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White males need not apply (Internal e-mail reveals hiring ban at Public Works)
The National Post ^ | Saturday, November 19, 2005 | Tom Blackwell

Posted on 11/19/2005 10:13:08 AM PST by fanfan

A major federal department has temporarily banned the hiring of able-bodied white men in an unusual move critics say could spark a backlash against the very disadvantaged groups it is meant to help.

Managers in the Public Works department must hire only visible minorities, women, aboriginals and the disabled, except with written permission from their superiors, David Marshall, the deputy minister, ordered in an e-mail circulated yesterday.

The policy, designed to address shortfalls in the department's employment-equity goals, will last at least until the end of next March and be reviewed then, the memo said.

"As executives and managers, our role includes ensuring that the public service is representative," Mr. Marshall said in the memo. "This involves providing direction and leadership by example, and demonstrating a firm commitment to an inclusive workplace."

Pierre Teotonio, a department spokesman, said last night the order was prompted in part by a precipitous drop in the number of employees hired from the designated groups this year. The proportion of female, disabled, aboriginal and non-white new hires fell from one in eight this March to only one in 20 by September, he said. The federal benchmark just for the hiring of visible minorities is one in five.

Still, a veteran labour lawyer said yesterday he had never heard of an edict actually barring the recruitment of large numbers of people. And even a federal civil service union that strongly supports employment equity questioned the wisdom of the policy.

"I think it's creating a possible backlash against equity groups and then it's not helping these people to get into government," said Nycole Turmel, president of the Public Service Alliance of Canada.

"It's even creating more frustration or anger from the workforce as well as from the population ... I am quite sure the people they hire will be competent and good employees, but that is not the point here. They will be seen as targets, and then people will question their hiring, and I don't think it will help them."

She also charged that many of those hired over the next few months may well be laid off once the department reaches its targets by the end of the fiscal year in March.

Ms. Turmel said a more effective strategy would be simply to encourage managers to consider members of the designated groups, and provide help to those people to find work in the federal government.

The Charter of Rights and Freedoms does allow some discrimination by government to aid groups it identifies as being disadvantaged, said Robb Macpherson, a labour lawyer with the firm McCarthy Tetrault.

However, that usually means implementing equity programs that promote the hiring of qualified people from those groups. The Public Works order appears to take the idea a step further, he said. "They are in effect cutting off a significant portion of the workforce from these opportunities," Mr. Macpherson said. "It sounds like a pretty extreme measure that they're contemplating."

Federal statistics for 2003-04 show that the representation of women, aboriginal people and the disabled in the government was actually greater than in the Canadian workforce as a whole. But the percentage of visible minorities -- 7.8% -- was less than the 10.4% in the overall workforce.

Mr. Teotonio said the move was taken as part of the department's efforts under the six-year-old "Embracing Change" program, designed to bring more members of visible minorities into the federal government.

The percentage of visible minorities and the three other designated groups hired by Public Works over the past year dropped in part because there was relatively little recruitment of any kind, he said.

"All persons recruited externally must be from designated groups (persons who are visible minorities, aboriginal peoples, persons with disabilities and women), except for cases having received ADM/CEO written approval," the memo said.

"This measure will be in force until March 31, 2006, at which time we will re-assess our progress."


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; canukistan; culturewars; discrimination; evilwhitemen; liberalbigots; pc; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect; racism; savethemales; theworldswhippingboy; whitemales; workplace
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1 posted on 11/19/2005 10:13:10 AM PST by fanfan
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To: GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; ...

Canada Ping.

Please FReepmail me to get on or off this Canada ping list.


2 posted on 11/19/2005 10:14:37 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan
"...the order was prompted in part by a precipitous drop in the number of employees hired from the designated groups this year.

Might it be that members of the designated groups have little interest in working?

3 posted on 11/19/2005 10:18:17 AM PST by davisfh
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To: davisfh

Maybe they were already soaked up by other similiarly racist organizations.


4 posted on 11/19/2005 10:20:58 AM PST by thoughtomator (Democrats think 1984 is an instruction manual)
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To: fanfan

How much longer can this insanity be sustained before Canada breaks apart? They may not make it to the end of the decade, at this rate.


