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House Debate on Murtha Proposal (OH Rep Jean Schmidt "cowards cut and run, Marines never do.")
AP ^ | 11/18/2005 6:12:20 PM | AP

Posted on 11/18/2005 5:12:51 PM PST by Former Military Chick

CAPITOL HILL (AP) -- There's been heated debate on the House floor regarding a GOP effort to force a vote on Congressman John Murtha's call for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq.

Democrats charge the effort is a cheap political stunt and a personal attack.

Instead of offering Murtha's resolution, Republicans plan to reject a similarly worded resolution offered by one of their own to show support for US troops.

Democrats say that's a "counterfeit" resolution, charging it guts Murtha's thoughtful approach to the situation.

The fiery, emotional debate climaxed when Ohio Congresswoman Jean Schmidt, who is the lowest in seniority, recounted a message a Marine colonel wanted to send to Murtha.

She said he told her that "cowards cut and run, Marines never do."

Democrats booed and shouted her down, bringing the House to a standstill.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2french; jeanschmidt; murtha; surrender; whiteflag
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Go get them!!! She has moxy for sure.
1 posted on 11/18/2005 5:12:53 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: No Longer Free State

PING


2 posted on 11/18/2005 5:13:13 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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Listening to them say they do not agree but try and avoid the vote ... speaks volumes.

Schmidt has spirit for sure ....


3 posted on 11/18/2005 5:14:01 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Democrats say that's a "counterfeit" resolution, charging it guts Murtha's thoughtful approach to the situation.

So vote against it.

4 posted on 11/18/2005 5:14:03 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Former Military Chick
She said he told her that "cowards cut and run, Marines never do."

Democrats booed and shouted her down, bringing the House to a standstill.

5 posted on 11/18/2005 5:14:51 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Former Military Chick

HAHA! Her remarks were stricken from the congressional record, but they are definitely in the public record now.


6 posted on 11/18/2005 5:14:53 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances and it advances relentlessly freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: No Longer Free State

Barrett (R-SC) gave an excellent address as well.


7 posted on 11/18/2005 5:15:10 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

now that's what I'm talkin' about...


8 posted on 11/18/2005 5:15:41 PM PST by nicko (CW3 (ret.) CPT, you need to just unass the AO; I know what I'm doing- Major, you're on your own.)
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To: Brett66

Yes, they said it was because she was new that she errored but it is like going to court once you ring the bell whether sticken or not it was said and heard and in her case will be on many news wires in the next few hours.

The search did not come up with much yet.


9 posted on 11/18/2005 5:16:17 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

"She said he told her that "cowards cut and run, Marines never do.""

Hmm... she's got more balls than most of the men in the Hill. And, she probably just got herself targeted by the left, and the darling of the Right.

Schmidt for POTUS!


10 posted on 11/18/2005 5:16:32 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: nicko

I hope that indeed her words are carried by many news paper's.


11 posted on 11/18/2005 5:17:22 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

It's about bloody time.


12 posted on 11/18/2005 5:17:34 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Brilliant

Pelosi has actually called for the Dems to vote against it for precisely that reason... but really, to give the Dems cover and avoid having the vote actually pinned on them. Essentially, "I voted for it before I voted against it" on a much larger scale.


13 posted on 11/18/2005 5:17:53 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Yeah, they censured her but hey, that cat is out of the bag. The media never lets a great statement die and that was one great statement.


14 posted on 11/18/2005 5:18:27 PM PST by OpusatFR (What's so threatening about my faith that you have to kill people for believing it? That it's true?)
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To: TSchmereL; GeorgiaDawg32; frankiep; txroadkill; Brilliant; BlueStateDepression; ...

For those following the latest on the Hill.

PING


15 posted on 11/18/2005 5:19:14 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Brilliant

If they vote against it, then they have to STFU with all this bad-mouthing they're doing out on the street.

