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Victor Davis Hanson: War & Reconstruction. For Bush’s critics, even hindsight is cloudy.
NRO ^ | November 18, 2005 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 11/18/2005 6:48:19 AM PST by Tolik

        Fair-weather war supporters forget their own history.

This is the mantra of the extreme Left: "Bush lied, thousands died." A softer version from politicians now often follows: "If I knew then what I know now, I would never have supported the war."

These sentiments are intellectually dishonest and morally reprehensible for a variety of reasons beyond the obvious consideration that you do not hang out to dry some 150,000 brave Americans on the field of battle while you in-fight over whether they should have ever been sent there in the first place.

Consider the now exasperating (and tired) argument that almost anyone who looked at the intelligence data shared the same opinion about the threat of weapons of mass destruction — former presidents, U.S. congressmen, foreign governments, Iraqi exiles, and numerous intelligence organizations.

The prewar speeches of aJay Rockefeller and Hillary Clinton sparked and sizzled with somber warnings about biological and chemical arsenals — and, yes, nuclear threats growing on the horizon. Politicians voted for war at a time of post-9/11 furor and fear, when anthrax was thought to have been scattered in our major cities and the hysteria over its traces evacuated government buildings. In response, the Democrats beat their breasts to prove that they could out-macho the "smoke-em-out" and "dead-or-alive" president in laying out the case against Saddam Hussein, especially after the successful removal of the Taliban.

To argue recently, as Howard Dean has, that the president somehow had even more intelligence data or additional information beyond what was given to the Senate Intelligence Committee can make the opposite argument from what was intended- the dangers seemed even greater the more files one read attesting to Saddam's past history, clear intent, formidable financial resources, and fury at the United States. If the Dean notion is that the president had mysterious auxiliary information, then the case was probably even stronger for war, since no one has yet produced any stealth document that (a) warned there was no WMDs, and (b) was knowingly withheld from the Congress.

A bewildered visitor from Mars would tell Washingtonians something like: "For twelve years you occupied Saddam's airspace, since he refused to abide by the peace accords and you were afraid that he would activate his WMD arsenal again against the Kurds or his neighbors. Now that he is gone and for the first time you can confirm that his weapons program is finally defunct, you are mad about this new precedent that you have established: Given the gravity of WMD arsenals, the onus is now on suspect rogue nations to prove that they do not have weapons of mass destruction, rather than for civilization to establish beyond a responsible doubt that they do?"

Even more importantly, the U.S. Senate voted to authorize the removal of Saddam Hussein for 22 reasons other than just his possession of dangerous weapons. We seem to have forgotten that entirely.

If the Bush administration erred in privileging the dangers of Iraqi WMDs, then the Congress in its wisdom used a far broader approach (as Sen. Robert Byrd complained at the time), and went well beyond George Bush in making a more far-reaching case for war — genocide, violation of U.N. agreements, breaking of the 1991 armistice accords, attempts to kill a former U.S. president, and firing on American aerial patrols. It was the U.S. Senate — a majority of Democrats included — not Paul Wolfowitz, that legislated a war to reform and restore the wider Middle East: "...whereas it is in the national security of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region".

So read the senators' October 2002 resolution. It is a model of sobriety and judiciousness in authorizing a war. There are facts cited such as the violation of agreements; moral considerations such as genocide; real worries about al Qaeda's ties to Saddam (e.g., "...whereas members of al-Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq"); fears of terrorism (" ...whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens."

No doubt many Democrats in the Senate who voted to authorize the war took their cue from Bill Clinton's own November 1998 indictment of bin Laden (still, how does one indict an enemy that has declared war on you?) that explicitly stressed the connection between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein: "In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq."

Thus the honest and moral argument for the now contrite would be something like: "I know now that Saddam did not try to kill a former president, did not commit genocide, did not attack four of his neighbors, did not harbor anti-American terrorists, did not ignore U.N. and 1991 peace accords, and did not attack Americans enforcing U.N.-mandated no-fly zones — and so I regret my vote."

Or if the former supporters of the war had character, they would be more honest still: "Yes, Saddam was guilty of those other 22 writs, but none of them justified the war that I voted for, and I should not have included them in the resolution."

Or they could be more truthful still: "I didn't really want a war, and only threw in the bit about al Qaeda and Saddam. So I just voted for the authorization in case some crisis emerged and the President had to act swiftly."