5 posted on 11/19/2005 10:21:45 AM PST by Dont Mention the War (Pirro '06 - Save New York!)
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To: fanfan
"Managers in the Public Works department must hire only visible minorities, women, aboriginals and the disabled

My name is Zabuumba and I'll be designing the new highway.


6 posted on 11/19/2005 10:26:12 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: fanfan

"Oh Canada, you get what you deserve..."


7 posted on 11/19/2005 10:26:27 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: fanfan

So, Public Works is both sexist and racist. How interesting.


8 posted on 11/19/2005 10:26:40 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: fanfan

Walk into just about any government agency and tell me what you see. It certainly won't be a majority of white males.

When I walk into my local DMV, it looks like you're walking into an international airport in Lisbon. The last time I did, I noted two whites in a room with about 250 people in it.

Ah yes, the blessings of diversity. Surrender today... LOL


9 posted on 11/19/2005 10:28:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: ElkGroveDan

LOL.

Just give him a parka, and he'll be ready for work.

Oh, wait....does he speak French?


10 posted on 11/19/2005 10:29:33 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: sionnsar

Public Works is a living entity which is racist, sexist, and homophobic. I thought everyone knew this.


11 posted on 11/19/2005 10:31:08 AM PST by calrighty ( Watch " The Beeber Story ", written by al baby, produced by Hugh Series. Troops BTTT)
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To: sionnsar

All this time I thought it was us conservatives who were supposed to be sexist and racist.

Who knew it was the liberals?


12 posted on 11/19/2005 10:32:51 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: ElkGroveDan

LOL! LOL! LOL! and LOL!

And he even has a "model city" just like an engineer!


13 posted on 11/19/2005 10:34:41 AM PST by A knight without armor
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To: fanfan
Oh, wait....does he speak French?

He doesn't need to. They assigned him to Lethbridge, Alberta. Unfortunately he doesn't speak English either.

14 posted on 11/19/2005 10:36:52 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: fanfan
Managers in the Public Works department must hire only visible minorities, women, aboriginals and the disabled, except with written permission from their superiors, David Marshall, the deputy minister, ordered in an e-mail circulated yesterday.

Aboriginals??!?

15 posted on 11/19/2005 10:39:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: fanfan
Old news. In 1991 I was verbally hired for a job with the FAA, then told I could not have the job because they had been ordered not to hire any more white men until they "had more women and people of color." A woman with 1/3 my experience and qualifications was given the job as an Aviation Safety Inspector.

Thank you, Goerge H.W. Bush.

16 posted on 11/19/2005 10:42:12 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Lazamataz
Aboriginals??!?

I think in Canada that's the PC word for Eskimos.

Here they are discussing the location of Ottawa's new water treatment facility.


17 posted on 11/19/2005 10:44:14 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

The one on the second-from-left does not look happy.


18 posted on 11/19/2005 10:45:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: fanfan
Interestingly, gender-based discrimination against males isn't illegal within the matriarchal socialist republic of Kanuckistan ... however if the words 'homosexual' or 'Muslim' had been included .... well !!!


Another triumph for the socialist-imposed alleged 'Charter of Rights & Freedoms'!
Another mockery of our forbearers' many sacrifices - especially laying down their lives for freedom's cause!

19 posted on 11/19/2005 10:45:25 AM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: oh8eleven
"Oh Canada, you get what you deserve..."

I'd defy you to find even a single Canadian conservative who ever said this about Americans in relation to either of the vile Clintons - moron!
20 posted on 11/19/2005 10:49:31 AM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: ElkGroveDan
My name is Zabuumba and I'll be designing the new highway.

Loved it... but I snorted some stuff out of my head (specific origin unknown) when I laughed. You owe me a new keyboard. :-)

21 posted on 11/19/2005 10:55:56 AM PST by ken in texas (Can't afford a tagline... please send money.)
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To: GMMAC

That may be true. But Canada has no hope of becoming anything but socialist. At least we could vote the Clintons out. How will Canada ever vote out its Swedish-style socialism and ultra-political correctness?