I want to see their corpses left for the carrion and their names blotted out forever.


16 posted on 11/18/2005 5:19:15 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Former Military Chick

why did they put up one of the own resolutions rather than Murtha's? I'm glad that the republicans are actually showing some spunk...but not sure the procedure on this


17 posted on 11/18/2005 5:19:16 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Former Military Chick

It's time for all gutless, spineless, French-whine-swilling surrender monkeys to stand up and be counted.


18 posted on 11/18/2005 5:19:18 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: Gordongekko909

Wow, how the wind changes the mood yesterday Pelosi has said that Murtha was entitled to his own words as if to stand far away for political reason's guess she is again changing her tune.


19 posted on 11/18/2005 5:20:31 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

The MSM will probably report that FAR RIGHT-WING RADICAL REPUBLICAN Jean Schmidt was asked to apologize for breaking House rules, but they won't give the details.


20 posted on 11/18/2005 5:20:57 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: No Longer Free State

With you on that one hon. They are doing their best to avoid the very thing that they have griped for.

Put up or shut up.


21 posted on 11/18/2005 5:21:47 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I don't understand the democrats sudden ratcheting up of thier desperation on this. It's like they're doing damage control for Zarqawis big screw up in Jordan.


22 posted on 11/18/2005 5:22:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: t2buckeye

I'm not sure, either, but a lot of FReepers are very enthusiastic about this...


23 posted on 11/18/2005 5:22:11 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newbie since June 4, 2004)
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To: All

Crowley (D-NY) says it is republican politics as usual -- I look forward to having them account for their actions/words.


24 posted on 11/18/2005 5:22:56 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Oh, brother, now the surrender monkeys are claiming we're questioning Murtha's patriotism. Name me one Repbulcian congressman who has done that?


25 posted on 11/18/2005 5:23:05 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: Former Military Chick

The Murtha of all Morons
26 posted on 11/18/2005 5:23:26 PM PST by etradervic (Able Danger, Peter Paul Campaign Fraud, Travelgate, Whitewater, Sandy Berger...demand answers!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Dims are preaching treason tonight


27 posted on 11/18/2005 5:24:01 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>)
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To: Former Military Chick

Will the papers report that if allowed to continue, US Military will guard the trial of Saddam? ... and hundreds if not thousands will tell their story about WMDs, mutilations, murders, and all...maybe the Dems want to cut and run to avoid the humiliation....just a matter of time


28 posted on 11/18/2005 5:25:43 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Former Military Chick

They were blasting this story bigtime on CNN earlier this evening. Ford (D-TN) was saying how she had no understanding of the etiquette of the Senate, etc.

But the point is...she was telling what one of her constituents wanted to be said... Do the Dems not care to hear from The People?


29 posted on 11/18/2005 5:26:05 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Kucinich, who was on the radio YESTERDAY calling for pulling out the troops today says he'll vote against the resolution calling for EXACTLY what he asked for.


30 posted on 11/18/2005 5:26:14 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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Rep. David Obey (R-WI)

Now beloved (No Longer Free State) asked a good question how did Obey get away with the same thing Schmidt did not get away with? He used the name of the member on the floor, where is his rebuke/punishment for not following the rules?

31 posted on 11/18/2005 5:26:25 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Kucinich needs a straight jacket, what a disgrace he is.


32 posted on 11/18/2005 5:27:30 PM PST by cynicom
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To: Former Military Chick

Kuchinch (sp) just blew a gasket


33 posted on 11/18/2005 5:27:48 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>)
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To: Former Military Chick

the truth hurts doesn't it---you filthy marxist traitors


34 posted on 11/18/2005 5:28:01 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (admittedly too unstable for public office)
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To: Former Military Chick

'bout time. Get up on your hind legs, gal !


35 posted on 11/18/2005 5:28:03 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Former Military Chick

The most junior member of the House.

Good for her.


