Posted on 11/20/2005 5:32:28 PM PST by Chi-townChief
"There's a kind of ban on discussing this and critics of the evolution theory are discredited or discriminated against from the start," he said.
Pretty much nails it.
"There's a kind of ban on discussing this and critics of the evolution theory are discredited or discriminated against from the start," he said.
Evolutionism, as the Cardinal cites, is dogma, not science. Essentially, what we have in the scientific community is a binding article of faith, doubts notwithstanding. "If anyone denies the progression from goo to zoo to you, let him be anathama!"
"Can we reasonably say the origin of man and life can only be explained by material causes?" he asked. "Can matter create intelligence? That is a question we can't answer scientifically, because the scientific method cannot grasp it."
What has amazed me the most about this topic, is that everyone
on the Darwinian side of this can not concede an inch to a creator.
But we are supposed to be open minded enough to see their side of the argument.
Typical libs...agree with me, but I'll never agree with you
Just read Hebrews 11:3
"everyone on the Darwinian side of this can not concede an inch to a creator. "
No shortage of those on FR.
"Can we reasonably say the origin of man and life can only be explained by material causes?" he asked. "Can matter create intelligence? That is a question we can't answer scientifically, because the scientific method cannot grasp it."It's more like there's no reason matter cannot create intelligence, there's no evidence of some kind of separate supernatural organ called a "soul" that somehow produces a mind apart from the brain, there's a ton of evidence that thoughts are always accompanied by electrochemical changes in the brain, and there's a lot of clinical evidence that damage to the material brain causes many (usually damaging) effects to the nonmaterial mind.
Does that make it a "proven" case in a strictly deductive sense? No. But it's quite compelling, and it does put the onus on the believers in the existence of a "soul" thingy or some other non-material cause to put some positive evidence on the table.
Our resident science PHDs will be here to debunk all the religion nonsense.
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"Common sense tells us that matter cannot organize itself,"
If it's wrong to point to a gap and say, "God did it," it's also wrong to point to a materially-explainable phenomenon and say, "Since we see that the molecules did such and such, obviously God didn't do it."
"Vienna cardinal..."
WTF?
First: Cardinal ought to be capitalized when referring to a specific man.
Second: He is either a Viennese Cardinal (any cardinal originally descendant from the people of Vienna), or more likely he is the Cardinal of Vienna. "Vienna Cardinal" is a nonsensical pairing of two nouns.
Nevermind. It's Reuters. [spit]
As with so many things from relativity to quantum theory, common sense is wrong.
Birth. January 22, 1945, Skalsko, diocese of Litomerice, Bohemia, Czechoslovakia. Son of Maria Hugo Damian Adalbert Josef Hubertus von Schönborn and Eleonore von Doblhoff. His baptismal name is Christoph Maria Michael Hugo Damian Peter Adalbert. His family moved to Austria in September 1945. Besides his native German, he speaks English, French and Italian.
Education. Joined Order of Preachers, 1963. Dominican houses of studies in Walberberg, Bonn, Germany; Le Saulchoir, Paris (doctorate in theology). "École Practique de Hautes Études", La Sorbonne University, Paris; "Institute Catholique", Paris.
Priesthood. Ordained, December 27, 1970, Vienna, by Cardinal Franz König, archbishop of Vienna. Further studies, 1970-1974. Chaplain to university students, Graz, Austria, 1973-1975. Faculty member, University of Fribourg, Switzerland, 1976-1991. Member of International Theological Commission, 1980-1991; of Foundation "Pro Oriente", 1984-1991. Attended II Extraordinary Assembly of the World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, November 24-December 8, 1985; assistant to special secretary. Faculty member, Superior Philosophical School of Cisterciense Abbey of Heiligenkreuz, Vienna, Austria. Secretary of the commission of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to edit the new Catechism of the Catholic Church (1987-1992).
Episcopate. Elected titular bishop of Sutri and appointed auxiliary of Vienna, July 11, 1991. Consecrated, September 29, 1991, Vienna, by Cardinal Hans Hermann Groër, O.S.B., archbishop of Vienna. Promoted to archbishop coadjutor with right of succession of Vienna, April 13, 1995. Succeeded to metropolitan see of Vienna, September 14, 1995.
Cardinalate. Created cardinal priest in the consistory of February 21, 1998; received the red biretta and the title of Gesù Divin Lavoratore, February 23, 1998. President of Austrian Episcopal Conference, 1998-. Attended II Special Assembly for Europe of the World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, October 1 to 23, 1999. Participated in the conclave of April 18 to 19, 2005.
Links. Photo, arms and biography, in German; and genealogy, 8a, 2g.
Until we look at some water turning to ice crystals... :-/
Bump for logic!
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