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Kerry: 'Let Iraqis Stand Up for Iraq'(Calls for Bush to Show More Leadership for Troops)
ABC ^ | Nov. 19, 2005 | ABC

Posted on 11/19/2005 5:57:13 PM PST by Former Military Chick

Nov. 19, 2005 — - Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., believes U.S. troops do not necessarily need to be pulled out of Iraq right away, as a senior Democrat suggested this week, but they need more leadership from the Bush administration.

"What we need is a little more commander-in-chief, and a little less campaigner-in-chief," Kerry said in an exclusive interview on "Good Morning America Weekend Edition."

The question of whether or not troops should be withdrawn from Iraq moved to the front burner Thursday when Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., called for all the troops to be withdrawn immediately -- a call that drew charges of recklessness from the Bush administration. Vice President Dick Cheney called Murtha's press conference "reprehensible."

Members of the House of Representatives debated late into Friday night and voted down a resolution to pull the troops out of Iraq by 403-3. Although most Democrats did not support Murtha's call, Kerry, who lost the 2004 presidential election to Bush, said Murtha did not deserve to be called names like "coward" by allies of the administration.

"It's just the attack politics: The people are sick and tired of it," Kerry said. "You don't call John Murtha a coward. … I mean, Dick Cheney had five deferments in a row in Vietnam, when John Murtha went to serve."

Murtha, Kerry said, has simply added to the debate. Kerry said the Bush administration needs to outline a clear plan about what benchmarks must be reached in order to bring the troops home.

"You can differ on the policies, and we should talk about the policy," Kerry said. "The administration has continuously misled Americans about our presence. We need to have the debate and figure out how we bring our troops home in a responsible way. John Murtha is really just adding to the debate in a very personal way. This man's statements have to be taken seriously even if you don't agree with his policy."

Kerry said the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. George Casey, sent a plan to the Pentagon that outlined a timetable for withdrawal. The president of Iraq also said he had a plan to bring home 50,000 troops by Christmas. Kerry said that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld also had originally said some troops would be brought home.

Kerry added that the Bush administration was wrong to suggest that calling for a plan to bring the troops home will endanger the troops.

"Let me tell you what is endangering our troops: Sending our troops to war without adequate armor endangers our troops," Kerry said, "not guarding the ammo dumps, so that our troops are now being hurt because of ammo that wasn't properly secured when we took Baghdad. What endangers our troops is sending them to war without adequate numbers of troops to do the job."

Kerry said he has a plan to bring 20,000 troops home by Christmas. He said that if the election and referendum in Iraq are successful, troops should be brought home because the election would act as a benchmark of the troops' success.

"They deserve leadership that is equal to their sacrifice," he said. "The president doesn't have a real plan."

Although he may have sounded as if he were campaigning, Kerry said he's leaving the door open when it comes to running for president in 2008.

He said the more immediate question is how the troops will be protected. It's time, he said, to hand over some responsibility.

"Let Iraqis stand up for Iraq," Kerry said.


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You have to be kidding!!! Sheesshhh
1 posted on 11/19/2005 5:57:15 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Texas Jack
Three Democrats, Jose Serrano of New York, Robert Wexler of Florida and Cynthia McKinney of Georgia, voted for withdrawal. Six voted present: Reps. Jim McDermott of Washington; Jerrold Nadler, Maurice Hinchey and Major Owens of New York; Michael Capuano of Massachusetts and William Lacy Clay of Missouri.

You had asked this question on a previous thread House rejects troop pullout; Dems decry vote (Rep. Ford yells repub's making uncalled for attacks) comment #30

2 posted on 11/19/2005 6:00:14 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

John Kerry is just asking for a smackdown.


3 posted on 11/19/2005 6:00:39 PM PST by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Heh, I think Bush should suggest he find a sugar mama for a wife and spend his over-priviledged life advising people to do things they're already doing.


4 posted on 11/19/2005 6:01:31 PM PST by ark_girl
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To: Former Military Chick

I bet Murtha has signed HIS Form 180,

Have you, Johnny?


5 posted on 11/19/2005 6:02:25 PM PST by digger48
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To: Former Military Chick

John Kerry is such a simpleton. His team has been attacking the Commander in Chief viciously for months, yet he thinks the troops need a strong leader.

No wonder this guy is considered to be a moral wasteland.