I doubt any will ever say, "I voted to cover myself: If the war proved swift and relatively low-cost like Bosnia or Afghanistan, I was on record for it; if it got bad like Mogadishu or Lebanon, then I wasn't the commander-in-chief who conducted it."

Given such an incriminating record, what then is really at the heart of the current strange congressional hysteria?

Simple — the tragic loss of nearly 2,100 Americans in Iraq.

The "my perfect war, your messy postbellum reconstruction" crowd is now huge and unapologetic. It encompasses not just leftists who once jumped on the war bandwagon in fears that Democrats would be tarred as weak on national security (a legitimate worry), but also many saber-rattling conservatives and Republicans — including those (the most shameful of all) who had in earlier times both sent letters to President Clinton and Bush demanding the removal of Saddam and now damn their commander-in-chief for taking them at their own word.

In the triumphalism after seeing Milosevic go down without a single American death, the Taliban implode at very little cost, and Saddam removed from power with little more than 100 fatalities, there was the assumption that the United States could simply nod and dictators would quail and democracy would follow. Had we lost 100 in birthing democracy and not 2,000, or seen purple fingers only and not IEDs on Dan Rather's nightly broadcasts, today's critics would be arguing over who first thought up the idea of removing Saddam and implementing democratic changes.

So without our 2,100 losses, nearly all the present critics would be either silent or grandstanding their support — in the manner that three quarters of the American population who polled that they were in favor of the war once they saw the statue of Saddam fall.

In short, there is no issue of WMD other than finding out why our intelligence people who had once missed it in the First Gulf War, then hyped it in the next-or what actually happened to all the unaccounted for vials and stockpiles that the U.N. inspectors swore were once inside Iraq.

So the real crux is a real legitimate debate over whether our ongoing costs-billions spent, thousands wounded, nearly 2,100 American soldiers lost-will be worth the results achieved. Post facto, no death seems "worth it". The premature end of life is tangible and horrendous in a way that the object of such soldiers' sacrifices-a reformed Middle East, a safer world, enhanced American safety, and freedom for 26 million-seems remote and abstract.

Nevertheless, that is what our soldiers died for: a world in which Middle East dictators no longer murder their own, ruin their won societies, and then cynically use terrorism to whip up the Arab street and deflect their own self-induced miseries onto the United States. This is the calculus that led to 9/11, and the reason why Saddam gave sanctuary to 1980s terrorists, the killer Yasin who failed in his first attempt to take down the twin towers, and the likes of Zarqawi.

While the U.S. military conducts a brilliant campaign to implement democratic reform that is on the eve of ending with an Iraqi parliament, while there has been no repeat of promised 9/11 attacks here at home, and while the entire dictatorial Middle East from Lebanon and Syria to Egypt and Libya is in crisis — baffled, furious, or impressed by a now idealistic United States pushing for something different and far better — our intellectual and political elite harp on "WMD, WMD, WMD..."

Sadder still, they stay transfixed to this refrain either because polls show that it is good politics or it allows them a viable exit from an apparently now unpopular war.

But no, not so fast.

History has other lessons as well — as we know from the similar public depression during successful wars after Washington's sad winter at Valley Forge, Lincoln's summer of 1864, or the 1942 gloom that followed Pearl Harbor and the fall of the Philippines, Singapore, and Wake Island. When this is all over, and there is a legitimate government in the Middle East that represents the aspirations of a free people, the stunning achievement of our soldiers will be at last recognized, the idealism of the United States will be appreciated, our critics here and abroad will go mute — and one of the 23 writs for a necessary war of liberation will largely be forgotten.

Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. His latest book is A War Like No Other. How the Athenians and Spartans Fought the Peloponnesian War.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; vdh; victordavishanson; victoronwar

1 posted on 11/18/2005 6:48:21 AM PST by Tolik
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To: neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...

    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

       Let me know if you want in or out.

Links: FR Index of his articles: 
His website:     NRO archive:

2 posted on 11/18/2005 6:49:16 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik
I guess the war's critics must have preferred "containment," so let's take a very quick look at containment.

Pre-War "containment" of Saddam failed more and more each day.

1. The oil-for-food program was corrupt
2. The weapons inspections were a farce
3. US and allied planes were targeted
4. Uninspected flights to Baghdad gutted the sanctions.
5. Terrorists were training in Iraq
6. Saddam brutalized our fellow human beings

My outline is sketchy, but I know most Freepers can fill in with the corroborating details

Saddam was thumbing his nose at decent people as he rewarded his collaborators

3 posted on 11/18/2005 6:58:57 AM PST by syriacus (Containment of pre-War Iraq didn't work. Uninspected flights were going into Bghdad.)
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To: Tolik

Thanks, Tolik. Awesome stuff.

