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BRAZILIAN INFLUX
NJ.com The Star Ledger ^ | 11/14/2005 | BRIAN DONOHUE

Posted on 11/15/2005 7:51:33 AM PST by KeyesPlease

Every Sunday, the Rev. Moacir Weirich asks the group of Brazilian immigrants attending church services in Newark to say a few words about what they're praying for.

For Weirich's first three years as pastor, they prayed mostly over the trials of everyday life. "My sister Maria is sick," Weirich recalls a typical petition. Or, "I can't find a job."

About five years ago, he says, things began to change.

One man asked God to help his friend, who was locked in a house in Mexico until he could pay off the smugglers he had hired to take him to the U.S.

Another man asked the group to pray for his wife, who was making the dangerous desert crossing that claims hundreds of lives every year. Someone else asked the group to pray for a pregnant friend preparing to wade across the Rio Grande.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: aliens; brazil; criminalaliens; essexcounty; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationlist; ironbound; newark; newjersey; wewantwhatyouhave
"Eight months' pregnant and she walked across the river and then she showed up at our door here," Moacir said, his voice quavering.

Just in time to lay anchor.

1 posted on 11/15/2005 7:51:33 AM PST by KeyesPlease
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To: KeyesPlease
Q: How many illegal immigrants are living in this country?

A: A Brazilian.

2 posted on 11/15/2005 8:00:02 AM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (Is it OK to steal tag lines from tee-shirts and bumper stickers?)
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname

How many are there in a Brazilian?


3 posted on 11/15/2005 8:03:21 AM PST by KeyesPlease
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To: KeyesPlease

I don't suppose ICE has any interest in this church. Naw, they're too engrossed with playing computer solitaire than doing their jobs.


4 posted on 11/15/2005 8:03:38 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: KeyesPlease
How many are there in a Brazilian?

LOL! It took me a few seconds, but I got it.

My brother actually married a Brazilian woman. She's one of the kindest, most generous and hardworking people I know. I have never been able to bring myself to ask if she was here legally before she married my brother. I did tell my brother the Brazilian joke, though. :-)

5 posted on 11/15/2005 8:07:56 AM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (Is it OK to steal tag lines from tee-shirts and bumper stickers?)
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname; All

We have a lot of Brazilians in my town, and I find them to be good, personable, polite, hardworking people. I like em...


6 posted on 11/15/2005 8:21:50 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rlmorel
We have a lot of Brazilians in my town, and I find them to be good, personable, polite, hardworking people. I like em...,

Same here, I've found for the most part the guys are friendly and the women are beautiful.

7 posted on 11/15/2005 8:32:55 AM PST by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: rlmorel; IYAAYAS

Does that mean that you're both ok with illegals as long as they are Brazilian?


8 posted on 11/15/2005 8:35:58 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: KeyesPlease


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


9 posted on 11/15/2005 8:44:45 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
Does that mean that you're both ok with illegals as long as they are Brazilian?

No one here said that the Brazilians we were talking about were illegal. There are Brazilians who are here legally. My brother's in-laws are here legally.

Something kind of funny happened on Independence Day with my twelve year old son. We were at fireworks in an area of Massachusetts that has people of many different nationalities and he apparently took note of it. So, at one point during the evening he stood up and said in a loud voice, "Boy, there sure are a lot of illegal aliens here!" ROFLOL! I wanted to crawl under my lawn chair. He needed a little lesson on what illegal aliens are and that you can't tell by looking at them that they're here illegally. :-)

10 posted on 11/15/2005 9:07:41 AM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (Is it OK to steal tag lines from tee-shirts and bumper stickers?)
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
Boy, there sure are a lot of illegal aliens here!

LOL!! I can guess what kind of conversations are going on at the cantfindagoodscreenname house! LOL. We have them here at the radiohead homestead.

When my son was 3 or 4, we used to watch Godzilla movies togther. One day I took him with me to school and there was a Chinese guy standing outside the door as we were going in. Across the parking lot, with little finger pointing away, my son excitedly yells, "Look mommie, there's a man like in Godzilla!" It never occurred to me that perhaps he hadn't seen an Asian in the real world before. I was pretty embarassed and hoped the other student didn't hear/understand what my son had said.

