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Congress Rejects Iraq Exit Bill
Fox News ^ | Saturday, November 19, 2005 | Associated Press via Fox News

Posted on 11/19/2005 3:56:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie

WASHINGTON — The House on Friday overwhelmingly rejected calls for an immediate troop withdrawal from Iraq, a vote engineered by Republicans that was intended to fail. Democrats derided the vote as a political stunt.

"Our troops have become the enemy. We need to change direction in Iraq," said Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, a Democratic hawk whose call a day earlier for pulling out troops sparked a nasty, personal debate over the war.

The House voted 403-3 to reject a nonbinding resolution offered by the GOP calling for the military to pull out of Iraq.

"We want to make sure that we support our troops that are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. We will not retreat," Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., said as the Republican leadership pushed the issue to a vote over the protest of Democrats.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; bush; congress; democract; gutless; iraq; lose; monekeys; murtha; sellout; surrender; terrorism; traitors; war
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Thank God the US House gets it. Take that Dem traitors. Your effort to gin up all this hyper media hysteria about Murtha, a Democrat Congresscritter this week has FAILRD. Funny how the Dinasours made such a big deal about Murtha and have totally ignored the hysteric Dinosaur drummed up about him in 2003 when he STARTED speing this crap. US House just told the Hysteric Leftist where they can stick their surrender plans.

You lose Dems, AGAIN.

Tried to gin up all this hyper hysteria about a Murtha, aDemocrat Congresscritter this week, while totally ignoring the hysteric you Dinasour drummed up about him in 2003. US House just told you where you can stick your surrender plans Dims.

1 posted on 11/19/2005 3:56:18 AM PST by MNJohnnie
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To: MNJohnnie
Congress Rejects Iraq Exit Bill

Exit left Murtha.

see tag

2 posted on 11/19/2005 4:00:13 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: MNJohnnie

I loved the Congresswoman who said that "Cowards cut and run, Marines never do."


3 posted on 11/19/2005 4:01:42 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: MNJohnnie
US House just told you where you can stick your surrender plans Dims.

John Murtha --- Mr. Cindy Sheehan

4 posted on 11/19/2005 4:02:19 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: beyond the sea

Think how ANGRY the leftwingnut BASE is going to be...hee hee hee hee!! Their representatives the DEMOCRATS didn't vote for withdrawal!! hee hee hee hee hee hee!


5 posted on 11/19/2005 4:06:18 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: mariabush
Schmidt from Ohio.

According to Mr. Saliva(Chris Mathews), she “croaked her career” last night. Greenspan's wife was also very upset! ;^D

6 posted on 11/19/2005 4:10:14 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: MNJohnnie

So who were the 3 losers?


7 posted on 11/19/2005 4:12:19 AM PST by samtheman
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To: MNJohnnie
DIMocRATS are gutless cowards!
8 posted on 11/19/2005 4:12:21 AM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: mariabush
I loved the Congresswoman who said that "Cowards cut and run, Marines never do."

That was Jean Schmidt (R-OH) my very own congress critter. She won her seat this summer in a special election against Paul Hackett, a Marine officer in the reserves, who served in Iraq (Falujah). Jean Schmidt was quoting a Marine Colonel who had talked to her about Murtha.

9 posted on 11/19/2005 4:14:10 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: beyond the sea



10 posted on 11/19/2005 4:15:47 AM PST by maggief
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To: MNJohnnie
This was an absolutely brilliant move on the part of the house GOP leadership

By calling the vote, every Demonut had to go on record as to their position

The Sunday talk show hosts had undoubtedly planned on filling their air time with long discussions about Murtha, his call to withdraw, and how many would follow the call.

Now all they can talk about is a mass rejection BY DEMOCRATS of Murha's proposal.

A lot of dead air coming your wy this Sunday...

Oh, and a note to Republican members of Congress - see how easy it is to play this politics game? Grow a pair and play it more often.

11 posted on 11/19/2005 4:16:11 AM PST by jscd3
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To: MNJohnnie

Mornin! You missed the 8000 posts last night during the voting. Be thankful Sunday isn't that busy.

The Democrats will now insist the vote was only a stunt and they will try to spin it as not serious. Regardless, their supporters have to be told about these guys not supporting withdrawl, which is what the anti-Bush people want. Three voted no and six voted present.

Murtha is also under investigation, but Democrats don't want to hear that either.


12 posted on 11/19/2005 4:16:21 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: mariabush

Yeah, I thought the exchange between Harold Ford and Tom Tancredo was also great. Ford, like the rest, can't handle the truth of their positions.


13 posted on 11/19/2005 4:17:23 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: MNJohnnie

Katrina hurt us for the next election. I ain't saying it's right, just that we might lose support.


14 posted on 11/19/2005 4:18:14 AM PST by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: MNJohnnie
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15 posted on 11/19/2005 4:19:35 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: djf

Katrina won't hurt us as much as it exposes Democrats inability to lead, and failure to do their jobs once elected.


