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The return of the dreaded 11 Commandments of a THANKSGIVING DINNER
CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | Nov. 17 2005 | Carlo3b, Dad, Chef, Author

Posted on 11/17/2005 9:19:47 AM PST by carlo3b

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To: RedWhiteBlue

Ok You all sound like wonderful cooks...What about gravy? I've made the worse gravy. Sometimes so thick it's nasty...no one eats it and I've gone to buying the jarred stuff.

HELP


41 posted on 11/17/2005 9:57:35 AM PST by queenkathy (My idea of rebooting is kicking somebody in the butt twice)
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To: RedWhiteBlue
I see this happen when I make homemade stock from turkey carcasses after Thanksgiving or Christmas. But the stock I buy in the grocery store (Kitchen Basics) does not congeal at all when refrigerated. Is that rule true, and if so, is there a better stock to be had on the grocer's shelves, and who might carry it?

I am sorry to say that is so true, and when using canned broth the recipe will suffer somewhat.. I have on my stove as I type this a large pot containing the cheapest chicken parts I could find in the store.. I will leave that stew pot simmer,(NEVER BRING TO A BOIL) all day and most of the night. I added a whole onion and a large carrot, and the usually discarded bottom of a stalk of celery. This pot will provide me with all of the broth I need for cooking dinners for a couple of weeks.. I do the same with beef and pork bones..

42 posted on 11/17/2005 10:04:13 AM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: queenkathy; babaloo
All about Brining and Brining Poultry
43 posted on 11/17/2005 10:05:53 AM PST by hattend (In France, it's not just the cheese that's soft and runny.)
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To: babaloo

To brine a turkey, put the thawed (if frozen) and cleaned turkey in a large container. I find a cooler works well.
Cover the turkey in a brine solution of 1/3 cup of kosher or sea salt per gallon of water. You may also add about half that amount of brown sugar if you like. Do this the evening before roasting and put on the back porch or some where cool. The next morning, drain the turkey and put it on a platter in the refrigerator for a few hours until it is nice and dry.
Then prepare and roast as you like. You will be converted forever.


44 posted on 11/17/2005 10:06:25 AM PST by MistrX
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To: mrs tiggywinkle

The red with red and white with white is a very basic rule, the correct pairing is much more important.
Scroll down and input your entree and you will be shown a number of good wines.
http://www.wineonline.ie/kitchen/pairing.htm


45 posted on 11/17/2005 10:09:00 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: MistrX

Do you think it wise to try this for a newbie? I am interested but scared to risk the turkey going rotten before I even start to cook it in the oven.


46 posted on 11/17/2005 10:09:38 AM PST by alisasny
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To: Bahbah
Will do, you are now listed in rarefied company indeed.. Have a great Thanksgiving.. :)
47 posted on 11/17/2005 10:09:51 AM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b

I tried that with beef bones, turned out disgusting, grey water. Tried it again, browning the bones first, had to cook it way down for any flavor, what's the trick?


48 posted on 11/17/2005 10:10:37 AM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country. Islam is a terrorist organization.)
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To: queenkathy; babaloo
Brining is easy...you need a container that will hold the turkey..and ideally, will fit in the refrigerator..if it won't, use a picnic cooler... Figure 3 gallons of water...add one cup brown sugar, one cup of salt..( Note: if you're usingkosher salt, use two cups..)

Remove the giblets from the inside, rinse the turkey,and immerse in the brine..and refrigerate for 24 hours

If you have to use a cooler, because your fridge isn't big enough, put some foil on top pf the bird, and add severl frozen "ice packs" to keep it cold.

Remove from the brine..rinse the bird under cold water..and PAT DRY..then prepare as usual...best bird you'll ever eat..

Note..alternative method..instead of water and sugar..use the same volume of Coca-Cola CLASSIC, add the same amount of salt..

49 posted on 11/17/2005 10:10:40 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: SF Republican

Thank you for the link. It's nice to know it may not be a concrete rule...I have my favorites for whatever I'm eating. :o)


50 posted on 11/17/2005 10:13:15 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: alisasny

I was a newbie the first time I tried it.
It's easy as pie.
It also works for chicken and pork roasts.
Try it, you'll like it;)


51 posted on 11/17/2005 10:14:52 AM PST by MistrX
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To: carlo3b

12th Commandment:
Take the wife & family out for Thanksgiving dinner...
no fuss, no muss and NO DISHES, POTS & PANS TO WASH! LOL


52 posted on 11/17/2005 10:15:37 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Blue Eyes

Sweet potato fries-
We just toss them about in a bit of olive oil and salt and pepper. Pop into the oven on a cookie sheet.

What else would you do to them?

(sweet potatoes are the best!)

I like sweet potato casserole and baked sweet potatoes. You are making me hungry.


53 posted on 11/17/2005 10:15:46 AM PST by getitright (Liberalism is irresponsible.)
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To: alisasny
Good for you asking someone to bring the mashed potatoes.. You have done them a great service in doing so, being a guest at a function always poses a dilemma for us, (although I know this is old fashioned, I have raised my kids to do it anyway) what to bring when invited to for a party.. Enjoy yourself.. using the grill as a warmer, is a great idea as well.. :)
54 posted on 11/17/2005 10:16:16 AM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: queenkathy
What about gravy?

My hubby makes the best giblet gravy on the planet. How he makes it I have no idea and neither do I want to learn, otherwise it would be something else for me to make. But I can say this, it's delicious.

55 posted on 11/17/2005 10:19:18 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: ken5050
My daddy does the T'giving turkey (and the Christmas turkey) with brine. He has a special turkey-brining pot that fits inside a massive cooler that he puts on the back porch . ..

It is always splendidly delicious! But my daddy is one of those born cooks . . . everything he makes is perfect. < grrrrrr >

56 posted on 11/17/2005 10:20:28 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: pbrown

Have him give us the secret and then don't look!


57 posted on 11/17/2005 10:20:28 AM PST by queenkathy (My idea of rebooting is kicking somebody in the butt twice)
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To: carlo3b

Thank you, chef.

Terrific website, everyone -- check at source. Don't miss the wait loss and smoking cessation advice.



58 posted on 11/17/2005 10:21:10 AM PST by annalex
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To: carlo3b

Oh please sign me up!

Suz


59 posted on 11/17/2005 10:21:13 AM PST by SuzanneWeeks (There is no one more militant than an antiwar protester)
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To: queenkathy

lolol, I ask him when he gets home, and I will avert my eyes.


60 posted on 11/17/2005 10:21:44 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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