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Exhibit on Darwin creates Bush bash at museum gala
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Posted on 11/18/2005 8:56:01 AM PST by slowhand520

Exhibit on Darwin creates Bush bash at museum gala

It was supposed to be a fund-raiser for the American Museum of Natural History. But a new exhibit on Charles Darwin caused the Wednesday evening gala to evolve into something of a rally against President Bush's preferred theory of intelligent design. "This is a time when those of us who care about science and Darwin have to take a stand," museum patron Tom Brokaw told the black-tied and bejeweled species, including Caroline Kennedy, Princess Firyal of Jordan, Viacom big shot Tom Freston, Michael Eisner, Eva Longoria, Jimmy Buffett, Jonathan Demme, Nora Ephron, Brian Williams, Lorne Michaels and most of the "Saturday Night Live" cast.

Clearly aware that Bush favors teaching creationism alongside evolution in science classes, the museum's patrons erupted in applause.

Brokaw reminded us later that the exhibit, which opens tomorrow, is "about Darwin's life and how he came to these conclusions. We aren't looking to pick a fight."

But, he added, the exhibit "doesn't attempt to argue the theory of evolution — because there is no argument."

"Daily Show" anchor Jon Stewart marveled at the museum's collection of specimens demonstrating Darwin's discoveries.

"It just makes you wonder," deadpanned Stewart. "Why is Jesus trying to trick us?

"I do wish George Bush would start paying attention to issues that are important for the country," Stewart went on. "Gay marriage, for instance. I don't understand why the religious right fears homosexuality. They say it's an abomination. The Bible says that shellfish are also an abomination. … They who oppose sodomy must also oppose scallops."

Stewart introduced Neil Young. Along with singing his hits, the venerable rocker sat down at an antique organ and performed "When God Made Me," his challenge to fundamentalism.

Young agreed that the Darwin show "couldn't come at a better time, with what's going on with the neocons."

He allowed that Bush might truly believe in Genesis and not be pandering to the evangelicals. "I've never met him," he told us. "I've seen some of the things he does, but I'm not sure."


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1 posted on 11/18/2005 8:56:03 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520
"It just makes you wonder," deadpanned Stewart. "Why is Jesus trying to trick us?

You're going to be in for one hell of a shock, fella.
2 posted on 11/18/2005 8:57:48 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: slowhand520

The intellectual tidepool from whence these enlightened folks arose from is scant millimeters deep at best.

It probably explains their unique ability to fall for any theory readily and swallow it without question.


3 posted on 11/18/2005 8:58:58 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: slowhand520

Has the President ever even said a word about ID?


4 posted on 11/18/2005 8:59:06 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: slowhand520
something of a rally against President Bush's preferred theory of intelligent design.

Is that the case actually? I thought he favored ID being taught in schools, I didn't know it was his preferred theory.

5 posted on 11/18/2005 8:59:08 AM PST by Paradox (Just because we are not perfect, does not mean we are not good.)
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To: slowhand520

"Gay marriage, for instance. I don't understand why the religious right fears homosexuality."

Why do homosexual perverts fear the religious right?


6 posted on 11/18/2005 8:59:24 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
Even more intersting, why do they think we fear them?

susie

7 posted on 11/18/2005 9:00:51 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: slowhand520
I don't understand why the religious right fears homosexuality. They say it's an abomination. The Bible says that shellfish are also an abomination. … They who oppose sodomy must also oppose scallops.

We are all sinners. Doesn't justify our sins.

Sodomy gets its name from the tale of Sodom and Gommorah.

What act is named for eating shellfish?

8 posted on 11/18/2005 9:01:19 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: slowhand520
"I do wish George Bush would start paying attention to issues that are important for the country," Stewart went on. "Gay marriage, for instance. I don't understand why the religious right fears homosexuality. They say it's an abomination. The Bible says that shellfish are also an abomination. … They who oppose sodomy must also oppose scallops."

Jon Stewart is soooo not as smart as he thinks he is. In the New Testament, in Acts 10, dietary restrictions are explicitly lifted. There is, nowhere in the Bible, a similar lifting of restrictions against homosexuality.

I understand that Stewart is attempting humor, but his schtick is that he's a funny guy with a serious point to make. In fact, he's neither funny, nor does he have anything serious to say.