22 posted on 11/19/2005 10:59:59 AM PST by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: Lazamataz

'Aboriginals' is a typo.

Correct is singular. Ab as in Ab Normal, from Young Frankenstein.

and NO offense intended to genuine people of Abs, washboard or not.


23 posted on 11/19/2005 11:04:25 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: fanfan

I've heard that affirmative action is out of control in the federal bureaucracy centered around Washington DC. That many departments employ minorities way out of proportion to their percentage of the local population. That the minorities hire their own. Not all Fed agencies are like this. But some are

The wealthiest black neighborhoods in the USA are in the Maryland and Virgina suburbs that ring Washington DC. Other minorities are also jammed in to the Federal bureau via affirmative action


24 posted on 11/19/2005 11:07:24 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: fanfan

Ohhh, what a great idea for a new way tobuild a truly competent department - hire only visible minorities, women, aboriginals and the disabled.

Pray this policy doesn't spread to the police and fire departments.


25 posted on 11/19/2005 11:07:49 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: fanfan

I'm sure if Canada advertised in the right places, it would have no trouble finding Muslims who want to work in the airline, railway and automotive industries. In fact they specialize in understanding the most intricate parts of any transportation vehicle, especially those that can be flown into tall buildings or exploded outside a police station or a hotel.

And the best thing about it is that many of them are willing to teach others their craft in case they are suddenly incapacitated. They don't even insist on free health insurance. They will, however, demand numerous breaks for praying and chanting.


26 posted on 11/19/2005 11:08:00 AM PST by Tall_Texan (HOUSTON ASTROS - NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 2005)
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To: fanfan

Do you think that it doesn't happen already in the USA?
What the hell is a visible minority!
Obviously they mean someone who has dark skin and other features that many associate with a "minority". Disgusting, racist and illegal.
Obviously they mean that they won't hire anyone with light skin no matter what the person's background, for fear of being accused of not hiring enough "minorities".
When socialists get into power in the USA, this will be the norm and govmt agencies will NO LONGER HIDE IT!!


27 posted on 11/19/2005 11:08:36 AM PST by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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To: GMMAC

Canadian conservative - what's that? Your country's been getting flushed down the toilet of history for decades and you're calling me a moron? LOL ....


28 posted on 11/19/2005 11:25:11 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: fanfan

Welcome to the making of a third world country.


29 posted on 11/19/2005 11:28:50 AM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: calrighty
Public Works is a living entity which is racist, sexist, and homophobic.

Don't you mean hetro-phobic?

After all, the Minister of Public Works is none other than Scott Brisson, who is openly gay, and engaged to be married to his boyfriend.

30 posted on 11/19/2005 11:30:00 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan
Slick willie's military had the same rules for promotions.

Morale could not have been lower during that tragic time.

31 posted on 11/19/2005 11:30:19 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Lazamataz

aboriginals = Native Indians


32 posted on 11/19/2005 11:31:16 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan

"visible minority"

This tells you all you need to know about their mindset. It's all for show. "Oooh...look how diverse we are!".

I'm guessing it's also to keep someone like a white immigrant from South Africa from claiming that he is a "African-American Canadian"...or whatever you would call them. :)


33 posted on 11/19/2005 11:32:12 AM PST by thecabal ("Now die monkeys and stop saying Muslims are terrorists,we are peaceful people!")
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To: ElkGroveDan
Oh, wait....does he speak French?

He doesn't need to. They assigned him to Lethbridge, Alberta. Unfortunately he doesn't speak English either.

LOL.

I bet he speaks Corruption...the language of Liberals everywhere.

34 posted on 11/19/2005 11:36:42 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Hello! We're the new staff at your local DVM: Women and aboriginals!

35 posted on 11/19/2005 11:37:06 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: fanfan
the Public Works department must hire only visible minorities

"Damn!"

36 posted on 11/19/2005 11:38:22 AM PST by Jhensy
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To: Jhensy

LOL.

He's a minority of one, and invisible to boot.

I don't think they thought about him.


37 posted on 11/19/2005 11:40:44 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Jhensy

Har!


38 posted on 11/19/2005 12:03:00 PM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: fanfan

That is about what is happening in the US.


