedom and Responsibility of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. He also serves on the advisory boards of several journals and non-profit organizations. Dr. Bloche has been a member of the board of Physicians for Human Rights and a consultant to South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission (on human rights in the health sector), the Federal Judicial Center, the National Institutes of Health, the World Health Organization, and other private and public bodies.

Dr. Bloche received his M.D. and J.D. from Yale University and his B.A. from Columbia University. Before joining Georgetown’s faculty in 1989, he completed his residency in psychiatry at the Columbia-Presbyterian Medical Center. He received several awards for research and scholarship as a resident physician and law student, and he was an editor of the Yale Law Journal. Between college and medical school, Dr. Bloche spent a year as a reporter for the Dallas Times Herald. More recently, he has contributed commentaries to the Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, other newspapers, and National Public Radio’s Morning Edition.

[Thombo2]

What's your point MM?I have to register to read the rest of the article?From what i can read,it sounds like another bull@hit piece from the NYTimes.

[justshutupandtakeit]

I have never seen any indication that you know anything of the truth. Using the New York Times to search for the truth is comparable to trying to drink your way to it.

This mendacious rag is a laughingstock as exemplified by the lies it spreads about our military. It is particularly hilarious to find it condemning the Communists for their actions in the past. When they were happening it could not wait to attack those patriots trying to undercover the Communists infiltrating the institutions of our nation.

Was one word of the domination of the New York City teachers' union by the Communist Party ever printed? Do the editors think we have forgotten the numerous articles they printed warning of the dangers of Saddam when the Bufoon was in office? Do they think they can get away with their rewriting of history by claiming that Bush, by starting what had been said by hundreds of DemocRATs during the nineties, lied? In the past they could have gotten away with it but as long as patriots have FR they cannot.

[MNJohnnie]

And here is the bio on the other Terrorist propagandist writing in the NY Lies

Jonathan Marks

Department of Sociology and Anthropology

UNC-Charlotte

Research areas:

Primate / Human evolution, race, molecular genetics and evolution, general physical anthropology, history of studies of human evolution and variation, anthropology of science, critical studies in human genetics, general anthropology

[satchmodog9]

I think you forgot something in your post.

[NittanyLion]

Haven't seen you in a while. I guess your "big wins" in Virginia and New Jersey (i.e. holding onto Democrat governships) have emboldened you.

Isn't that nice.

[An.American.Expatriate]

Just another example of the New York Times having no respect for the truth.

[CommieCutter]

Exactly. Don't set the rules for us when they don't abide them.

[tiredoflaundry]

Nope, just a placemark.

[cardinal4]

How is it your are still here? You purposely post crap like this to provoke people. The NYT has zero credibility, yet you use it to call Bush a liar. Typical liberal..

[ErnBatavia]

Why don't you stick to posting your racist comments over on the Pennsylvania abduction threads? You're obviously in over your head when it comes to politics.

[MikefromOhio]

imagine this....Murrytroll also parrots the MSM.

Amazingly enough, I'm NOT surprised.

[Paloma_55]

How did American interrogation tactics after 9/11 come to include abuse rising to the level of torture?

Is this a news article or an editorial?

I ask because the first line is clearly an opinion, and most likely, based upon a false understanding of the term "torture".

[Paloma_55]

Ever hear of DU infiltrators who post on FR?