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Ex-Gay Ministry Leader Refutes Protesters' Anti-Reparative Therapy Claims
Agape Press ^ | 11/18/05 | Jim Brown and Jenni Parker

Posted on 11/19/2005 6:57:53 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: little jeremiah
Just walked in the door a while ago - will be a-pinging what I can tomorrow.

DirtyHarryY2K beat you to it.

41 posted on 11/19/2005 10:03:00 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

Thank you, scripter, for doing what you do so well. Spreading the truth for all to see, with a good will.


42 posted on 11/19/2005 10:12:11 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Last Dakotan
Does LA not have a Bishop?

You did ask that tongue in cheek, didn't you?

If it was a real question, the answer is: in name only.

43 posted on 11/19/2005 11:27:25 PM PST by MSSC6644
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To: scripter
Yes, zero is a number. It reflects the existing evidence for a gay gene. And no, this is not a flame.

Just to be fair though...have they found a heterosexual gene?

In my opinion based on anecdotal evidence I can count without taking my shoes off, homosexuality seems to crops up from childhood trauma/deficiencies.

It is funny to hear homosexual advocators condeming an unhappy gay man using counceling to become a happy straight man....but whole-heartedly take to the idea of an unhappy man getting his penis chopped off to become a happy sort-of-woman.

44 posted on 11/20/2005 5:41:07 AM PST by PropheticZero
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To: PropheticZero
Just to be fair though...have they found a heterosexual gene?

That's a great question. From what I've read on the subject, nobody is looking for a heterosexual gene. I don't believe there's a lot of research behind the root causes of pedophilia, but they haven't found a pedophilia gene either. As I see it, sexuality can be fluid in those confused about their sexual identity. It's quite a complex issue. As I see it, biology and ex-gays speak volumes.

In my opinion based on anecdotal evidence I can count without taking my shoes off, homosexuality seems to crops up from childhood trauma/deficiencies.

The first article from the list of articles in post 37 is an excellent summary of the issue: How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together. We (there's a team of us here) have collected a lot of information on the subject. What has been posted in this thread is what I believe to be an excellent summary of the information. See my profile for more information.

It is funny to hear homosexual advocators condeming an unhappy gay man using counceling to become a happy straight man....but whole-heartedly take to the idea of an unhappy man getting his penis chopped off to become a happy sort-of-woman.

It sounds like you're saying there is some inconsistencies from some homosexual advocates, and if so, I would agree.

Because homosexuals are often shunned by those who seem to forget homosexuals are human, I try to consider how my writing comes across to those struggling with same-sex desires. But not just my writing - my actions as well.

What I mean is:

We see inconsistencies coming from some homosexual advocates and I have to wonder if my writing here exacerbates the problem. While I completely disagree with the homosexual lifestyle, I want to make it clear that I'm condemning the behavior and not the person. For heaping the wrong attitude towards some folks, we may be alienating them even further and in doing so, acting as a factor in their inconsistencies.

Of course, no matter what we say to some folks, they're so jaded they don't really hear what we're saying.

45 posted on 11/20/2005 9:06:43 AM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: gidget7

Its not natural under ANY definition of the word. Just because one likes it or feels predisposed to engage in it doesn't make it natural.


46 posted on 11/20/2005 10:37:44 AM PST by 1L
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To: MSSC6644
If it was a real question, the answer is: in name only.

He has a city councilman, living the gay lifestyle and speaking as a catholic.

He has got a problem.

47 posted on 11/20/2005 10:51:47 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
He has got a problem.

I seriously doubt that he would think he has a problem. I seriously doubt that Cardinal Mahoney believes there is anything wrong with living the homosexual lifestyle.

48 posted on 11/20/2005 1:20:08 PM PST by MSSC6644
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To: MSSC6644

Well, then we all have the problem. I don't know if the Vatican really understands the depth of the problem within certain dioceses in the US.


49 posted on 11/20/2005 4:18:54 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: MeekMom

Bless you and thanks for sharing your experience.


50 posted on 11/21/2005 4:07:44 PM PST by TenaciousZ
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