9 posted on 11/18/2005 9:02:05 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood (left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Isn't Jon Stewart Jewish?

Then again I doubt he is faithful to the old testament either, judging from his remarks.


10 posted on 11/18/2005 9:03:38 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: slowhand520; an amused spectator
"... Tom Brokaw told the black-tied and bejeweled species, including Caroline Kennedy, Princess Firyal of Jordan, Viacom big shot Tom Freston, Michael Eisner, Eva Longoria, Jimmy Buffett, Jonathan Demme, Nora Ephron, Brian Williams, Lorne Michaels and most of the "Saturday Night Live" cast."

WHAT liberal media??? < /sarcasm >

11 posted on 11/18/2005 9:04:33 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: wideawake
I don't think so but anything remotely Christian is considered extreme right wing or Evangelical right. So that automatically must mean President Bush. These soulless communists can't even get the Neo-Con thing right. For Neil Young to call ID a Neocon thing just shows he didn't get the memo. To the left Neocon is code for "Jew". But they are the tolerant ones. I do believe that Bush's fly paper theory works perfectly here. Look how many commies they gathered at that gala.
12 posted on 11/18/2005 9:04:57 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: weegee
Yeah, I think Stewart is unobservantly Jewish, but his remark

"Why is Jesus trying to trick us?

suggests that he is using the term "religious right" as a code word for Christians.

Worth pointing out that many, perhaps most, observant Jews are as unenthused about homosexuality as the average Southern Baptist.

13 posted on 11/18/2005 9:08:58 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood (left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
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To: reagan_fanatic

What a bunch of crybabies.


14 posted on 11/18/2005 9:09:25 AM PST by Frenetic
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Mr Bush isnt paying attention to any important issue, like, let's say, terrorists trying to murder us!! (Sarcasm)

No surprise any celebrity filled event like this turns into a left wing political event. Speaking of museum exhibits also, I would like to know why the Smithsonian's American History Museum is prominently featuring the book of Bushisms, or whatever it's called, in its gift shops. Since when is the Smithsonian supposed to be selling partisan "satire" like that?!


15 posted on 11/18/2005 9:11:08 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: NormsRevenge

Why don't the Hollywood elite ever mock the space fantasy beliefs of the Scientologists?

Only reason they don't push to "teach" the origins of man in schools is that L Ron Hubbard's cult gets $10,000 to sell you the sci-fi tale on the installment plan. In short, aliens brought these negative traits to earth and we are reincarnated.

But no, the leftists mock Jesus and Christians because it is "safe". Just alert me when they propose a new tv reality show throwing Christians to the lions.


16 posted on 11/18/2005 9:11:15 AM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: weegee
Why don't the Hollywood elite ever mock the space fantasy beliefs of the Scientologists?

Because they would be "soooo sued."

17 posted on 11/18/2005 9:12:51 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: weegee
What act is named for eating shellfish?

Shellfishness. *rim shot*

18 posted on 11/18/2005 9:14:22 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: TNCMAXQ

The Smithsonian has been way left for a long, long time. For a look at the tip of the iceberg, go to

http://www.folklife.si.edu/center/Archives/archives_Paredon.html


19 posted on 11/18/2005 9:15:45 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood (left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
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To: slowhand520
Tom Brokaw told the black-tied and bejeweled species, including Caroline Kennedy, Princess Firyal of Jordan ...

Sounds like a real elitist snobapalooza.

20 posted on 11/18/2005 9:17:14 AM PST by manwiththehands
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To: slowhand520

The best argument against the theory of evolution is its supporters.


21 posted on 11/18/2005 9:18:15 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Stalkfest 2005 Part Deux: A Turkey Camps Out With Pigs.)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
"I do wish George Bush would start paying attention to issues that are important for the country," Stewart went on. "Gay marriage, for instance. I don't understand why the religious right fears homosexuality. They say it's an abomination. The Bible says that shellfish are also an abomination. … They who oppose sodomy must also oppose scallops."

Jon, bubbeleh, both those things are not kosher!

