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MEDIA MATTERS 'Minuteman'-like murderers convicted on 'Law & Order' (Hollywood Left Alert)
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | November 16, 2005 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 11/17/2005 11:59:38 AM PST by Jacob Kell

Two members of a civilian border-patrol group similar to the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps were depicted as guilty of murder in tonight's episode of NBC's "Law & Order."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: chrissimcox; countrymen; hollyweird; hollyweirdoleft; hollyweridoleftists; hollyweridos; hollywood; hollywoodleft; hollywoodleftists; jeffreyzucker; lao; lawandorder; liberalmedia; minutemen; nbc

1 posted on 11/17/2005 11:59:39 AM PST by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell

Minutemen, only guilty on TV!


2 posted on 11/17/2005 12:02:07 PM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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To: wvobiwan

When's the episode about the Illegal Alien who murders the cop?


3 posted on 11/17/2005 12:05:33 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Jacob Kell
I saw this outrage last night and posted the following on another thread. I also promptly fired off the following E-Mail to LawOrder@nbcuni.com, the E-Mail address I obtained from their Website:

Dear Sirs,

I am a long time viewer of your series "Law and Order" and usually come away from any particular episode feeling entertained and having thoughts provoked.

Unfortunately, tonight's episode was neither unless you count rage among emotions encompassed in the term 'Thought Provoking'. What the program was was simply 'Provoking' - period.

From my perspective the episode was a naked indictment of a whole segment of Society. According to your writers and producers the 'Usual Suspects' were nabbed - In this case Middle Aged White Men (Undoubtedly Born Again Christians) using the charade of Patriotism and assistance in enforcing the Law as a cover for their 'Real' intentions to shred the Constitution, kill minorities and rat out each other in the process of pursuing their greedy ends.

Pathetic and a true disservice to a serious subject. For shame!
4 posted on 11/17/2005 12:06:56 PM PST by TCats
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To: Jacob Kell
And Fred Thompson had nothing to say.....

A paycheck is a paycheck.

5 posted on 11/17/2005 12:07:13 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: TCats

Law and Order like other NBC shows has become a political tool for the left. Recently all you see is what the left leaning elite think. The Homosexual/Lesbian agenda is being pushed very hard and now this.


6 posted on 11/17/2005 12:11:20 PM PST by gunnedah
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To: Sonny M
And Fred Thompson had nothing to say.....

So much for the fledgling "draft Fred Thompson" in this forum. I notice he's called "Fred Dalton Thompson" by the network. Trying to camouflage his "body of work", perhaps?

7 posted on 11/17/2005 12:14:22 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: TCats
Well said...I saw the ad for this episode and decided not to watch it...I already guessed at the Hollywood outcome for it and according to your comment I was right....Your comments to NBC were well written.
8 posted on 11/17/2005 12:15:39 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: Jacob Kell
Law & Odor: Ripped from the headlines...
9 posted on 11/17/2005 12:18:30 PM PST by Minnesocold (Truth itself is the one enemy against which liberalism cannot prevail. -Christopher Adamo)
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To: gunnedah

"When Law and Order like other NBC shows has become a political tool for the left."

When did this happen?


10 posted on 11/17/2005 12:19:52 PM PST by Jacob Kell (NBC-Neo Bolshevik Communists or Nothing But Communists)
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To: gunnedah

Nothing all that "recent" about it. We quit watching it years ago because so many episodes demonized guns.


11 posted on 11/17/2005 12:25:15 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Jacob Kell

Will this episode be aired in Spanish?


12 posted on 11/17/2005 12:32:57 PM PST by polymuser (")
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To: Jacob Kell

Did you catch any of E-Ring last night? Christian terrorists threaten to blow up Muslims.


13 posted on 11/17/2005 12:33:22 PM PST by frankenMonkey (Name one civil liberty that was not paid for in blood)
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To: Minnesocold

Flaw & Odor


14 posted on 11/17/2005 12:35:07 PM PST by Bear_Slayer
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To: Bear_Slayer

Flaw & Odor ripped from the hemline


15 posted on 11/17/2005 12:36:00 PM PST by Bear_Slayer
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To: frankenMonkey

Yeah, totally stupid and Hollyweird. Boring.


16 posted on 11/17/2005 12:39:25 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie ("What do you call Parisians now? "......"French Fries !")
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To: Bear_Slayer

Watch Simpson's clip (Real media).

17 posted on 11/17/2005 12:44:33 PM PST by Minnesocold (Truth itself is the one enemy against which liberalism cannot prevail. -Christopher Adamo)
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To: Jacob Kell
They did a number of Christians last night on E-ring. Hollywood and the rest of the left smells blood in the water bec of Dubya's poll numbers and they are pulling out all of the stops. I expect it to get worse before it gets better.

