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Ex-Gay Ministry Leader Refutes Protesters' Anti-Reparative Therapy Claims
Agape Press ^ | 11/18/05 | Jim Brown and Jenni Parker

Posted on 11/19/2005 6:57:53 PM PST by wagglebee

Ex-homosexuals and "reparative therapy" advocates recently gathered in Marina del Rey, California, for the 13th annual conference of the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality, or NARTH. Reparative or reorientation therapy is designed to help men and women in conflict with their homosexuality attain the goal of reaching their heterosexual potential.

NARTH comprises more than 1,000 therapists, sociologists, and psychoanalysts who believe homosexuality is not inborn and can be changed. However, the organization's November 11-13 gathering in Marina del Rey (Los Angeles County) attracted an angry group of protesters, many of whom argued that reparative therapy is dangerous and encourages self-hatred in homosexuals.

However, one of the conference speakers, Exodus International president Alan Chambers, disagrees. "I myself was a homosexual man 15 years ago," he says, "and for over a decade now, I have been leading a heterosexual life. And it wasn't about me hating myself; it was about me wanting something different than what I found myself struggling with."

According to Chambers, the fact that ex-homosexuals exist invalidates the notion that homosexuality is biologically determined. And at the same time, he contends, those homosexual activists and other individuals who deny that hundreds of thousands of men and women have found freedom from homosexuality are, in effect, invalidating their own messages calling for tolerance and respect.

Among the protesters denouncing the NARTH event was homosexual L.A. City Councilman Bill Rosendahl, a practicing Catholic. According to an ExGayWatch.com blog, Rosendahl called the group's research and methods "unproven, unsafe and abusive," and described its persistence in viewing homosexuality as a condition to be corrected as "another form of rationalization for the continued persecution and prejudice against gay people."

But Chambers feels it is the councilman and the other protesters who are promoting persecution and prejudice. "It's the ultimate of hypocrisy among the small minority of the gay community and this local politician who is denying people the right to their self-determination -- denying the right for someone to choose their path in life," the Exodus International spokesman says, "and I think that's not only un-American, it's inhumane."

Chambers believes more people than ever are finding out that homosexuality is detrimental to an individual's physical, emotional, and spiritual health. And, he asserts that, as countless people -- himself included -- have demonstrated, same-sex desires can be overcome with the help of Jesus Christ.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alanchambers; exhomosexuals; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; homosexualreform; narth; reparativetherapy
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According to Chambers, the fact that ex-homosexuals exist invalidates the notion that homosexuality is biologically determined. And at the same time, he contends, those homosexual activists and other individuals who deny that hundreds of thousands of men and women have found freedom from homosexuality are, in effect, invalidating their own messages calling for tolerance and respect.

The left would actually prefer that seminars be held to persuade heterosexuals to become sodomites.

1 posted on 11/19/2005 6:57:55 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K

Homosexual agenda ping.


2 posted on 11/19/2005 6:58:20 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

No one is born that way. No one.

It's the LEFT and in this situation, "practicing" homos who wish to remain in denial - they HATE the truth.


3 posted on 11/19/2005 7:06:59 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: wagglebee

BUMP!


4 posted on 11/19/2005 7:07:20 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: wagglebee

Tolerance and respect in general is never what the homosexual groups wanted. The only tolerance they wanted was to their sexual acts, and the only respect they wanted was to homosexuals over heterosexuals.


5 posted on 11/19/2005 7:26:28 PM PST by dan1123
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To: wagglebee
angry group of protesters, many of whom argued that reparative therapy is dangerous

Yes it is -- to their twisted, selfish agenda.

6 posted on 11/19/2005 7:29:43 PM PST by Salvey (ancest)
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To: nmh

The "born that way" provides them with two uses. First, it pushes the public to accept homosexuality as "natural". Second it sticks it to the religious who believe that homosexual acts are sinful, because "how can God condemn someone when He made them that way"? Therefore discounting Christianity entirely.


7 posted on 11/19/2005 7:32:27 PM PST by dan1123
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To: wagglebee

Thank you for posting this article.
Is it any surprise that a "catholic" would have trouble grasping reality?
I was once a lesbian but am no longer. I decided I wanted to obey the Lord more than satisfy my sinful thoughts. It was really that simple. I still find women attractive, but I don't lust over them. I am happy and at peace with God over this issue.


8 posted on 11/19/2005 7:36:29 PM PST by MeekMom (Praise Jesus! We have so much to be thankful for!)
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To: MeekMom
Is it any surprise that a "catholic" would have trouble grasping reality?

What exactly do you mean by this?

9 posted on 11/19/2005 7:44:23 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

The catholic had a problem with understanding that one is not born gay. That's my point. No one is born gay. Period.


10 posted on 11/19/2005 7:51:19 PM PST by MeekMom (Praise Jesus! We have so much to be thankful for!)
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To: wagglebee
Having had a lot more contact with gays than I suspect the average person here has, I've come around to the idea that homosexuality is a genetic propensity rather than an environmental one. I suspect that the "success stories" of Reparative Therapy were either not all that gay, or decided that they'd rather climb back into the closet than deal with the stress of family/social ostracism.

Flame away.

11 posted on 11/19/2005 7:58:02 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: MeekMom

So why make the remark about his being Catholic?


12 posted on 11/19/2005 8:01:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Ask your evolutionist how a "gay" gene can survive even a dozen generations. If you prefer inquire of your intelligent designer what he had in mind if he made homosexuality a built in.


13 posted on 11/19/2005 8:07:45 PM PST by dr huer
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To: dr huer

I agree, and it really doesn't have much to do with the theory of evolution. If homosexuality were actually genetic, homosexuality would have ceased to exist thousands of years ago due to the fact that the gene would have disappeared through the elimination of reproduction.


14 posted on 11/19/2005 8:13:06 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: MeekMom

God bless you! You made the right decision for your life and your child(ren).


15 posted on 11/19/2005 8:25:19 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. George W. Bush)
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To: Zeroisanumber

Why do you agree with the reports of one group (gays) over the reports of another group (ex-gays)? There is no objective proof one way or another, just personal bias in choosing one over another.


16 posted on 11/19/2005 8:26:18 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Zeroisanumber

This isn't a flame. Just pointing out that many therapists and counselors, over many years, have helped thousands of homosexuals leave the "gay" life. A lot more experience, time, sheer numbers and knowledge than your opinion based on anecdotal homosexuals you have personally known.


17 posted on 11/19/2005 8:28:17 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Zeroisanumber

Recent research into brain recovery from trauma like stroke points to the brain's ability to grow larger in areas that receive a lot of cognitive attention; therefore, the brain of a violinist at death will be structured differently from the brain of an administrator, etc. Much of what may appear to you to be the result of genetics may actually be the result of repeated thoughts and behaviors.


18 posted on 11/19/2005 8:28:41 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. George W. Bush)
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To: dr huer
A number of homosexuals do not discover their orientation until after they start families.

( How they do that is beyond me. The thought of having homosexual sex is so off putting, that I cannot imagine how they could have opposite sex if they are wired for same sex)

19 posted on 11/19/2005 8:29:31 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: wagglebee
If homosexuality were actually genetic, homosexuality would have ceased to exist thousands of years ago due to the fact that the gene would have disappeared through the elimination of reproduction.

Well, no, because in past generations there was no discrete social category for homosexuality. Everyone was expected to marry and reproduce, and most gave it a whack, although there were certainly many complaints about some of the effeminate husbands of the upper classes who sired heirs but fooled around with other men and neglected their wives.

20 posted on 11/19/2005 8:32:37 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. George W. Bush)
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