6 posted on 11/19/2005 6:02:55 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 400/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Former Military Chick

"I voted to LEAD the troops before I voted to MISLEAD them."

We need that "Penn & Teller STFU gif!" Stat! :)


7 posted on 11/19/2005 6:03:35 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I see, Kerry is still undermining the troops! And he doesn't know a f**king thing about the Army! Let alone the Navy or anything else!


8 posted on 11/19/2005 6:03:58 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: Former Military Chick
"The administration has continuously misled Americans about our presence. "

As a Senator on the Intelligence Committee, that makes Kerry to be incompetent or an idiot... maybe both.

9 posted on 11/19/2005 6:04:05 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Let's seeSenator Kerry. Seventy Iraqis were murdered by a suicide bomber in Iraq on Friday. Iraqis are routinely being blown up at their markets, waiting in line to join the police or the army, and after they have joined those organizations. For all the blood we are shedding, I see the Iraqis shedding more, but they still came out to vote and are standing up as quickly as they can.

Dear Senator, please have a nice big cup of STFU!

10 posted on 11/19/2005 6:04:13 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Former Military Chick

I suppose when Kerry stated the Viet Namese would be fine when we pulled out of Viet Nam he didnt get enough people killed there, Now he wants a repeat of that murderous episode in Iraq.

For Kerry to say anyone is too busy campaigning is a joke, He has never stopped.

This POS makes any person with a brain want to barf.Every time I hear this human piece of feces I want to reach out and touch someone (him?) with a baseball bat.


11 posted on 11/19/2005 6:04:24 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Former Military Chick

The President doesn't have a real plan, but of course Kerry does...only it's a secret.


12 posted on 11/19/2005 6:04:43 PM PST by hershey
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To: Former Military Chick
John Kerry assures us there won't be a massacre of pro-American Vitenamese Iraqi-sympathizers once we do the honourable thing and run like Hell.
13 posted on 11/19/2005 6:04:47 PM PST by kcar (The UNsucks.com)
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To: Former Military Chick
The president doesn't have a real plan."

This guy is such a blithering moron. Glad to see he hasn't changed his tune since his loser of a campaign.

All he and his little running mate girlfriend ever said was ,"We have a plan., "I have a plan.". "What would I do? Well, I have a plan."

I can't believe this traitor gets paid with tax money.

14 posted on 11/19/2005 6:05:46 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Former Military Chick
Hey John, which side of this issue are you on today?


15 posted on 11/19/2005 6:06:10 PM PST by txroadkill (W. is back.)
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To: Former Military Chick
"What we need is a little more commander-in-chief, and a little less campaigner-in-chief," Kerry said ,coining a catch phrase for his 2008 presidential campaign.
16 posted on 11/19/2005 6:07:07 PM PST by eyespysomething (This ashtray, the paddlegame, the remote control, the lamp and the chair. That's all I need!)
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To: Former Military Chick

"What we need is a little more commander-in-chief, and a little less campaigner-in-chief,"

My best laugh of the day!

What unbelievable chutzpa! Kerry wouldn't know a commander-in-chief if one hit him in the face (nice image actually).

President Bush has more leadership in his little finger than Kerry has in his whole pampered and polished body.


17 posted on 11/19/2005 6:09:44 PM PST by Laserman
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To: Former Military Chick

Vintage John Kerry.

Talks two hours, says little of substance other than what a wonderful fellow he thinks he is.

Wonder if The Great One would refer me to somebody who would file a class action against Kerry for impersonating a sailor and embarrassing those of us who did claim that title. (Oh, yeah........he WAS an officer, so all we've got is to blame Congress for their bad taste.....again.)


18 posted on 11/19/2005 6:10:26 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: Former Military Chick
"They deserve leadership that is equal to their sacrifice," he said. "The president doesn't have a real plan."

F'n PUNK!!

19 posted on 11/19/2005 6:10:57 PM PST by fuzzthatwuz
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To: Former Military Chick

Let Kerry stand up for Kerry...
The gigolo should stop living off of the fortunes of rich widows.


20 posted on 11/19/2005 6:11:28 PM PST by citizencon
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To: eyespysomething

I sooo hope he runs again. First, the comdey. Second, my second son, an 18-years old, really wants the opportunity to vote against this aging hippie.


21 posted on 11/19/2005 6:12:47 PM PST by kcar (The UNsucks.com)
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To: fuzzthatwuz

Life was better when JF'nK wasn't showing up for work in the Senate.