Oh, yeah, didn't watch it but from the previews it looked like the "Republican" on Commander in Chief" was going to get caught in some dastardly private situation and the "morally superior" Gena Davis/President would decide not to use it. Don't know if that's what happened but that's what it looked like.
18 posted on 11/17/2005 12:45:41 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Jacob Kell
Ratings last night:

On NBC, the just full season renewed E-Ring opened at a respectable 6.9/10 in the overnights (#2), 9.53 million viewers (#2), and a third-place 2.8/ 8 among adults 18-49. Lead-out The Apprentice: Martha Stewart, which might have worked had Donald Trump rested his version of the franchise, followed at a typically lackluster 5.2/ 7 in the overnights (#3), 6.35 million viewers (#4), and a 2.4/ 6 among adults 18-49 (#4) at 9 p.m. Tired Law & Order capped off the evening with a 9.1/14 in the overnights (#2), 11.43 million viewers (#2), and a last-place 3.4/ 9 among adults 18-49.

Media Week

19 posted on 11/17/2005 12:45:58 PM PST by Republican Red (Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment.)
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To: Jacob Kell

It's annoying because I really like the NYC edge to L&O, but Wolf has always taken groups, principally conservative, with which he has disagrements and stretched those disagreements into murder. Hell, he had two versions of Bernie Kerik being a murderer one on L&O and the other on, I think, L&O Crim intent.Wolf hides behind his disclaimer that the shows do not represent any real person, while at the same time the ads for all L&Os stress the "ripped from the headlines" content. Problem is the acting's great, the writing and dialogue make most TV shows appear illiterate, and they can draw on a multitude of actors to play those bit parts of NYers with extreme authenticity. So I am annoyed by the politics, but the show is too much fun to stay away.


20 posted on 11/17/2005 12:57:49 PM PST by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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To: gunnedah

Did L&O at one time *not* have a "liberal" bias?
I've seen only a few episodes, the last being
the one with the disturbed "conservative" postal
worker. That one was blatant. So I really don't
know about its past episodes.


21 posted on 11/17/2005 1:06:14 PM PST by cycjec (doesn't teach or inspire or compel them to think things throughu)
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To: Jacob Kell

Its been happening from the first , but lately its become the over riding interest of the show. Its gotten so bad I have quit watching it. The spin-offs are just so much crap where they make something off the wall fit into the program, and their forensic expert catches it every time.


22 posted on 11/17/2005 1:30:11 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: pawdoggie
So much for the fledgling "draft Fred Thompson" in this forum. I notice he's called "Fred Dalton Thompson" by the network. Trying to camouflage his "body of work", perhaps?

Actually thats an ego thing of his.

From what I read, he has alot of pull, he just doesn't use it with the show except for his own personal self.

Example, he doesn't live in NYC for and the show has to accomadate his schedule (i.e. he still lives in his home state and only flys in for a few scenes shot together and then leaves, his scenes only last a couple of minuits).

I don't know if he still does this, but he used to insist on being known as a guest star.

Sam Waterson does use his pull with the show, and everyone is willing to listen to former Senator Thompson (who actually is a former lawyer....which is what made him).

As a Senator, he showed alot of principle, and had a solid record (though weirdly, he called himself pro-choice and had a solid pro-life record, I like the record), but as an actor, he seems to have dumped all his principles aside and just likes getting a big fat paycheck.

You might laugh, but according to the shows creator, Thompsons charachter (Arthur Branch) is supposed to be a strict constructionist constitutionalist conservative, but on the show he is made to be a pure political oppurtinist.

23 posted on 11/17/2005 1:54:47 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: cycjec
Did L&O at one time *not* have a "liberal" bias?

The early versions were pretty balanced.

The actor who played Ben Stone refused to go in a liberal direction and balked at certain storylines.

Michael Moriarty even had the character he played hint at being pro-life.

Ironically, the DA on the show now is former republican senator (and with conservative credentials) Fred Thompson.....and all he does he collect a paycheck.

24 posted on 11/17/2005 1:58:13 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: xkaydet65
Hell, he had two versions of Bernie Kerik being a murderer one on L&O and the other on, I think, L&O Crim intent.

Its a common problem on the shows.

He will "rip a story from the headlines", not once, ut twice and sometimes 3 times.

Law and Order SVU ripped off the Terry Shiavo case, which was on the original episode only a few weeks ago.

SVU though spun it around and made the guy who wanted to pull the plug a bad guy while on law and order it was the opposite.

