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Needed: A strategy for an exit from Iraq [barf alert + response]
The Hill ^ | November 16, 2005 | Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.)

Posted on 11/16/2005 9:02:56 AM PST by FreeKeys

Yesterday’s overwhelming Senate vote to require detailed reporting to Congress on Iraq and make clear that the United States will not stay longer “than required” puts Iraq back on Congress’s agenda.

There is now a strong bipartisan consensus that we need an exit strategy. But yet to emerge is the content of that strategy.

We have two overriding objectives in Iraq: to facilitate a viable power-sharing agreement among Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds and to turn over responsibility for security to the Iraqis on a steady basis.

Any exit strategy must address both issues in order to leave post-Saddam Iraq in better shape than we found it, to honor the sacrifices of more than 2,000 troops and to justify the expenditure of billions of dollars.

By insisting on a series of detailed and regular reports, the Senate language puts the burden — properly — on the administration to develop an exit strategy. As this happens, several steps could be useful to clarify U.S. intentions:

• First, President Bush should state unequivocally that the United States does not seek and will not maintain permanent military bases in Iraq. Our 60-year presence in Germany and our 50-year presence in Korea rightfully make people nervous that a half-century from now American Marines will be living on a base in downtown Baghdad. President Bush should put that to rest — and make clear that U.S. policy is to leave Iraq completely.

• Second, President Bush must be explicit that we have no designs on Iraq’s precious natural resource, oil. He should state clearly that oil revenues belong to the people of Iraq and no one else. At the same time, our government should also help Iraq get the oil flowing and encourage its neighbors, like Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, to assist.

• Third, the president should redouble diplomatic efforts to get allies and partners to come into Iraq to share the burden for security and infrastructure. Internationalizing our efforts will take the target off our back and make it easier for us to leave. But it will only work if we cede control over contracts and encourage significant foreign participation in the vast work of reconstructing Iraq.

• Fourth, President Bush should ask a high-level personal envoy to focus on nothing but ironing out the political conflict among Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds. The goal is to create a viable, democratic federal government, not a weakened, balkanized state, despite the conspiracy theories of some. U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, who helped engineer the Sunni “buy-in” to the recent constitutional referendum, is a natural choice for this role, but it will mean reducing his other responsibilities.

• And fifth, we must accelerate training of Iraqi military units to operate independently. Establishing metrics and a drawdown pegged to success, as Rep. Ike Skelton (D-Mo.) has proposed, will send the unequivocal message to the Iraqi people that they must become the defenders of their own country.

President Bush and his advisers decided how and when to fight this war. They owe Congress and the American people a detailed strategy to bring our engagement in Iraq to a successful end. An exit strategy that clarifies America’s political and strategic intentions will hasten the achievement of U.S. objectives and bring our brave men and women home.

Harman, the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, represents California’s 36th Congressional District. She returned from her most recent visit to Iraq on Sept. 30.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; antivictory; braindeath; capitulation; democrats; exitstrategies; frenchfriedtactics; intimidation; iraq; moronalert; proinsurgent; shortsightedidiot; stuckonstupid; surrender; terminaldhimmitude; wimperouters
Actually, President Bush should state unequivocally that the U.S. DOES seek and WILL maintain permanent military bases in Iraq, as he should have done from the beginning -- as the MAIN reason we're there: to DEMONSTRATE to all regimes in the region exactly what will happen to them if they continue to support and supply terrorists, to get them to comply by INTIMIDATION INSTEAD OF additional military action, and to obviously be in position to do something about it if they don't.

Remember, Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi made it clear that he decided to disarm due to our terminating the regime in Iraq, NOT Afghanistan: "I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid." And Syria has pulled out of Lebanon.

In contrast, pulling out of Germany might NOT be encouraging to our Nazi enemies, so THAT would be a better pullout to consider doing at this point in time, doncha think?

http://FreedomKeys.com/whyiraq.htm

1 posted on 11/16/2005 9:02:58 AM PST by FreeKeys
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To: FreeKeys
Our 60-year presence in Germany and our 50-year presence in Korea rightfully make people nervous that a half-century from now American Marines will be living on a base in downtown Baghdad.

