Posted on 11/20/2005 12:51:07 PM PST by Icelander
I assume you are talking about the technicality I mentioned. I agree that the Constitution says what it says. I think that a reasonable court might have found a way not to intrude in the government's handling of battle field detainees whether they happened to be US citizens or not, but particularly if they happened to be merely technical US citizens and had essentially never lived in the US after their parents moved them out at a young age. Reasonable courts don't put the executive nor the legislature in the position where they might have to reduce our rights to protect the nation.
Lawyers, particularly Supreme Court level lawyers, are suppose to be good at distinguishing cases and isn't the ability to distinguish cases and get the "desired" outcome what makes for famous, well respected jurists? Maybe the Surpreme Court will finally find a way to do this.
Sounds like this already addressed in the 14th. Amending again won't make any difference if this is already ignored. It will just make another clause to ignore.
About 30 years overdue...
But better late than never...
It goes without saying that this does not apply to children of two legal native-born citizens...
Doesn't sound like such a bad idea. It seems silly to give the newborn automatic citizenship in preference to the parents. It might be tradition, but so is the one remaining reason for the British monarchy. On the other hand, I'm curious about just how much it would affect U.S. immigration.
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That's another goofy provision (constitutional or otherwise). Voters can and should decide for themselves whether a U.S. citizen is sufficiently American or not to hold the office of the Presidency. If you think they'd put some wierdo like Tom Lantos in office, we might as well ban free elections and put the Supreme Court in charge of everything.
Well of course it's to do the job's most American's won't do..!
Get with the program...!!
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It's because of that crap that I made this parody on what to send the RNC when they ask for money. I even released a supersized printer-friendly version for such use. :o)
They get a copy of this every time I get a letter for donations.
CITIZENSHIP NEED NOT BE REDEFINED
It is just a problem with immigration law. Just because some kid is a constitutional citizen by being born here, the Constitution does not require you let the whole family in. All that is needed is a change in the statutes not to allow the child's status to prevent deportation of illegal parents. That's not against the Constitution. The choice then to be given them is for the child to stay and be permanently and anonymously adopted by U.S. citizens without disclosure of status or for the parents to renounce in writing the child's U.S. citizenship and take the child back with them. Yes, that is hard-hearted. But what is so complicated about changing immigration law?
Way overdue, but better late than never. It won't take the quisling crowd long to attack this as "unfair", "xenophobic" and "racist".
A ban on birthright citizenship would simply make the child the same nationality as its parents. It would not affect children born to legal resident aliens or to naturalized citizens. It would affect children born to illegal aliens and to people here on temporary non-immigrant visas.
"There's no place for it," Selzer said. "It would require a constitutional amendment and striking one of the best constitutional amendments we've ever had.
I'd love to know why he thinks this is the "best constitutional amendment we've ever had".
"Let's make it clear that everyone is equal under the law."
If that was true, there would be close to zero illegal aliens in this country and employers of illegal aliens would have either been fined or jailed by now.
What "anti-Mexican faction" are you referring to? Or are you just blowing hot air for the hell of it?
I agree, but as I told BQ earlier, I am cynical this will go anywhere.
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Yes, I feel the same way. Never under estimate the ability of our Hispandering GOP Big Tent Washington crapweasels to cave at the first whiff of gunpowder from the pro-illegal alien Rats.
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