22 posted on 11/18/2005 9:19:22 AM PST by hedgie
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To: slowhand520
museum patron Tom Brokaw told the black-tied and bejeweled species, including Caroline Kennedy, Princess Firyal of Jordan, Viacom big shot Tom Freston, Michael Eisner, Eva Longoria, Jimmy Buffett, Jonathan Demme, Nora Ephron, Brian Williams, Lorne Michaels and most of the "Saturday Night Live" cast.

The very pillars of the scientific community ... LOL !!!

23 posted on 11/18/2005 9:19:25 AM PST by dartuser (Drugs and alcohol are for those that cannot do mathematics.)
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To: slowhand520
"This is a time when those of us who care about science and Darwin
have to take a stand," museum patron Tom Brokaw told the black-tied
and bejeweled species


Interesting...I bet Darwin is spinning in his grave at the thought that
the vocally-challenged Tom Brokaw is "Darwin's Bulldog" of this era.
24 posted on 11/18/2005 9:19:59 AM PST by VOA
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To: slowhand520
 
Young agreed that the Darwin show "couldn't come at a better time, with what's going on with the neocons."

I love it when morons like this open their mouths and show their ignorance. He obviously doesn't know what a NeoCon is.

 

 

25 posted on 11/18/2005 9:21:23 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Facts are neither debatable nor open to "I have a right to this opinion" nonsense.)
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To: slowhand520
They say it's an abomination. The Bible says that shellfish are also an abomination. … They who oppose sodomy must also oppose scallops."

The Bible also says that murder is an abomination. So do those that think scallops and sodomy are ok also think murders ok?

26 posted on 11/18/2005 9:21:41 AM PST by tophat9000 (lose 3000 in an hour and you want to fight, lose 2000 in 2 years and you want to run !???)
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To: reagan_fanatic

'Jon Stewart' another liberal Peter Pan: 43 year old teenager
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stewart


27 posted on 11/18/2005 9:21:51 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

I suppose I should have complained to the gift shop staff but it must be beyond their responsibility. Really angered me though to see this book (or maybe it was a calendar, I don't quite remember) had a refernce to the British newspaper asking "how can 59 million Americans be so dumb?" It added that these quotes from GWB shed some light on that question. In other words the elitist Bush bashers are so much smarter than the 62 million of us poor unwashed masses. I was really annoyed.


28 posted on 11/18/2005 9:22:20 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: slowhand520
I have two questions for these liberals:

1. How could evolution and natural selection produce homosexuals who cannot propagate the species?

2. Isn't natural selection among humans perverted by 50 million abortions?

29 posted on 11/18/2005 9:22:37 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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To: TNCMAXQ

This isn't the Smithsonian, it's the American Museum of Natural History in New York City. I am a member and this month's magazine is filled with liberal tripe about Darwin.


30 posted on 11/18/2005 9:24:21 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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To: slowhand520

Frankly, Jon Stewart's supposed humor escapes me. Anyway, if he is of the mind that homosexuality is nothing to be concerned about then I guess he would have no problem with a NAMBLA member "recruiting" his son (if he has one). If the problem is just age then I guess he would have no problem with some run-of-the-mill fag hitting on his 18 year old son.


31 posted on 11/18/2005 9:24:54 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Inwoodian
jon Stewart's popularity came when he scolded pseudo conservative Tucker Carlson. Since then he has been something of a folk hero to the left
32 posted on 11/18/2005 9:27:48 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520

Nothing but a mutual admiration society conducting a liberlists circle-jerk.

If I had a dollar for every IQ point of these people, I'd have like, 500 bucks.


33 posted on 11/18/2005 9:30:10 AM PST by subterfuge (Obama, mo mama...er Osama-La bamba, uh, Bama...Banana Rama...URP!---Ted Kennedy)
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To: slowhand520; gobucks; mikeus_maximus; MeanWestTexan; JudyB1938; isaiah55version11_0; bondserv; ...
(((Creationist Ping)))



You have been pinged because of your interest regarding matters of Creation vs. Evolution - from the Creationist perspective. Freep-mail me if you want on/off this list.

Colossians 1:16 "For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him."



Don't tell this to any of the frevolutionists who believe that creationism isn't conservative. It's bad PR. For them.
34 posted on 11/18/2005 9:30:19 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Celebrating my first full year on FR! Has it been one year already?? Has it only been one year??)
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To: slowhand520

ID is not in conflict with the theory of evolution.