It seems to me that it makes Germans and Koreans nervous when we talk about leaving.

2 posted on 11/16/2005 9:08:46 AM PST by rhombus
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To: FreeKeys

-- Check this out.

"People can be intimidated, but they're not going to be intimidated if there are people around like you who can go intimidate the intimidators." -- Don Rumsfeld, to Iraqi troops, 2-11-05


3 posted on 11/16/2005 9:10:01 AM PST by FreeKeys ("If you try to please everybody, somebody's not going to like it." -- Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: FreeKeys

Yeppers...I couldn't get past her FIRST demand...no permanent bases in Iraq....

She must be smoking something to demand that....what an idiot!~


4 posted on 11/16/2005 9:15:05 AM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: FreeKeys

Yesterday’s overwhelming Senate vote to require detailed reporting to Congress on Iraq and make clear that the United States will not stay longer “than required” puts Iraq back on Congress’s agenda.



Um, didn't this lose in the Senate?


5 posted on 11/16/2005 9:20:14 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Allah demands you to send your son to die for him, God sent His son to die for me.)
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To: FreeKeys
Typical ignorant BS. These people simply do not get it!

What's it going to take for them to understand how this works? A dirtybomb in the subway car they happen to be riding on? A plane crashing into their house? What? Ugh...

6 posted on 11/16/2005 9:21:50 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: FreeKeys
MORON ALERT!

Have any of these delusional nutjobs ever tried to write "Exit Strategies" for:

Pit bull attacks
Avalanches
Bear Attacks.
Shark attacks
Tornadoes
Hippopotamus attacks
Rattlesnake attacks.
Avian Flu infestations...

Some things do not lend themselves to "Exit Strategies", otherwise, we would have the wisdom of 6000 years of civilization and wars (and presumably "exit strategies") to choose from.

We are painfully being driven to extinction by ignorant imbecile children.

7 posted on 11/16/2005 9:22:41 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: FreeKeys

Here is a strategy for exiting that some don't seem to understand. WIN THE CONFLICT BY DESTROYING THE ENEMY!

Finishing the job does not include leaving armed units of al queda on the loose.

Wimping out only encourages those fighters and they know Americans cannot stomach too much hostility and bloodshed when our troops are involved and the media is against America.


8 posted on 11/16/2005 9:46:20 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Publius6961
make clear that the United States will not stay longer “than required”

Allow me to suggest that we will be required to remain there until hell freezes over. This is an unstable part of the world; and, we have a vital interests in what happens there.
9 posted on 11/16/2005 9:47:48 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: FreeKeys
Lets take this sh@@ one step at a time.

First - President has already stated we will leave. BUT, you jacka@@, if the legal Iraq Government ask us to maintain a base in Iraq, you tell me why we should not. Think stupid

Second - If Iraq wants to sell us oil, why not. This is the most stupid of all your remarks.

Third - Hey, nut, it will be up to the Iraq Government to allow any allies or so called partners to remain in any capacity in their land. Dumb.

Fourth - That will be Iraq's problem. Not ours. President Bush only said we will help establish a democratic type of government in Iraq, and it will be up to the Iraq's and not us to create a viable anything. Got it, nut.

Fifth - What in the hell do you think we are doing. We have build a very strong Iraqi army and police with hundreds of thousands of personnel. We already working on increasing the caliber of their training. Where in the hell are you.

Oh, forgot, stuck on stupid. (forgive my typing errors, I'm just tired of this piss)
10 posted on 11/16/2005 9:58:54 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Logical me; All
Oh, forgot, stuck on stupid.

No spit.
Does anyone else find it a disgusting irony that this IDIOT is on the "Intelligence Committee"?

11 posted on 11/16/2005 10:05:24 AM PST by FreeKeys ("A self-righteous 'crat with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude."-Nugent)
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To: ARCADIA
The actual texts of the two amendments voted on yesterday.

