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GOP Lawmakers Float Ethics Probe of Murtha
Roll Call ^ | Friday, Nov. 18 | John Bresnahan

Posted on 11/18/2005 6:23:51 PM PST by pittsburgh gop guy

Republican lawmakers say that ties between Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) and his brother's lobbying firm, KSA Consulting, may warrant investigation by the House ethics committee...

According to a June 13 article in The Los Angeles Times, the fiscal 2005 defense appropriations bill included more than $20 million in funding for at least 10 companies for whom KSA lobbied. Carmen Scialabba, a longtime Murtha aide, works at KSA as well.

KSA directly lobbied Murtha's office on behalf of seven companies, and a Murtha aide told a defense contractor that it should retain KSA to represent it, according to the LA Times.

In early 2004, Murtha reportedly leaned on U.S. Navy officials to sign a contract to transfer the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. A company called Lennar Inc. had right to the land, and Laurence Pelosi, nephew to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was an executive with the firm at that time.

Murtha also inserted earmarks in defense bills that steered millions of dollars in federal research funds toward companies owned by children of fellow Pennsylvania Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D).

(Excerpt) Read more at rollcall.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 109th; carlrove; ethics; ksa; murtha; probe; sonofmuthralessgoat
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Thanks to KLO at NRO for picking this up.

While an investigation may be warranted, I think the timing is bad. Murtha is a Marine and has served his country, no doubt. BUT - he is wrong, and has been wrong on Iraq for a while.


See here for more on Murtha's brother and his firm:
Defense bill aids Murtha brother
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05165/521223.stm
1 posted on 11/18/2005 6:23:52 PM PST by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Finally hitting back.


2 posted on 11/18/2005 6:26:11 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Whoa, there's Republicans in Pennsylvania? When did this happen?


3 posted on 11/18/2005 6:26:23 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
"I think the timing is bad. "

With a cluster! The Dems will go ape!

4 posted on 11/18/2005 6:27:32 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Careful. Stupid is not the same thing as unethical.


5 posted on 11/18/2005 6:29:38 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

I want a frog-march.


6 posted on 11/18/2005 6:30:57 PM PST by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy; ncountylee

Good! The Dems have taken decency for weakness for 5 yrs now and have done nothing but become more and more evil and more and more partisan. Time to change the scenario.


7 posted on 11/18/2005 6:32:43 PM PST by livius
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To: denydenydeny; doug from upland
I want a frog-march.

Dittos!

8 posted on 11/18/2005 6:33:08 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

9 posted on 11/18/2005 6:34:04 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: popdonnelly

It is appropriate to refer this to the ethics committee for review. That is what they are there for, to review possible ethics issues to either clear the target, or find them in violation.

Certainly the information in the LA times is enough to warrent a look-see by the ethics committee.


10 posted on 11/18/2005 6:34:28 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: nutmeg

The timing of an investigation now may not bode well for our side. The dems are trying to convince the nation that if you disagree with the Admin. policy they will go after you.


11 posted on 11/18/2005 6:37:00 PM PST by StarFan
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

heee heee heee playing hardball!!!!


12 posted on 11/18/2005 6:37:13 PM PST by ghostcat
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To: writer33
Whoa, there's Republicans in Pennsylvania? When did this happen?

I'll have you know that there are at least three Republicans in Pennsylvania! Unfortunately two are RINOS.

13 posted on 11/18/2005 6:39:29 PM PST by appleharvey
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
They need to investigate the poor man's mental health status. He makes no sense.
14 posted on 11/18/2005 6:40:03 PM PST by msnimje (Bob Woodward is the Grinch who stole Fitzmas.....................................................)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Hell yeah...leash is finally off the dog
15 posted on 11/18/2005 6:42:26 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: StarFan
The dems are trying to convince the nation that if you disagree with the Admin. policy they will go after you.

Must be a difficult thing to do considering so far there is no one under investigation except other Republicans.

16 posted on 11/18/2005 6:50:22 PM PST by penowa
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To: denydenydeny

I want 250 frog marches which, curiously, corresponds to the number of Dumbocrats in the House and Senate.

Greg


17 posted on 11/18/2005 6:55:04 PM PST by Greg o the Navy
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Finally. The Democrats are going for the throat and they think the law doesn't apply to them. I'm very happy to see a proper action by the majority.