22 posted on 11/19/2005 6:15:45 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Former Military Chick
"Let Iraqis stand up for Iraq," Kerry said.

We now have the fulcrum to move the mountain of history. The lever is the truth.

John Kerry called for the US to "let the South Vietnamese stand up for South Vietnam" over 30 years ago. Tens of thousands of Vietnamese died and millions more were enslaved. Millions of others in the rest of Southeast Asia, particularly Cambodia, died in the Communist "reeducation camps" of Kerry's beloved Khmer Rouge (who he says he ran guns to on his secret missions to Cambodia, remember).

Now he wants us to repeat the same cowardly policy in the Middle East. This traitor has to go.

Iraq IS exactly like Vietnam. We have won the military battles and will only "lose" now if traitors in our own country are able to force us to abandon those we have come to help by "pulling a Kerry."

23 posted on 11/19/2005 6:16:12 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: kcar

LOL, I so bet he won't get the nomination this time.

Of course, the dems have outdone their own stupidity time and time again!


24 posted on 11/19/2005 6:16:53 PM PST by eyespysomething (This ashtray, the paddlegame, the remote control, the lamp and the chair. That's all I need!)
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To: Former Military Chick

I'm getting tired of this guy. (Long string of expletives deleted.)


25 posted on 11/19/2005 6:17:34 PM PST by Kitten Festival (This thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Kerry's idea of leadership was forged on the desperate struggle he prosecuted in the Swift Boats! This allows him some "oneupsmanship" , a " leg up" to tell President Bush how to lead.

Dear Senator Kerry,

You are no leader. You led from the rear and filed for bogus Purple Hearts hastening your early exit from a theater of combat in Vietnam, without thought for your crew, only for yourself.

Senator Kerry, you are playing to a captive audience, those who can't avoid listening to you, and those who somehow have rationalized your treasonous post Vietnam War conduct at home, after your return as an erstwhile conquering hero, throwing your medals over a Whitehouse fence ( as if anyone cared), and later committing treason by meeting sub rosa with the Republic of North Vietnam's communist delegation at the Paris Peace Talks.

So who are you, a cut and run Democrat, to even think for a moment that YOU can give instruction to the bona fide, patriotic, leader of our nation, something you can never be. Just go home and Kiss some Ketchup. Enough already!!!


26 posted on 11/19/2005 6:18:28 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet; txroadkill; teenyelliott; kcar; hershey; sgtbono2002; Rummyfan; DTogo; ...
Last night, I happened to awake just as Bush was about to speak to the troops live. Have to tell you Bush seemed to have a swagger about him, that he felt emboldened by the congress and the vote. He just seemed comfortable in his words and spoke them forcefully.

Frankly, he makes Kerry a zero in the big scope of things. Of course Bush needs to continue to talk with us and remain stern and direct ... I have hope ...

Bush Rejects Calls for Iraq Withdrawal

27 posted on 11/19/2005 6:19:45 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

And here I've been holding my breath for his opinion...ahhhhhhhhh....


28 posted on 11/19/2005 6:20:19 PM PST by dubyagee (Just ranting to myself...pay no mind.)
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To: Former Military Chick
What we need is a little more commander-in-chief, and a little less campaigner-in-chief,"

Kerry is such a political bonehead. Do you think more shots of Bush among the troops is going to help the Democrats? And old purple heart just called for it. Clueless...just another one of his plans.

29 posted on 11/19/2005 6:21:05 PM PST by rhombus
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To: Former Military Chick
"What we need is a little more commander-in-chief, and a little less campaigner-in-chief,"

Rove was wrong. The president will never get re-elected at this rate.

Wait a minute........the president is not campaigning for re-election. Kerry IS seeking the rat nomination.

30 posted on 11/19/2005 6:22:02 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Breaking: Kerry's 3rd purple heart photo found, after he signed form 180! (Picture)

GI Joe isn't HALF as plastic as Lyin' Traitor Kerry.
31 posted on 11/19/2005 6:22:22 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Former Military Chick
Frankly, he makes Kerry a zero in the big scope of things. Of course Bush needs to continue to talk with us and remain stern and direct ... I have hope ...


Bump
32 posted on 11/19/2005 6:22:43 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Former Military Chick
Kerry said he has a plan

Same old tired cliche, different year.