16 posted on 11/19/2005 4:19:38 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: SoFloFreeper

Someone should cruise over to DU (though I doubt any of them are up this early - lol) and report back on what they're saying.


17 posted on 11/19/2005 4:19:46 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

The Dem sites were going nuts in support early last night. They kind of came to their senses once some of them realized what was happening to them, and the bad PR they were going to get. Pelosi and Co. held them together at the end to avoid being seen as anti-military by voting yes.


18 posted on 11/19/2005 4:21:42 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: BluH2o
This was all about Hillary. She wanted to be the "Hero" who was responsible for bringing the troops home. She KNOWS as it has already been said "many times" by the Bush Administration that they will come home when the time is right and that possibly means 2006, 2007, 2008.

She made a statement last night. The only thing I remember is: "I'm on the Armed Services Committee". Everything else was mumble, jumble.

19 posted on 11/19/2005 4:21:51 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: jscd3
"Oh, and a note to Republican members of Congress - see how easy it is to play this politics game? Grow a pair and play it more often."

Exactly. What they did was a brilliant move and I really enjoyed the WH press secretary comparing Murah to Michael Moore - LOL. A little much but effective!
20 posted on 11/19/2005 4:22:19 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: SoFloFreeper
Think how ANGRY the leftwingnut BASE is going to be

Oh yeah. The way they went after St Hillary for not condemning the war, this is going to make their heads explode.

21 posted on 11/19/2005 4:23:20 AM PST by MNJohnnie (America is safest when the US Congress is on recess)
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To: johnny7

I dont know a lot about politics, But Chris Mathews isnt right very often. This woman pissed off a lot of her Democrat colleagues probably, but they dont vote for her anyway. Her constituents do.


22 posted on 11/19/2005 4:23:37 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: mariabush; johnny7
At one point in the emotional debate, Rep. Jean Schmidt, R-Ohio, told of a phone call she received from a Marine colonel. "He asked me to send Congress a message — stay the course. He also asked me to send Congressman Murtha a message — that cowards cut and run, Marines never do," Schmidt said. Murtha is a 37-year Marine veteran. Democrats booed and shouted her down — causing the House to come to a standstill.

Maybe Spitball and Mrs. Greenspan could take it up with the Marine Colonel. They can't handle the truth any more than the shouting, booing Rats.

23 posted on 11/19/2005 4:26:32 AM PST by Sal (Murtha closed down all phones and email and then pretended calls were 4-1 in his favor. Riight.)
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To: mlc9852

Here is one.

mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Nov-19-05 07:13 AM
Original message
"I totally support the suffering of our troops so Cheney can be wealthier"


i totally support our brave president and his godly mission to bring peace to the world, and i totally support the awful suffering and sacrifice of our troops as they die every day for nothing more than billioniare's desires to become trillionaires.


24 posted on 11/19/2005 4:26:41 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: mariabush

I wish they also would have scheduled a vote on whether to pull out of Japan, Germany and Bosnia. Useless, I know, but an informative comparison.


25 posted on 11/19/2005 4:26:46 AM PST by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: johnny7

If I could kick out Ford Jr. here in Tennessee and vote for a woman that has the brass to call it like it, I would.


26 posted on 11/19/2005 4:26:59 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: BluH2o
Marine officer in the reserves, who served in Iraq (Falujah).

Correction, he was based in Baghdad organizing convoys to Falluja as part of his job as a Civil Affairs Officer. Honor his service, do not fall for the attempt the Dinosaur Media made to spin him as a Combat Marine. He isn't.

27 posted on 11/19/2005 4:27:34 AM PST by MNJohnnie (America is safest when the US Congress is on recess)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Sorry, I forgot the link.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5403797


28 posted on 11/19/2005 4:27:44 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: johnny7

>>Schmidt from Ohio<<

I think this lady needs a FReep!

Anyone have her e-mail address? Her homepage give access only to those in her district.

If I were a Dem, I would drive down to Southern Ohio and vote for her.


29 posted on 11/19/2005 4:28:04 AM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: mlc9852

Here's the latest I saw over there (I have to shower again now after venturing over there). They are truly pathetic.

Republicans suffer embarrassing defeat!
The republican sponsored vote to cut and run from Iraq IMMEDIATELY was soundly defeated by the democrats yesterday. The proposal was a cowardly and treasonous idea, taking Rep. John Murtha's (D-Pennsylvania) reasoned proposal to begin redeployment of US troops over a 6 month period and issuing their own for an immediate pullout without any consideration to the safety of American troops or the fragile future of the new Iraqi republic.


30 posted on 11/19/2005 4:29:27 AM PST by Uddercha0s
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To: beyond the sea
Just my 2 cents here (the Gov took 1.5 of it).
Murtha is held up as a great war Vet. With tours in the Nam. How many times was he called "Sir" there ?
A few of the higher echelon commanding that war I wouldn't let watch my dog let alone expect them to fight a war the right way. I don't know what his rank or command was during his career, but I question his thought process.