11 posted on 11/15/2005 10:21:24 AM PST by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: radiohead
I was pretty embarassed and hoped the other student didn't hear/understand what my son had said.

LOL! That was great! I told my kids this story and then I told them that I had told FR about what my son had said about the illegal aliens at the fireworks. Then my son said, "You didn't tell them I was 12 when I said that, did you?" At least your son was young enough to not know any better. :-)

12 posted on 11/15/2005 10:43:51 AM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (Is it OK to steal tag lines from tee-shirts and bumper stickers?)
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
"You didn't tell them I was 12 when I said that, did you?" At least your son was young enough to not know any better

I was thinking that, but I was too polite to say it. : ) At least, at 12, your son is thinking about issues like illegal aliens. Good for him.

13 posted on 11/15/2005 10:59:48 AM PST by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: wtc911

No.

I apologize if I was mistaken, I did not realize this thread was about ILLEGAL Brazilians...I thought it was just about an influx of Brazilians into a small town.

Illegal immigration is illegal immigration (Unless, of course, it is the Swedish Bathing Suit Model Team that is trying to get into the country...they can stay at my house if the INS is looking for them...:)


14 posted on 11/15/2005 11:06:26 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rlmorel

That's what I thought. We agree on everything here...including the Swedish team.


15 posted on 11/15/2005 11:08:59 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: KeyesPlease
Odd that they do not mention the name of the Church. It could very well be my father's old Parish, St. Casimir's, which is on Pulaski street in Ironbound.

The Brazilian influx into Ironbound started about 10-15 years ago. Since there was already a large and established Portuguese population, they had no problem with the local lingo. Most of the landlords and business owners in the nabe remain European Portuguese, though most of the folks moving in are now from Brazil.

16 posted on 11/15/2005 11:12:58 AM PST by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY!)
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To: rlmorel

Send some of your female Brazilians here. I will help to legalize at least one. ;-)


17 posted on 11/15/2005 11:13:42 AM PST by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY!)
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To: wtc911
Does that mean that you're both ok with illegals as long as they are Brazilian?

As long as they have Brazilians. And are hot. Yes.

18 posted on 11/15/2005 11:15:09 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Travis McGee; wtc911
Legal Brazilians = Good. Illegal Brazilians = Bad. Both however are better than legal migrants from a certain Carribbean Commonwealth.

(Tongue halfway in cheek).

19 posted on 11/15/2005 11:15:34 AM PST by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY!)
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To: radiohead
When I was around three, I attended Nursery School with the first black kid that I had ever seen. I actually thought that if he touched me I would turn black.

I was a weird kid.

20 posted on 11/15/2005 11:17:42 AM PST by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY!)
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To: wtc911
Does that mean that you're both ok with illegals as long as they are Brazilian?

Everyone has their illegal alien pets. Their gardner, roofer, nanny, etc....  That they can feel virtuous about

21 posted on 11/15/2005 11:20:04 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Clemenza
I actually thought that if he touched me I would turn black.

I got another story for ya.

I'm mixed, light skinned, like an hispanic. My mother is very dark. Obviously, when I was born, I was also light skinned.

My mother had this constant visitor, a white woman, who was becoming a pain. She finally asked the woman why she came over so much and the reply was, "I heard negro babies are born white and then they change. I want to be here when she changes color."

Lord have mercy.

22 posted on 11/15/2005 11:22:45 AM PST by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: dennisw

I could be wrong, but I think there are a lot more illegal aliens that come into this country from Equador-well, actually Mexico via Equador-than Brazil.


23 posted on 11/15/2005 11:23:56 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: radiohead
My mother had this constant visitor, a white woman, who was becoming a pain. She finally asked the woman why she came over so much and the reply was, "I heard negro babies are born white and then they change. I want to be here when she changes color.

BWAHAAAA! And this lady was an ADULT?!