25 posted on 11/17/2005 2:02:29 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M
And Fred Thompson had nothing to say.....

< Fred had plenty to say, he just sounded a lot more likr Ted Kennedy, than Fred Dalton.

26 posted on 11/17/2005 4:14:22 PM PST by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jacob Kell

Status quo. L&O Criminal Intent threw in a sarcastic comment about the Patriot Act a couple of nights ago, too.


27 posted on 11/17/2005 4:15:31 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: itsahoot
< Fred had plenty to say, he just sounded a lot more likr Ted Kennedy, than Fred Dalton.

He seems to do a good job playing a RINO, maybe he fears a pay cut if he played a conservative character.

For the money he makes per episode, I don't think its to much for him to try and show some self respect.

28 posted on 11/17/2005 5:20:27 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Jacob Kell; Travis McGee

I only saw a few minutes of last night's episode right before the half hour break. I knew it would be slanted. I did notice though a book in the store of one of the minute men. Was it a copy of Enemies Foreign and Domestic? It did look like a Gadsen flag on a yellow background. Did anyone record the show and could they check that out?


29 posted on 11/17/2005 7:01:13 PM PST by Betty Jane
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To: Jacob Kell

I no longer watch any of the "Evil White Man did it" shows [AKA Law and Order franchise] because no matter what story line or plot mechanism is employed by the writers in the end it's always the "Evil White Man did it".


30 posted on 11/17/2005 7:17:32 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba; onyx; veronica; Howlin; All

I searched for a Law & Order thread so I wouldn't have to start one. Today, on A&E, there is a Law & Order Marathon. I've been watching for several hours and I've just AMAZED at how bad this show is...the acting...the self-righteous, holier-than-thou writing! It's atrocious. How on Earth has this show stayed on the air so long. It's almost laughable. Anyone else agree????


31 posted on 01/01/2006 7:02:37 PM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: Hildy

L&O has got to be written by lawyers. I know a lawyer who's into Law & Order quite a bit, and sometimes he's self-righteous. It wouldn't be so bothersome if it weren't so ... selective. I'm not much of a social conservative, but it's bothersome when he tosses out all the "socially aware" and "good of society" stuff out the window when it comes to many social issues.


32 posted on 01/01/2006 9:01:16 PM PST by Seamoth (Be a FR Folder! http://folding.stanford.edu team# 36120. For more info, search FR keyword: folding)
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To: Jacob Kell

Well if you did not like that episode of Law and Order then you probably will not care much for their (NBC's) new "drama" called Book of Daniel, but whatever you do don't suggest a boycott of their sponsors that might produce results and only liberals are allowed to use those kinds of tactics.


33 posted on 01/01/2006 9:15:54 PM PST by justaguywithaspellchecker
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To: Hildy

It was good in the beginning, when Michael Moriarty was on. The original cast was great. Chris Noth, etc. There are only so many changes a show can go through and stay fresh, I find.


34 posted on 01/02/2006 6:06:39 AM PST by veronica (....."send Congressman Murtha a message: that cowards cut and run, Marines never do.")
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To: wvobiwan; Hildy
Minutemen, only guilty on TV!

I watched Spielberg's War of the Worlds yesterday. They could not resist the temptation to take a swipe at Bush (delivered by Tim Robbins character OF COURSE.) A couple of lines about "the occupation." Think Iraq wink wink. It was a very poorly constructed movie IMO. Spielberg has lost his touch. That aside, liberal drivel messages delivered in movies and TV should not surprise anyone.

35 posted on 01/02/2006 6:13:31 AM PST by veronica (....."send Congressman Murtha a message: that cowards cut and run, Marines never do.")
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To: veronica

I saw WOTW when it first came out. I actually went to the theater. It was just silly, IMHO. As you know, I will never see another Spielberg film again. Did you read that article Drudge has on his website, from the Hollywood Reporter, I believe. Prime example of the mindset in Hollywood...that they know it all and we out here are just mere morons who don't appreciate the genius that is Hollywood! It was hysterical. Maybe someone posted it...I'll ping you if I find it.


36 posted on 01/02/2006 6:56:44 AM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: gunnedah

Boycott liberal shows. It's the only way...


37 posted on 01/02/2006 7:23:26 AM PST by GOPJ (Happy New Year!)
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To: GOPJ
I have always liked Law and Order but recently they seem to have a political agenda. It seems as though every other show is about Homosexuality or something of a propaganda driven agenda. It is probably trying to get America accustomed to accepting those things the Liberal Left and ACLU espouses. No more Law and Order and it is one of the few shows I watch on ABC,CBS or NBC.
38 posted on 01/02/2006 8:14:14 AM PST by gunnedah
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