As for the 403 to 3 vote SHOWS that the Dem's are spineless.
Lead, Follow, or get the hell out of the way !!!
31 posted on 11/19/2005 4:30:06 AM PST by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: MNJohnnie; All

Senators took the back seat last night, other than a couple who were trying to share the limelight with the representatives. It was kind of funny in that way.

Also shown, is that there ARE Repubicans who deserve to be on the talk shows more often. Tony Snow said networks want "colorful" people. Well, they got to see colorful last night.


32 posted on 11/19/2005 4:30:07 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: maggief
Good Lord...

Do these people look like the type that will fight when cornered?!!

33 posted on 11/19/2005 4:30:25 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: djf
Katrina hurt us for the next election

Nonsense. Read Rassmussen's poll. Funny how the Media had to add 1/3 more Dems and Indies to the sample and reduce the number of Republican polled to get their fraudlent Bush approval numbers.

Why is it certain Freepers always have to find something negative to say no matter WHAT the threat topic is? This 100% Negativity from the Doom an Gloom brigade makes us wonder just WHOESE side they realy are on?

34 posted on 11/19/2005 4:30:57 AM PST by MNJohnnie (America is safest when the US Congress is on recess)
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To: Morgan in Denver
The Democrats will now insist the vote was only a stunt and they will try to spin it as not serious.

Yeah, Morgan, they started last night saying this was nothing like what Murtha had proposed.

J.D. Heyworth was very brief but very effective when he held up a NY Slimes frontpage headline, and WAPO front pageheadline, and an Al Jazzeera frontpage headline--all said Murtha wanted immediate withdrawal.

35 posted on 11/19/2005 4:31:28 AM PST by Sal (Murtha closed down all phones and email and then pretended calls were 4-1 in his favor. Riight.)
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To: Tinman73

PLUS, six Dems who voted Present.


36 posted on 11/19/2005 4:32:55 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: MNJohnnie

This 100% Negativity from the Doom an Gloom brigade makes us wonder just WHOESE side they realy are on?

That's easy to answer, any side but Bush's.


37 posted on 11/19/2005 4:34:11 AM PST by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: beyond the sea

38 posted on 11/19/2005 4:34:19 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Sal

Saw that too!!! It was great. JD nailed them for another lie in their trying to redirect the argument.

I have to say, the whole event was worth watching and I'll be interested to see what the statistics are for C-SPAN last night.


39 posted on 11/19/2005 4:34:51 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Jet Jaguar

Just scary.


40 posted on 11/19/2005 4:36:13 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Tinman73

But, that's the whole point of it all. Exposing the Democrats for playing politics with the lives of our military. They are more interested in politics than supporting America.


41 posted on 11/19/2005 4:36:15 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Sal

I bet both of them will be running for the Midol this morning.


42 posted on 11/19/2005 4:37:45 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: MNJohnnie

Calling for this vote was a really smart Repub move.


Whoever came up with the idea deserves recognition.


43 posted on 11/19/2005 4:39:15 AM PST by aculeus
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To: MNJohnnie

Clip of

Jean Schmidt: “Cowards cut and run, Marines never do” (VIDEO)

is available at:

http://www.thepoliticalteen.net/

Save it to your hard drive for posterity.


44 posted on 11/19/2005 4:40:51 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: aculeus

JD Hayworth brought the idea up in conference and it became the event of the day.

Hannity and O'Reilly are going to claim credit for it because they talked about it earlier, and Hugh Hewitt is probably one of the first to suggest it.


45 posted on 11/19/2005 4:41:31 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Sacajaweau
Do you think Hillry getting herself on the Armed Services Committee had anything to do with her being able to monitor "Able Danger"?
46 posted on 11/19/2005 4:41:34 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: samtheman
The three moonbats who voted for immediate surrender to the terrorists were Wexler from Florida, Cynthia McKinney, and somebody named Serrano or something from NY.

There were also 6 "nuanced" (read scared out of their little panties) Rats who were afraid to vote anything else but "present".

22 couldn't even get up the energy to vote at all.

47 posted on 11/19/2005 4:41:47 AM PST by Sal (Murtha closed down all phones and email and then pretended calls were 4-1 in his favor. Riight.)
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To: samtheman
McKinney Serrano Wexler voted AYE (withdrawl)

Capuano Clay Hinchey McDermott Nadler Owens (voted present)

Beauprez Berman Boswell Boyd Camp Cunningham Davis (AL) Flake Fossella Gallegly Hall Jindal Kind LaHood Miller, Gary
Moran (KS) Northup Paul Peterson (PA) Shadegg Towns Young (AK) DID NOT VOTE (the people in these states NEED to fire these wimps !!
48 posted on 11/19/2005 4:42:26 AM PST by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: TomGuy

Hey, TomGuy. What are your thoughts this morning after the vote?


49 posted on 11/19/2005 4:42:27 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Morgan in Denver

I think J.D. is going to go further than the House of Representatives and I'll be glad to see it.


50 posted on 11/19/2005 4:44:34 AM PST by Sal (Murtha closed down all phones and email and then pretended calls were 4-1 in his favor. Riight.)
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