The 'R' amendment is pretty innocuous to me, and will simply allow the administration to make a wonderful quarterly report to the public. I really like this approach, as it will bypass the Old Media FRAUDcasters and put the "900 reports" Rummy referred to in a nice compiled format. The 'D' amendment was DANGEROUS.

Nota Bene the real BIGGIE strikeout of Levin's Paragraph (7) at the end. 

Frankly, the amendment seems pretty innocuous to me, and simply allows the administration to confirm what the administration has been stating all along. --- but it will now be in a more noticeable manner:




   SA 2518. Mr. WARNER (for himself and Mr. FRIST)  SA 2519. Mr. LEVIN (for himself, Mr. BIDEN, Mr. REID, Mr. DODD, Mr. KERRY, Mr. FEINGOLD, Mr. DURBIN, Mr. REED, Mr. KENNEDY, Mrs. FEINSTEIN, Mr. OBAMA, and Mrs. BOXER) proposed an amendment to the bill S. 1042, to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2006 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe personnel strengths for such fiscal year for the Armed Forces, and for other purposes; as follows:

    At the end of title XII, add the following:

   SEC. __. UNITED STATES POLICY ON IRAQ.

    (a) Short Title.--This section may be cited as the ``United States Policy on Iraq Act''.

    (b) Sense of Senate.--It is the sense of the Senate that, in order to succeed in Iraq--

    (1) members of the United States Armed Forces who are serving or have served in Iraq and their families deserve the utmost respect and the heartfelt gratitude of the American people for their unwavering devotion to duty, service to the Nation, and selfless sacrifice under the most difficult circumstances;

    (2) it is important to recognize that the Iraqi people have made enormous sacrifices and that the overwhelming majority of Iraqis want to live in peace and security;

    (3) calendar year 2006 should be a period of significant transition to full Iraqi sovereignty, with Iraqi security forces taking the lead for the security of a free and sovereign Iraq, thereby creating the conditions for the phased redeployment of United States forces from Iraq;

    (4) United States military forces should not stay in Iraq indefinitely any longer than required and the people of Iraq should be so advised;

    (5) the Administration should tell the leaders of all groups and political parties in Iraq that they need to make the compromises necessary to achieve the broad-based and sustainable political settlement that is essential for defeating the insurgency in Iraq, within the schedule they set for themselves; and

    (6) the Administration needs to explain to Congress and the American people its strategy for the successful completion of the mission in Iraq.

    (c) Reports to Congress on United States Policy and Military Operations in Iraq.--Not later than 30 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every three months thereafter until all United States combat brigades have redeployed from Iraq, the President shall submit to Congress an unclassified report on United States policy and military operations in Iraq. Each report shall include the following: Each report shall include, to the extent practicable, the following unclassified information:

    (1) The current military mission and the diplomatic, political, economic, and military measures, if any, that are being or have been undertaken to successfully complete or support that mission, including:

    (A) Efforts to convince Iraq's main communities to make the compromises necessary for a broad-based and sustainable political settlement.

    (B) Engaging the international community and the region in the effort to stabilize Iraq and to forge a broad-based and sustainable political settlement.

    (C) Strengthening the capacity of Iraq's government ministries.

    (D) Accelerating the delivery of basic services.

    (E) Securing the delivery of pledged economic assistance from the international community and additional pledges of assistance.

    (F) Training Iraqi security forces and transferring security responsibilities to those forces and the government of Iraq.

    (2) Whether the Iraqis have made the compromises necessary to achieve the broad-based and sustainable political settlement that is essential for defeating the insurgency in Iraq.

    (3) Any specific conditions included in the April 2005 Multi-National Forces-Iraq campaign action plan (referred to in United States Government Accountability Office October 2005 report on Rebuilding Iraq: DOD Reports Should Link Economic, Governance, and Security Indicators to Conditions for Stabilizing Iraq), and any subsequent updates to that campaign plan, that must be met in order to provide for the transition of security responsibility to Iraqi security forces.

    (4) To the extent that these conditions are not covered under paragraph (3), the following should also be addressed:

    (A) The number of battalions of the Iraqi Armed Forces that must be able to operate independently or to take the lead in counterinsurgency operations and the defense of Iraq's territory.

