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Lawmakers Reject Immediate Iraq Withdrawal
http://www.breitbart.com ^ | nov 18 11:41 PM US/Eastern | LIZ SIDOTI

Posted on 11/18/2005 8:52:21 PM PST by Para-Ord.45

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To: USNBandit

Critics of the politics of McCain and Murtha are not deriding their service or suffering.

We are however, weary of their acting as though their service renders their political views as being immune to all criticism or disagreement.

If somebody waves his medals in my face and says STFU, I'll just wave mine back and say UYA.


61 posted on 11/18/2005 11:45:22 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
What shocks me more than Nancy Pelosi and John Murtha is the fact that BERNIE SANDERS VOTED NO.

I am, frankly, quite stunned.

62 posted on 11/19/2005 4:56:01 AM PST by kellynch (I am excessively diverted ~~Jane Austen)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Yuk... Liz Sidoti needs to take a few classes.

Nice write up. The first sentance says what happens, the second calls it engineered to fail and a political stunt.

There is one sentance by a Republican, one sentance saying what happened, and 8 sentances that are democratic talking points and rebuttals.

Typical...

Liz Sidoti is a big, fat, PHONEY.


63 posted on 11/19/2005 6:28:52 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: TBP
Exactly, the point isn't to 'get the troops' out... that one is as much a load as 'we support the troops but are against the mission'

Its all just another excuse to have yet another 'debate' on Iraq. A 'debate' we've had several times, including the election and several others.

The problem is they ALWAYS loose that debate. To them the end is the worst, they get all their traction from pontificating and crying about what sucks during the process.

They are in love with process because thats where they can muck stuff up with innuendo and use their MSM ally to their greatest advantage.

Anyway, this ALL stems from Fitz not indicting 'on the war' like the left was all set for, then they tried their little 'secret session' thing to try to restart that 'debate' and then you had their PUSH POLLING in the MSM a few days later, then Murtha a few days later...

Republicans did a VERY smart thing and cut them to the chase, cut to the end, and DEMONSTRATE they have any REAL solutions to anything and are just acting the fool.
64 posted on 11/19/2005 6:41:43 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: elcid1970
Critics of the politics of McCain and Murtha are not deriding their service or suffering

Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe I misread the post I was responding to, 'cause it said:

Unlike McCain, Sam Johnson is a former Vietnam POW with guts, honor, and love of his country!

Here is the post I was responding to, which implied that McCain was a POW without guts, honor, or love of his country. Nothing in that statement is correct and I don't see any reference to his politics, either.

John McCain spent years getting beat upon by his captors and he spent years risking his life flying off ships. Flying A-4s to a target surrounded by AAA and SAMs to deliver iron bombs takes guts. If you've ever seen the film of the fire on the USS Forrestal then you probably saw him running through flames. Excuse me, that takes guts.

If you haven't been a POW or haven't been a Naval Aviator, then you don't have any experience with which to make such a statement.

65 posted on 11/19/2005 8:41:05 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: jonrick46
"The DemonRATS do not want the victory in Iraq to be the Republican's under President Bush.

They do not want our brave sons who are fighting for freedom to have victory under President Bush.

They do not want the security of this nation nor of the world to be made secure through the freedom gained by oppressed people around the world if is gained with the help of President Bush and freedom loving people around the world."

Well said!!!!!!!!

66 posted on 11/19/2005 11:44:30 AM PST by malia
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To: USNBandit

I reread my thread and it makes no mention of Sam Johnson, whoever he may be. I only commented that one's military service or POW experience do not immunize from criticism one's political views or actions.

BTW, I'm a Vietnam combat UH-1 pilot. I'm now volunteering to fly CH-47s in Iraq, if I can pass a flight physical. I feel I owe that to the troops whom I support and I'm grateful for the opportunity.

I should clarify, in Sen. McCain's case, that he has never used his heroic background to silence his critics. The MSM are the ones who have attemtped to do that on his behalf. I am only saddened by Sen. McCain acting as the determined maverick.

But Rep. Murtha is the one who is beating his opponents over the head with his Marine vet status. Frankly, I'd never heard of him before Thursday. Murtha is in fact waving his medals in peoples' face.


67 posted on 11/19/2005 12:39:40 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970

Read post #28. That was what got me miffed. It implied that McCain didn't have guts, honor, or love for his country.


68 posted on 11/19/2005 12:51:25 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: jonrick46

Wow! Well said!


69 posted on 11/19/2005 1:35:06 PM PST by xone
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To: USNBandit

Tweren't me. I disagree with Sen. McCain but find his character unimpeachable.

Just who is Sam Johnson, anyway?


70 posted on 11/19/2005 2:22:45 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970

No, it was ExTexasRedhead. Sam Johnson was a Phantom pilot/Vietnam POW who is now in the House.


71 posted on 11/19/2005 2:36:05 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Far more interesting are the considerable number who didn't vote.


72 posted on 11/19/2005 2:38:23 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Para-Ord.45

I would like to commend Reps. McKinney, Serrano, and Wexler for having the courage to vote their principles, unlike the rest of their party. As terribly wrong as their position is, you have to give them credit for at least having the courage of their convictions. It';s more than Murtha or any of the other Dimmycraps had.


73 posted on 11/20/2005 3:50:16 PM PST by TBP
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