""This is a time when those of us who care about science and Darwin have to take a stand," museum patron Tom Brokaw told the black-tied and bejeweled species"

This is a time where those of us who care about honesty and integrity need to take a stand against liars who constantly try to spin the facts.


35 posted on 11/18/2005 9:30:30 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: Elsie; AndrewC; jennyp; lockeliberty; RadioAstronomer; LiteKeeper; Fester Chugabrew; ...

Ping to: Unfortunate Associations.


36 posted on 11/18/2005 9:38:46 AM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. )
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To: Frenetic; doc30; DoctorMichael; PatrickHenry
What a bunch of crybabies.

However, they are making the Republican Party out to be nothing more than a bunch of uneducated theocratic bent morons. I am afraid they are succeeding. :-(

37 posted on 11/18/2005 9:45:50 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Here's some CreationSafaris commentary on the Museum:

Museums Train Docents to Deal with Evolution Skeptics

Museums Train Docents to Deal with Evolution Skeptics    09/22/2005  
Being a museum docent wasn’t supposed to be this hard.  Many have always led peaceful groups of compliant tourists through the halls of science, telling their near-memorized lines without incident: Sixty million years ago, the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteor, but their descendants are still with us today.  Anyone know who those might be?  Yes Johnny?  Birds!  That’s correct. Very good!  Now, according to the New York Times, growing numbers of museum visitors are challenging the evolutionary explanations and asking questions that indicate they’re not buying the story.  This has led to a new “cottage industry,” according to Eugenie Scott of the NCSE, of training guides for guides, teaching them how to deal with such situations.
    The training emphasizes non-confrontational yet firm emphasis on the difference between science and faith: to be “polite but firm.”  Docents are warned against challenging visitors’ religious beliefs directly.  Instead, they are told to say things like, “The landscape tells a story based on geological events, based on science,” or “this is a science museum, and we deal with matters of science.”  They are warned against antagonizing Bible-believing Christians who argue that the world is only a few thousand years old; after all, they paid the admission fee and have just as much right to visit the museum as anyone else.  Dr. Scott in her sessions teaches docents not to avoid the word “evolution” or be defensive, but simultaneously not to slam the door in the face of believers.  “Your job is to help them, to explain your point of view, but respect theirs.”  The manuals encourage them to practice with memorized responses.
    Tom Magnuson at Access Research Network found one such docent guide online on the front page of the Paleontological Research Institution, entitled “Evolution and Creationism: A Guide for Museum Docents.”  It explains how to respond to a complaints about natural selection or other evolutionary mechanisms:

The question of whether evolution occurs is separate and different from the question of how evolution occurs.  The evidence is overwhelming that evolution has occurred – that it is a satisfactory explanation for the observations we make about the history, order, and diversity of life....
    Questions or debates about evolutionary mechanism have nothing to do with our confidence in whether evolution occurred.
  (Italics in original, bold added.)
Later in the document, one of the answers seems more firm than polite.  The question is, Is it true there is lots of evidence against evolution? 
No.  Essentially all available data and observations from the natural world support the hypothesis of evolution.  No serious biologist or geologist today doubts whether evolution occurred; debate continues, however, among scientists about the mechanisms by which evolution occurred.
The response to the question on intelligent design is also instructive.  Doesn’t the complexity/design of nature imply an intelligent designer?
Science deals only with material causes of material phenomena.  Nothing we can observe in nature requires a supernatural designer; we therefore defer to material processes to explain what we see in nature.
The document denounces the idea that evolution is a religion.  At the bottom, it refers to the National Center for Science Education, indicating that the NCSE probably provided content or advice for the publication.
    The guide warns against arguing with convinced creationists, saying “you can’t win.”  The docent can try to deflect the question, agree to disagree, claim ignorance, or state that the museum is not the place to discuss “philosophy, religion or politics” but only “science” or “state-of-the-art scientific knowledge.”  If all else fails, the docent can say, “Please excuse me.  I have to go to the restroom.”
    The Times says that the American Museum of Natural History is about to open “the most in-depth exhibition ever” of Darwin and his work.  Already, curators and staff are gearing up to deal with visitors who will challenge the presentations. <

There is more commentary from the editor of Creation Safaris in the link; look for the green text.