    (B) The number of Iraqi special police units that must be able to operate independently or to take the lead in maintaining law and order and fighting the insurgency.

    (C) The number of regular police that must be trained and equipped to maintain law and order.

    (D) The ability of Iraq's Federal ministries and provincial and local governments to independently sustain, direct, and coordinate Iraq's security forces.

     (5) The criteria to be used to evaluate progress toward meeting such conditions.

     (6) A schedule for meeting such conditions, an assessment of the extent to which such conditions have been met, information regarding variables that could alter that schedule, and the reasons for any subsequent changes to that schedule.   

     (7) A campaign plan with estimated dates for the phased redeployment of the United States Armed Forces from Iraq as each condition is met, with the understanding that unexpected contingencies may arise.

  

12 posted on 11/16/2005 10:11:06 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Publius6961
Here's how they voted:















Levin's
#2519
Warner's
#2518


Levin's
#2519
Warner's
#2518

Alaska: Murkowski R Nay Yea Stevens R Nay Yea

Arizona: Kyl R Nay Nay McCain R Nay Nay

Arkansas: Lincoln D Yea Yea Pryor D Nay Yea

California: Boxer D Yea Yea Feinstein D Yea Yea

Colorado: Allard R Nay Yea Salazar D Yea Yea

Connecticut: Dodd D Yea Yea Lieberman D Nay Yea

Delaware: Biden D Yea Yea Carper D Yea Yea

Florida: Martinez R Nay Yea Nelson D Nay Yea

Georgia: Chambliss R Nay Nay Isakson R Nay Nay

Hawaii: Akaka D Yea Yea Inouye D Yea Yea

Idaho: Craig R Nay Yea Crapo R Nay Yea

Illinois: Durbin D Yea Yea Obama D Yea Yea

Indiana: Bayh D Yea Yea Lugar R Nay Yea

Iowa: Grassley R Nay Yea Harkin D Yea Nay

Kansas: Brownback R Nay Yea Roberts R Nay Yea

Kentucky: Bunning R Nay Nay McConnell R Nay Yea

Louisiana: Landrieu D Yea Yea Vitter R Nay Nay

Maine: Collins R Nay Yea Snowe R Nay Yea

Maryland: Mikulski D Yea Yea Sarbanes D Yea Yea

Massachusetts: Kennedy D Yea Nay Kerry D Yea Nay

Michigan: Levin D Yea Yea Stabenow D Yea Yea

Minnesota: Coleman R Nay Yea Dayton D Yea Yea

Mississippi: Cochran R Nay Yea Lott R Nay Yea

Missouri: Bond R Nay Yea Talent R Nay Yea

Montana: Baucus D Yea Yea Burns R Nay Yea

Nebraska: Hagel R Nay Yea Nelson D Nay Yea

Nevada: Ensign R Nay Yea Reid D Yea Yea

New Hampshire: Gregg R Nay Yea Sununu R Nay Yea

New Jersey: Corzine D Absent

Lautenberg D Yea Yea

New Mexico: Bingaman D Yea Yea Domenici R Nay Yea

New York: Clinton D Yea Yea Schumer D Yea Yea

North Carolina: Burr R Nay Nay Dole R Nay Yea

North Dakota: Conrad D Nay Nay Dorgan D Yea Yea

Ohio: DeWine R Nay Yea Voinovich R Nay Yea

Oklahoma: Coburn R Nay Nay Inhofe R Nay Nay

Oregon: Smith R Nay Yea Wyden D Yea Yea

Pennsylvania: Santorum R Nay Yea Specter R Nay Yea

Rhode Island: Chafee R Yea Yea Reed D Yea Yea

South Carolina: DeMint R Nay Nay Graham R Nay Nay

South Dakota: Johnson D Yea Yea Thune R Nay Nay

Tennessee: Alexander R Absent

Frist R Nay Yea

Texas: Cornyn R Nay Yea Hutchison R Nay Yea

Utah: Bennett R Nay Yea Hatch R Nay Yea

Vermont: Jeffords I Yea Yea Leahy D Yea Nay

Virginia: Allen R Nay Yea Warner R Nay Yea

Washington: Cantwell D Yea Yea Murray D Yea Yea

West Virginia: Byrd D Yea Nay Rockefeller D Yea Yea

Wisconsin: Feingold D Yea Yea Kohl D Yea Yea

Wyoming: Enzi R Nay Yea Thomas R Nay Yea














13 posted on 11/16/2005 10:13:02 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: FreeKeys