The timing is perfect. We have documented here nearly a decade of crimes by the Democrats in real-time. They have been getting away with this kind of thing constantly. They have escalated to political prosecutions of high-ranking members of both the executive and the legislative branch, and the effective equivalent in the judiciary's confirmation circus for far longer.

Now we have another product of Vietnam Derangement Syndrome proposing that we satisfy our enemy's current top objective - pull out of Iraq - on the back of a years-long propaganda campaign intended from the beginning to produce just this particular bit of treason. This is as good a moment to fight back as there will ever be.

18 posted on 11/18/2005 6:55:32 PM PST by thoughtomator (Democrats think 1984 is an instruction manual)
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To: nutmeg
Republican lawmakers say that ties between Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) and his brother's lobbying firm, KSA Consulting, may warrant investigation by the House ethics committee...

Not may, do it.

19 posted on 11/18/2005 6:55:48 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: denydenydeny

Oh. And 250 indictments too. Gotta adhere to due process even when the perps are despicable traitors.

Greg


20 posted on 11/18/2005 6:57:03 PM PST by Greg o the Navy
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

I agree with you about the timing, but considering what the Democrats have been doing to Tom Delay and the POTUS, I say it's time to talke the gloves off and expose every crooked Democrat we find


21 posted on 11/18/2005 6:57:31 PM PST by MJY1288 (The main stream media has the wisdom of a new born and the vision of a still born)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

"While an investigation may be warranted, I think the timing is bad. Murtha is a Marine and has served his country, no doubt."

Screw this "Marine." Just because you went through it when you were younger does not give you a lifelong license to act like an asshat, and be disloyal to the President, and, in effect, disloyal to all the current armed forces. Kerry was in the military too, you know.

As for this "steering" of Pentagon contracts to firms and people he knows...he just lost any shred of "honor" he might have convinced me he had. It's all about the money and/or the politics.

Semper screw Murtha.


22 posted on 11/18/2005 6:59:16 PM PST by John Robertson ( Safe Travel)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

When the DIMs start whining bout this, republicans should (but won't) point out the number of conservative non profits that were audited by Clinton's IRS. And the left wing ones that weren't.


23 posted on 11/18/2005 7:02:28 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
It occurs to me that Murtha may have known the lid was about to blow off his crimes, so he changed sides to get media favor.
24 posted on 11/18/2005 7:02:41 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: appleharvey

:)


25 posted on 11/18/2005 7:03:12 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy; ncountylee

I think the time line is reversed. This probe was already underway, I bet, before Murtha came up with his pull-out ploy.


26 posted on 11/18/2005 7:03:45 PM PST by expatpat
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To: ozzymandus
It occurs to me that Murtha may have known the lid was about to blow off his crimes, so he changed sides to get media favor.

Good point I bet its true.

Wolf
27 posted on 11/18/2005 7:10:30 PM PST by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
"may warrant investigation"

What? May warrant investigation? bullsh@@! Get the JD on this right away, or the Senate Ethics committee to start investigation. Now!!!!!
28 posted on 11/18/2005 7:12:57 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

I think the right time is now.

If they wait for a more appropriate time, they'll wind up waiting forever--as usual.

I think it's time to investigate Nancy Pelosi for campaign finance fraud, too.


29 posted on 11/18/2005 7:14:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

That is going to leave a mark.


30 posted on 11/18/2005 7:15:08 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

My, my, my.......
Another corrupt Democrat....

I hope they investigate EVERY congress critter with questionable "practices"......

Lock em all up...

Semper Fi


31 posted on 11/18/2005 7:17:05 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Murta was also snagged in the ABSCAM scandal (no files charged) 25 years ago.

Murtha was the only congressman involved in the complex case to emerge without facing criminal charges. He declared he was innocent, saying he had "met with two men who I believed had a substantial line of credit that could provide up to 1,000 jobs for the district. I broke no law. I took no money." A grand jury and the House ethics panel cleared Murtha of any wrongdoing.

32 posted on 11/18/2005 7:17:07 PM PST by dancusa (Appeasement, high taxes and regulation collects in the diapers of bed wetting liberals.)
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To: StarFan
The dems are trying to convince the nation that if you disagree with the Admin. policy they will go after you.

The reality is if you disagree with the dems or the media, they will go after you.