36 posted on 11/18/2005 5:28:08 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Bin Laden said America was a paper tiger, he was only 48% right. 48% vote Democrat)
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To: Gondring; No Longer Free State

I heard what Ford said, saying she was new and she is but she knows the rules and as I said she rang the bell.

Yes, I would think her voter's deserved to be heard and as such shared what he had to say ...

Been a while that the republican's have shown spirit and showed they wanted us to keep them in their job.


37 posted on 11/18/2005 5:28:23 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Good job, Candice Miller.


38 posted on 11/18/2005 5:28:29 PM PST by Jemian (Message to Murtha: ONLY COWARDS CUT AND RUN.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Those who refuse to support and defend a state have no claim to protection by that state. Killing an anarchist or a pacifist should not be defined as "murder" in a legalistic sense. The offense against the state, if any, should be "Using deadly weapons inside city limits," or "Creating a traffic hazard," or "Endangering bystanders," or other misdemeanor.

ROBERT HEINLEIN


39 posted on 11/18/2005 5:29:14 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Politics as usual hunh...

Attack the messenger time on the left, distract, deflect...

Act II - - Do the Honorable Gentlemen of the GOP have the balls to continue?

We will see....


40 posted on 11/18/2005 5:30:01 PM PST by OpusatFR (What's so threatening about my faith that you have to kill people for believing it? That it's true?)
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To: No Longer Free State

I am doing that. His job in the military was WASHING CARS.


41 posted on 11/18/2005 5:30:29 PM PST by Jemian (Message to Murtha: ONLY COWARDS CUT AND RUN.)
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To: Former Military Chick; All

She's my rep . . . GO JEANNIE!

[I spoke with Jean's legislative aid at 5 PM and he indicated that she was 'psyched' and ready to go! Remember, we (in Ohio's 2nd district) have lost MANY Marines/soldiers over the last two years and are home to the only Iraq MIA -- Matt Maupin. Overwhelmingly, the families of these toopers support their Commander in Chief and this war effort!!]


42 posted on 11/18/2005 5:30:33 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: etradervic

There has to be a prize for the BEST picture of the year. If there was, you should win.


43 posted on 11/18/2005 5:31:59 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
If they vote against it, then they have to STFU with all this bad-mouthing they're doing out on the street.

Never in a gazillion years will they STFU! Not until GWB is impeached, removed, and tried for war crimes!

44 posted on 11/18/2005 5:32:03 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: Former Military Chick

"...where is his rebuke/punishment for not following the rules?"

Must have something to do with the "Penal Code." *Smirk* ;)


45 posted on 11/18/2005 5:32:37 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Anyone have a video clip of Jean Schmidt's speech????


46 posted on 11/18/2005 5:34:17 PM PST by MilleniumBug
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To: Jemian

Murtha was an officer in the Marine Reserves who volunteered for Vietnam and earned two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star. Marines don't make awards lightly. At one point in his life he wasn't a surrender-monkey, and I'm not willing to call his patriotism into question. His judgement, on the other hand...


47 posted on 11/18/2005 5:34:59 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: Former Military Chick

Thanks for the ping.


48 posted on 11/18/2005 5:35:35 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: No Longer Free State; nitejohnboy
Here is Murtha's Professional Experience:
Marine Corps Reserve, 1967-1990
Small Business Owner/Operator, 1967-1978
Volunteer, United States Marine Corps, Vietnam War, 1966-1967
Colonel, United States Marine Corps, 1952-1955
Car Wash Owner/OperatorExperience:

Thanks Johnboy.

49 posted on 11/18/2005 5:35:47 PM PST by Jemian (Message to Murtha: ONLY COWARDS CUT AND RUN.)
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To: Jemian

Where, oh, where are the Rat Libs that represent parts of the country with lots of Jewish voters? The Israeli lobby knows what we are doing in Iraq is right and I think they got the word to them.


50 posted on 11/18/2005 5:37:17 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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