Okay, here's my strategy:

1. Kill all the Sunnis
2. Kill all the Shi'ites
3. Kill all the Kurds
4. Repeat the process in Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, et. al.
5. Lease the empty land to the Mexicans sneaking across our borders in "search of a better life", while simultanously dismantling the US welfare system.

Should keep us busy for the next 50 years or so...


14 posted on 11/16/2005 10:19:31 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Sh*t since 632 AD...)
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To: FreeKeys

What is the exit strategy and timetable for withdrawing from the "War on Poverty"?????


15 posted on 11/16/2005 10:21:22 AM PST by wingnut1971
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To: wingnut1971
What is the exit strategy and timetable for withdrawing from the "War on Poverty"?????

The same as The War on Drugs/Cancer/Aids whatever??????
16 posted on 11/16/2005 10:27:40 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: FreeKeys

Actually, there is a perfectly good exit stategy: Through IRAN.


17 posted on 11/16/2005 10:28:53 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: FreeKeys
"Does anyone else find it a disgusting irony that this IDIOT is on the "Intelligence Committee"?

You got that right. My previous remarks were intended for this IDIOT.
18 posted on 11/16/2005 10:32:47 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: wingnut1971
What is the exit strategy and timetable for withdrawing from the "War on Poverty"?????

Hmmmm. Good question.

THE  ROAD  TO  HELL ...
By 1997, after the first 30 years of the "War on Poverty," $5.4Trillion in tax dollars had been spent on poverty programs, and the national debt had risen to (guess what? yep...) $5.4 Trillion.  And the poverty rate? Uh-huh, EXACTLY THE SAME as it was 30 years before.
A million seconds is less than 12 days; a billion seconds is over 31 years; a trillion seconds is more than 31,000 years, and 5.4 trillion seconds is over 167,000 years.

19 posted on 11/16/2005 10:41:19 AM PST by FreeKeys ("Helping the poor through the government is like feeding the sparrows through cows."-Walter Williams)
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To: FreeKeys

We're finally getting out of Germany and Japan?


20 posted on 11/16/2005 10:46:09 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: FreeKeys
First, President Bush should state unequivocally that the United States does not seek and will not maintain permanent military bases in Iraq

Yeah, you dumbass Democrat, let's end up LOSING our overall strategic position in the Gulf because of your pinhead views on national security.

21 posted on 11/16/2005 10:48:01 AM PST by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Little Ray
Actually, there is a perfectly good exit stategy: Through IRAN.

I love it. That reminds me of a verse to "McNamara's Band" I wrote in '63:

Oh, me name is McNamara, I'm the leader of a band
Of cost-accounting "whiz kids", we're the greatest in the land
Please say that we're the best, the TFX you can't deny
Don't call it a "Flying Edsel" or I'll break right down and cry!

(chorus):
Oh, around Da Nang the bombs go bang
And the guns they blaze away
While we avoid decisions our computers are run today
By Kennedy, Kennedy, Morse and Rusk, Fullbright and Fred Korth
Now none dare say that the only way
Out of Vietnam is north!

22 posted on 11/16/2005 10:48:23 AM PST by FreeKeys ("We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." -- Marge Simpson)
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To: FreeKeys

The goal in the war on Islamic terrorism should be this and this alone: total victory. And total victory means not having to fear being attacked by our enemies anymore.


25 posted on 11/16/2005 10:54:27 AM PST by jpl
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To: FreeKeys

To sum it all up the exit strategy of the Rats is to cut and run like Billy Jeff did from Mogadishu.
They don't care what happens afterwards


27 posted on 11/16/2005 11:12:26 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Wombat101
Are you say extermination is the answer?