38 posted on 11/18/2005 9:46:21 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory. Lots of links on my homepage...)
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To: slowhand520

>>The Bible says that shellfish are also an abomination. … They who oppose sodomy must also oppose scallops."<<

Exhibit A that the person making this claim has ZERO knowledge of Biblical precepts.

There was a difference between Hebrew dietary & civil laws, and the moral laws of God. Christ's sacrifice fulfilled the old laws requirements with regard to civil & ceremonial aspects. However, the moral law stands, and always will.

I am sick unto death of idiot leftists continuing to make this ridiculous shellfish "argument" about Biblical law.


39 posted on 11/18/2005 9:46:26 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow (Aslan is on the move...)
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To: wideawake
Has the President ever even said a word about ID?

He said something about it, in passing, within the past couple of months. I don't recall the exact details.

Be that as it may, what's interesting to me is how things like this tend to show how very thin the line is between scientific questions and completely non-scientific leftist political and religious (or atheist) agendas.

One begins to wonder when our esteemed FReeper evolutionists will admit that they're scratching at leftist fleas.

(FWIW, I find many of the religious folks on the other side of the debate to be uncomfortably itchy as well....)

40 posted on 11/18/2005 9:55:21 AM PST by r9etb
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To: TNCMAXQ

The UK paper in question was the Daily Mirror.


41 posted on 11/18/2005 9:58:10 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: tophat9000

Well, they do think murder is OK if the person being killed doesn't have a birth certificate yet, or has undergone serious brain damage so there's no "quality of life" left.


42 posted on 11/18/2005 9:58:57 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: slowhand520
"I do wish George Bush would start paying attention to issues that are important for the country," Stewart went on. "Gay marriage, for instance. I don't understand why the religious right fears homosexuality. They say it's an abomination. The Bible says that shellfish are also an abomination. … They who oppose sodomy must also oppose scallops."

***************

Liberals insist on stating and restating that the issue is a "fear" of homosexuality. Since they approach the issue with such an elemental misunderstanding, it should not be surprising that they so completely misjudge it.

43 posted on 11/18/2005 10:03:40 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: slowhand520
But a new exhibit on Charles Darwin caused the Wednesday evening gala to evolve into something of a rally against President Bush's preferred theory of intelligent design. "This is a time when those of us who care about science and Darwin have to take a stand," museum patron Tom Brokaw told the black-tied and bejeweled species, including Caroline Kennedy, Princess Firyal of Jordan, Viacom big shot Tom Freston, Michael Eisner, Eva Longoria, Jimmy Buffett, Jonathan Demme, Nora Ephron, Brian Williams, Lorne Michaels and most of the "Saturday Night Live" cast.

Looking at the guest list, I'm pretty sure they would have bashed Bush no matter what the topic was ...

44 posted on 11/18/2005 10:04:30 AM PST by bobhoskins (?)
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To: weegee
Sodomy gets its name from the tale of Sodom and Gommorah.

What act is named for eating shellfish?

That would be, of course, the much lesser known "Gommorahy".

45 posted on 11/18/2005 10:06:06 AM PST by bobhoskins (?)
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To: Stingy Dog
The atheist, materialist evolutionistoids are moreover afraid of losing their government grants if their Darwinism dogma is challenged.

How so? They would just have to change a few words to state how their research backs up or refutes ID, instead of TOE, and continue on with the research ...

48 posted on 11/18/2005 10:22:38 AM PST by bobhoskins (?)
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To: weegee
What act is named for eating shellfish?

shelfishness.

49 posted on 11/18/2005 10:25:02 AM PST by donh
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To: Dems_R_Losers
1. How could evolution and natural selection produce homosexuals who cannot propagate the species?

How come evolution and natural selection produces grandparents, who are well beyond their breeding years, but are hanging around sucking up resources their grandchildren could use?

2. Isn't natural selection among humans perverted by 50 million abortions?

Yes...it is "perverted" by favoring the existence of wanted offspring of intact, two-parent homes where new babies do not represent a significant added economic burden. Sounds pretty awful, doesn't it?

50 posted on 11/18/2005 10:35:54 AM PST by donh
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