My fear is: Who will listen, besides us?

4 posted on 11/18/2005 7:06:48 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (#1 Rule in Dealing with the Media, Democrats and Terrorists: Can't Please 'Em, so Don't Appease 'Em.)
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To: Tolik

Once a week a blast of sanity, shouts out.


5 posted on 11/18/2005 7:08:12 AM PST by crazycat
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To: rightinthemiddle

As Lincoln once said,'I I do not control events, events control me." But it is also true that perception is reality. If there is a successful election in Decemberm the mSM will seize upon any pretext to show that the new government is not legitimate, that it is our puppet or that the Iranians have too much influence or that the Iraiqs cannot get their act together. Many scripts are now being written. Never mind that the Germans can't make a functioning government or that the French can't control their country, that free government is often a mess. No, they MUST prove that the whole enterprise is a failure. Otherwise, the Democrats have no chance of winning in 2006.

6 posted on 11/18/2005 7:28:58 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: syriacus
Good job, syriacus.

I hear that "containment" crudola all the time from leftist acquaintances. Will bookmark this. Ping if you have more thoughts on the subject.
7 posted on 11/18/2005 7:30:47 AM PST by A message
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To: RobbyS

Perception is never reality. Perception is only how people are reacting to reality.

If I could push a button to get rid of a phrase, that would be high on the list.

The first phrase I would do is: "There are no absolutes".

8 posted on 11/18/2005 7:37:28 AM PST by Netheron
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To: rightinthemiddle

You got to tell people. Friends, co-workers, family....etc.
In this war it's one of the ways we can contribute. I'm always amazed at how little people know about the why & how we are fighting this war, abd what they do know is wrong.

9 posted on 11/18/2005 9:35:28 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: Tolik


10 posted on 11/18/2005 9:51:03 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Tolik
The critics seem to forget Iraq is now holding its third round of free elections - this time for a permanent government - under conditions less than auspicious for the emergence of a free society. Instead of standing behind the people of Iraq and our brave soldiers helping them to defend their right to choose their own leaders at the ballot box, the Democrats and a not inconsiderable number of weak-kneed Republicans want us to cut and run. We're on the verge of victory and for the price of one day's casualties in the World II European theater, they want America to surrender to Al Qaeda. Whatever happened to our remembrance of 9/11 and never again. Seriously, does any one still care what happened four years ago?

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

11 posted on 11/18/2005 3:33:40 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: A message

Thanks, A message, for the kind words.

12 posted on 11/18/2005 4:06:58 PM PST by syriacus (Containment of pre-War Iraq didn't work. Uninspected flights were going into Bghdad.)
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To: A message; Prost1
A message wrote: Ping if you have more thoughts on the subject.

Prost1 had a thought at post #38 on the thread Kerry: 'Let Iraqi's stand up for Iraq' [Or... 'Let'em rot!]

Add to your list that Saddam was EXPORTING TERRORISM!
He was paying the family of suicide bombers $25,000!

13 posted on 11/19/2005 5:31:55 PM PST by syriacus (I'll take our success at liberating Iraq, over the "world community's" success at containing Saddam.)
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To: goldstategop
Whatever happened to our remembrance of 9/11 and never again. Seriously, does any one still care what happened four years ago? 9/11 has been erased from the institutional memory of the left.

If it could ever be spun so as to produce votes for the Democrats, the MSM would be rubbing our noses in it -- 24/7.

14 posted on 11/19/2005 5:55:30 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Tolik

"read the senators' October 2002 resolution."

15 posted on 11/19/2005 6:00:55 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: syriacus

Thats right


16 posted on 11/19/2005 6:14:20 PM PST by A message
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To: Tolik

Please add me to your ping list. THANKS!

17 posted on 11/19/2005 6:24:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Tolik
I've been going back and reading a lot of VDH columns and have recently bought his current books that are out.

This fellow is dead on target.

18 posted on 11/19/2005 6:32:14 PM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: Tolik
Intellectual dishonesty and moral reprehensibility are standard behavior of the Left.

"History has other lessons as well — "

Yes. And if anyone understands them and can explain them, it is Victor Davis Hanson.

A War Like No Other is excellent.

19 posted on 11/20/2005 7:48:43 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Oprah: The light that shines so gently on those who need it most." ~Sidney Poitier)
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