Be honest
28 posted on 11/16/2005 11:19:39 AM PST by commonerX (n)
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To: FreeKeys

I've changed my mind about pulling out of Germany. Next battle in the war on terror may be Battleground Europe, and we need to stay in theater. Much as I hate the idea of pulling the French Chestnuts out again, we have vital interests in the region.


29 posted on 11/16/2005 11:22:19 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Islamism = Islamic Supremacism & = racist ideology, not political.)
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To: trubluolyguy

Just more political grandstanding, posturing, prancing, and posing. They get voluminous reports on the Iraq situation already, and the strategy is more than clear. As Rumsfeld put it, "The Pentagon sends over 900 reports a year to Congress. I hope somebody is reading some of them."


30 posted on 11/16/2005 11:24:19 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Islamism = Islamic Supremacism & = racist ideology, not political.)
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To: blinachka

Senators or Congressmen ride in subway cars? Surely you jest.


31 posted on 11/16/2005 11:25:34 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Islamism = Islamic Supremacism & = racist ideology, not political.)
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To: FreeKeys

Dear Editors:

It is time to cut and run in Iraq.

Bush and virtually every Democrat, world leader, and intelligence agency came to the conclusion that Saddam had WMD. Since Saddam’s WMD have not yet been found, that appears to have been a big, but honest, mistake. Nonetheless, the Democrats’ lie that “Bush Lied,” has stuck with the Average American.

Democrats and the Media have convinced a majority of Americans that 2,000 dead soldiers is too high a price to win what Al Qaeda calls the “Central Front” in the War on Terror. It is immoral risk our troops when the Average American doesn’t believe fighting terrorists is worthwhile.

Rather than waste another soldier’s life defending our freedom against terrorists, let’s follow our Democrat Senators’ advice: cut and run, and turn Iraq over to Al Qaeda in Iraq. Bin Laden can come out of his cave and run the place.

Watching Democrats’ lies and cowardice cause Western Civilization to capitulate to medieval thugs proves Al Qaeda was right; Average Americans are unwilling to defend themselves.

My recommendation: study the Koran. Weak Americans should bow down to their superiors, the Islamofascists who can successfully dictate an American surrender through the Democrat party.

Right?


32 posted on 11/16/2005 11:38:27 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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To: FreeKeys
That reminds me of a verse to "McNamara's Band" I wrote in '63

On second thought, it was more like '66.

33 posted on 11/16/2005 1:25:30 PM PST by FreeKeys (Can John McCain object to the Islamofascists' repression of FREE SPEECH and NOT be a hypocrite??)
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To: Brad Cloven; All
Weak Americans should bow down to their superiors, the Islamofascists who can successfully dictate an American surrender through the Democrat party. Right?

Right.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams

34 posted on 11/16/2005 1:33:12 PM PST by FreeKeys ("FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a Texas Church 9-17-01)
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To: FreeKeys

Wow! I'll drink (a Sam Adams) to that!

(Changing tag-line)


35 posted on 11/16/2005 1:38:28 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (People unwilling to defend freedom become slaves.)
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To: Great Caesars Ghost

OK...true enough. I suppose only Mayor Bloomberg does that!


36 posted on 11/16/2005 5:04:08 PM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: commonerX

That was (mostly)sarcasm. As much as I would like to see it happen (I walked out of 1 WTC on 9/11), I know it's not a practical solution.


37 posted on 11/16/2005 10:13:59 PM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Sh*t since 632 AD...)
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To: FreeKeys

Current military plan is to go to 92K by the end of '06, right?

Isn't that an exit strategy?


38 posted on 11/16/2005 10:16:17 PM PST by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: blinachka
OK...true enough. I suppose only Mayor Bloomberg does that

Yes, I was thinking about that. It's really surprising that he does. Not that it impresses many people I wouldn't think. He doesn't seem to be a big friend of the plebians.

39 posted on 11/17/2005 8:43:58 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Who says we're going to win the War On Terror?)
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