39 posted on 11/19/2005 12:10:45 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Blurblogger

There wolf.


40 posted on 11/19/2005 12:14:18 PM PST by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: ElkGroveDan
That's a great painting I especially like the guy in the middle looks like the first aboriginal news caster wearing a fur covered TV set.
41 posted on 11/19/2005 12:21:35 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: Dont Mention the War
When a society completely excludes a segment of its citizens, it invites unrest and violence. I wonder if there are any Canadian citizens left who will stand up or has the socialistic education program bred out anyone who would oppose the government edict.
42 posted on 11/19/2005 12:24:03 PM PST by Truth29
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To: oh8eleven; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ...
Even assuming, as example, you're from Illinois - since, with you not having bothered with a FR homepage, we have no way to know - and never voted for Dick Turban, plus worked as hard as you could against him, how could you possibly be held personally responsible for his slanders and de facto treason against America?
Likewise, lots of us with the Liberals.

Although it would be all too easy to give you a long list of well-known Canadian conservatives, what would be the point?
Presumably if you read, you could just as easily compile one of your own - from memory.
43 posted on 11/19/2005 12:35:16 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: calrighty

The Department of Public Works and Government Services should be abolished immediately.


44 posted on 11/19/2005 12:55:32 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Lazamataz

"The one on the second-from-left does not look happy."

He's in charge of toilet seat designs. Shown here with one of the latest.


45 posted on 11/19/2005 1:01:42 PM PST by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: fanfan

Brisson is also homophobic.......he hates himself.


46 posted on 11/19/2005 1:26:32 PM PST by calrighty ( Watch " The Beeber Story ", written by al baby, produced by Hugh Series. Troops BTTT)
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To: fanfan
"As executives and managers, our role includes ensuring that the public service is representative,"

In any sane society or enterprise, your job is to ensure efficient, timely, cost-effective delivery of necessary public services.

If this really bothers you that much, you and like minded managers should donate YOUR jobs to "visible minorities". It is called "leading by example".

47 posted on 11/19/2005 1:26:33 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
When socialists get into power in the USA, this will be the norm and govmt agencies will NO LONGER HIDE IT!!

From the posts on this thread either your countrymen arn't looking the right way , are blind or just choose to ignore what has happened to the USA . It's called AFFIRMATIVE ACTION Personally I like the term , reverse discrimination . When you say "When socialists get into power in the USA", what do you mean by "when"?

http://www.essaysample.com/essay/002617.html

In a statement released in 1981 by the United States Commission on Civil Rights, Jack P. Hartog, who directed the project, said: Only if discrimination were nothing more than the misguided acts of a few prejudiced individuals would affirmative action plans be "reverse discrimination." Only if today's society were operating fairly toward minorities and women would measures that take race, sex, and national origin into account be "preferential treatment." Only if discrimination were securely placed in a well-distant past would affirmative action be an unneeded and drastic remedy.

What the commission failed to realize was that there are thousands of white males who are not discriminating yet are being punished because of those who do. The Northern Natural Gas Company of Omaha, Nebraska, was forced by the government to release sixty-five white male workers to make room for minority employees in 1977 (Nebraska Advisory Committee 40). Five major Omaha corporations reported that the number of white managers fell 25% in 1969 due to restrictions put on them when affirmative action was adopted (Nebraska Advisory Committee 27). You ask, "What did these white males do to bring about their termination?" The only crime that they were guilty of was being white. This hardly seems fair to punish so many innocent men for the crimes of a relative few.

http://www.essaysample.com/essay/002617.html

48 posted on 11/19/2005 1:28:44 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: pabianice
Thank you, Goerge H.W. Bush.

If you would have worked there, then you would have known that the decision came from some flunky rather than the President.
49 posted on 11/19/2005 1:31:01 PM PST by MikefromOhio (We don't give a damn for the WHOLE state of Michigan.....)
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To: Heartofsong83

BTTT


50 posted on 11/19/2005 1:37:35 PM PST by calrighty ( Watch " The Beeber Story ", written by al baby, produced by Hugh Series. Troops BTTT)
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