33 posted on 11/19/2005 6:22:49 PM PST by NautiNurse
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To: Candor7

Can someone post Kerry in his blue bunny suit. That's my favorite.


34 posted on 11/19/2005 6:23:11 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

"Calls for Bush to Show More Leadership for Troops"

I dare not say what I think of that statement.
DumbA$$ - read this, look at the photos and get sugar mama to but you the video. It is of a REAL leader and REAL men that respect and admire him! &*$%#*))*^%$#%&*$@!$%&*$#@


35 posted on 11/19/2005 6:23:38 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Kerry...what a waste of protoplasm.


36 posted on 11/19/2005 6:24:14 PM PST by Busywhiskers ("...moral principle, the sine qua non of an orderly society." --Judge Edith H. Jones)
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To: Former Military Chick
"What we need is a little more commander-in-chief, and a little less campaigner-in-chief," Kerry said

Wow, that is sooo clever. I can see now why he was thought of as the more intellectual one.... /s
37 posted on 11/19/2005 6:24:47 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: fuzzthatwuz
Kerry has a Plan!

The humiliating defeat of the USA.

38 posted on 11/19/2005 6:25:34 PM PST by kcar (The UNsucks.com)
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To: Former Military Chick

Is Major Owens the turd of shark fame?


39 posted on 11/19/2005 6:25:36 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Former Military Chick
I am so tired of Kerry speaking about the troops as if they are a mistreated minority in need of a leader to stand up and take a seat at the front of the bus. They are volunteers in the Military and not a commodity to be bought and sold by moonbats looking for a cause. He and other Democrats need to stop insulting people in this way. The military doesn't need a pimp.
40 posted on 11/19/2005 6:25:52 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Phsstpok
"Let Iraqis stand up for Iraq," Kerry said.

I thought he said all we need is the French?

41 posted on 11/19/2005 6:27:12 PM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: digger48
Kerry said he has a plan

'Nuff said.

42 posted on 11/19/2005 6:27:32 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: Former Military Chick

THIS president doesn't have a plan. *I* have a plan! I, John Kerry have a plan. GeorgedoubleyouBush doesn't have a plan. THIS presidDENT doesn't have anything but the same old politics of the swift boat attacks of smear and fear the queer. I HAVE A PLAN! I have a plan. I, John Kerry...


43 posted on 11/19/2005 6:28:24 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (All Your Base Are belong To Us. Make Your Time.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I think this article describes Kerry better than I could.


http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/morris200410311242.asp

October 31, 2004, 12:42 p.m.
John Kerry’s Other Vietnam War
Why would we trust this man to be our president?

.....John Kerry's sympathy for totalitarian states in the past has resulted in the slander of millions of American Vietnam veterans, not to mention the betrayal of hundreds of missing American POWs. If he is elected president, in dealing with more powerful and dangerous totalitarian enemies like North Korea, his flawed judgment and values could have devastating consequences for all the people of America, and the world.


44 posted on 11/19/2005 6:29:13 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Former Military Chick
It's because he has his "Sh*t Kickers" on and is "Fix'n" to use 'em!


45 posted on 11/19/2005 6:31:00 PM PST by txroadkill (W. is back.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Lurch, please check out a great web site.It's called DU. Or DUmmieland. Even they, don't want you to re- run again for president. So please stop trying.Go back to the Adams family, Lurch, cause thats the only re-run anybody wants to see you in. Thanks!
46 posted on 11/19/2005 6:33:40 PM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: hershey

There he goes again......talking about his mysterious plans! Sheesh.....


47 posted on 11/19/2005 6:34:17 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
"Let Iraqis stand up for Iraq," Kerry said.

Look, TREAD! Here's another leftist talking point for you to spread around FR.

Kerry and Don't Tread.........on the exact same page. Gee, what a surprise.

48 posted on 11/19/2005 6:35:21 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
I don't have the bunny suit pic but I can't resist this one:

Image hosted by Photobucket.com

49 posted on 11/19/2005 6:35:58 PM PST by Fred Nerks (The media isn't mainstream it's the ENEMY! The enemy ENEMEDIA!)
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To: Bush gal in LA
gal, You are on official time-out. We conservatives are scared to death of the Kerry-Edwards-Dean Machine. They have a plan.
50 posted on 11/19/2005 6:37:30 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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