24 posted on 11/15/2005 11:24:52 AM PST by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Northern New Jersey (particularly Union City, West New York, Bloomfield, and other areas) has the largest Ecuadorian population outside of Ecuador.

I had a neighbor when I lived in the Bronx about 10 years ago who was from Ecuador. He was pissed off that all the Dominicans kept referring to him as "un Mexicano."

25 posted on 11/15/2005 11:27:07 AM PST by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY!)
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To: radiohead
My mother had this constant visitor, a white woman, who was becoming a pain. She finally asked the woman why she came over so much and the reply was, "I heard negro babies are born white and then they change. I want to be here when she changes color."

That kind of stupidity and ignorance leaves me speechless.

26 posted on 11/15/2005 11:28:58 AM PST by darkangel82
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

My bet is Brazil. Based on personal experiences. Plus I don't hear about Ecuadoreans crossing (illegally entering) via the Mexican desert. Brazilians are caught all the time


27 posted on 11/15/2005 11:47:30 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: dennisw
Among these smuggling routes, United States immigration and military authorities say, the Ecuadorean sea voyage is one of the least visible and fastest growing. In the last four years, at least 250,000 people have left Ecuador on fishing boats, they say. That is nearly 10 times the 27,000 Haitians who embarked by boat for the United States during the 1990's.

http://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=3017_0_9_0

28 posted on 11/15/2005 11:53:30 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: wtc911
Does that mean that you're both ok with illegals as long as they are Brazilian?

Can only speak for myself, but if they have been productively working since they arrived and intend to become legal, then yes. We benefit from good citizens. Their actions over time distinguish them from the perpetual freeloaders and crooks.

29 posted on 11/15/2005 11:56:47 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: dennisw

So you'd prefer they all be forced to wear yellow stars?


30 posted on 11/15/2005 12:00:04 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

You have some Brazilian illegal alien pets? How unique of you! How mighty white of you. How compassionate of you.


31 posted on 11/15/2005 12:03:20 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: radiohead
I was thinking that, but I was too polite to say it. : ) At least, at 12, your son is thinking about issues like illegal aliens. Good for him.

He can't help but NOT think about these things since he hears talk radio around here for many hours every day, lol. This boy is very sweet and charming, but he's still living in a dream world, lol. He's got older brothers who are very mature and have a good grasp of reality. This kid, however....lol. He provides a lot of comic relief for our family. :-)

32 posted on 11/15/2005 12:31:17 PM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (Is it OK to steal tag lines from tee-shirts and bumper stickers?)
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To: KeyesPlease

Ask George Bush


33 posted on 11/15/2005 12:58:10 PM PST by american spirit (Can you handle the truth? - www.rbnlive.com ( 4-6 CST M-F)) / click "listen live")
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


34 posted on 11/15/2005 2:27:39 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


35 posted on 11/15/2005 2:44:02 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Naw, they're too engrossed with playing computer solitaire than doing their jobs.

Freecell can be quite time consuming too, they probably have tournaments at ICE headquarters. :)

36 posted on 11/15/2005 3:06:39 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: wtc911

We're bigoted towards any tribe with the prettiest womenfolk.

It's the American Way!

;>)


37 posted on 11/15/2005 4:57:17 PM PST by wardaddy (Captain Spaulding .....the perfect dinner guest)
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To: dennisw

I'm ok with illegal Miss Universe contestants...I confess.

a chink in my otherwise nativist armour


38 posted on 11/15/2005 4:58:51 PM PST by wardaddy (Captain Spaulding .....the perfect dinner guest)
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To: wardaddy

As long as I am on the admission committee...


39 posted on 11/16/2005 4:04:34 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: wtc911

LOL...yes sir!


40 posted on 11/16/2005 6:41:46 AM PST by wardaddy (Captain Spaulding .....the perfect dinner guest)
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To: KeyesPlease
"I can't find a job."

Border Patrol: Please post this in Spanish every 100 feet along the border.

41 posted on 04/01/2006 9:03:02 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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