33 posted on 11/18/2005 7:17:32 PM PST by staytrue
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
 
If the GOP attacks this man in this manner at this time, we will lose everything we have fought for. I'm watching this man give a very good speech on the floor of the house right now and I'm telling you all, he doesn't come across as a crazy Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid. He comes across as a respectable retired Marine.  Fight the proposal, not the man.

 

 

34 posted on 11/18/2005 7:18:12 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Facts are neither debatable nor open to "I have a right to this opinion" nonsense.)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
About time this Kanjorski guy gets caught with his fingers in the cookie jar. Any investigation into any/many of the antics of this idiot over the last 15+ years and he would be fried.
For too long this political hack has been pulling the wool over the eyes of the good people in the Wilkes-Barre area (NE PA) with the continued help of all the local news.
My wife subscribes to the local news rag "for the coupons". She is not a political junky but for reasons unknown to me she constantly watches FOX News.
P.S. Congressman Martha will never be guarding God's
Gate with the true MARINES. Semper Fi

PA dumborats--- Philly----Pittsburg---- Luzerne County....
35 posted on 11/18/2005 7:25:30 PM PST by xdemoncrap
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To: dancusa

"no files charged"

no charges filed (grin)


36 posted on 11/18/2005 7:26:53 PM PST by headstamp
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Daschle went to bed with a Boeing lobbiest every night - his wife. Nobody seemed to think that too cozy. Probably because 90% in both parties have similarly sleazy arrangements with lobbiests.


37 posted on 11/18/2005 7:37:27 PM PST by DManA
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To: HawaiianGecko
The man doesn't impress. Here's some interesting reading on how he voted no on a pay raise for our troops but yes to fatten his pocket.
38 posted on 11/18/2005 7:39:17 PM PST by StarFan
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

This is going nowhere. All dems have to do is threaten to investigate Trent Lott's lobbyist son or Roy Blunt's lobbyist wife.


39 posted on 11/18/2005 7:43:41 PM PST by DManA
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
While an investigation may be warranted, I think the timing is bad. Murtha is a Marine and has served his country, no doubt. BUT - he is wrong, and has been wrong on Iraq for a while

Typical scaredy-cat Republican stance. We are at war with the dems. It doesn't matter that he was a marine. That's irrevelant now. He's a coward and a traitor NOW. Our side needs to politically defeat their enemies by any means necessary.

40 posted on 11/18/2005 7:51:13 PM PST by plain talk
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Time to hit back.


41 posted on 11/18/2005 7:56:58 PM PST by sagar
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To: denydenydeny

Ha, that was funny!


42 posted on 11/18/2005 8:04:32 PM PST by Sometimes A River (Your hands and feet are mangoes, but you're gonna be a genius anyway)
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To: StarFan

And that is bad in what way? Turn the spotlight on yourself and you'd better have damned lily white record. Especially when you're a congressman. If he broke the law, let the pieces fall where they may.


43 posted on 11/18/2005 8:05:15 PM PST by church16 (“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence...")
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To: church16

I am not suggesting he skate. I'm suggesting we put this on the back burner for a short while.


44 posted on 11/18/2005 8:09:12 PM PST by StarFan
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To: StarFan
The timing of an investigation now may not bode well for our side. The dems are trying to convince the nation that if you disagree with the Admin. policy they will go after you.

That is WHY Murtha is doing this now...to use that defense.

45 posted on 11/18/2005 8:16:00 PM PST by jdsteel (I need a new tag line!!!)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator

Murtha thought he was sucking up to Arabs then for money, and now he's sucking up to them for free. Toss this cut-and-run traitor into prison where he belongs.


46 posted on 11/18/2005 8:20:40 PM PST by Cautor
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

He thru his honor away with both hands yesterday and today. Investigate


47 posted on 11/18/2005 8:23:00 PM PST by marty60
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
This explains a lot. We now know why Murtha did this and why he did it now. He knew this was coming and needed to have an issue to hold up as the reason he was being "persecuted".
48 posted on 11/18/2005 8:29:26 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

And I just sat here tonight and listened to Murtha ranting and railing that our troops don't have enough armaments, supplies and weapons.

Heck, he was so impassioned I kind of believed him!

.....Ba$tard.


49 posted on 11/18/2005 8:45:35 PM PST by Humidston
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To: Humidston
Heck, he was so impassioned I kind of believed him!

You should. He meant every word of it, including reinstituting the draft to provide additional troops.

50 posted on 11/18/2005 8:49:34 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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