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Time to Leave (Time to Surrender)
NY Slime ^ | November 21 2005 | PAUL KRUGMAN

Posted on 11/20/2005 10:01:13 PM PST by jmc1969

Not long ago wise heads offered some advice to those of us who had argued since 2003 that the Iraq war was sold on false pretenses: give it up. The 2004 election, they said, showed that we would never convince the American people. They suggested that we stop talking about how we got into Iraq and focus instead on what to do next.

It turns out that the wise heads were wrong. A solid majority of Americans now believe that we were misled into war. And it is only now, when the public has realized the truth about the past, that serious discussions about where we are and where we're going are able to get a hearing.

Representative John Murtha's speech calling for a quick departure from Iraq was full of passion, but it was also serious and specific in a way rarely seen on the other side of the debate. President Bush and his apologists speak in vague generalities about staying the course and finishing the job. But Mr. Murtha spoke of mounting casualties and lagging recruiting, the rising frequency of insurgent attacks, stagnant oil production and lack of clean water.

The only way to justify staying in Iraq is to make the case that stretching the U.S. army to its breaking point will buy time for something good to happen. I don't think you can make that case convincingly. So Mr. Murtha is right: it's time to leave.

(Excerpt) Read more at select.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: cutandrun; handwringers; krugman; murtha
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To: jmc1969
So Paul Krudmunch is taking time off from advocating for the destruction of capitalism to advocating for the destruction of freedom.

I bet his mother can't stand him.

21 posted on 11/20/2005 10:24:59 PM PST by smoothsailing (540th TC (AM)(GS) QuiNhon 68-69)
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To: jmc1969

Yeah, Paul, and George Washington should have cut his losses and not crossed the Delaware.


22 posted on 11/20/2005 10:26:21 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: jmc1969

Isn't the New York Times yesterday's news?


23 posted on 11/20/2005 10:36:34 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: jmc1969
Paul Krugman is a professor at Princeton. As such, he should be aware of the career of Neville Chamberlain and the "peace in our time" that he obtained by not fighting Hitler, in 1939. And if Krugman is aware of this, then there is no way he can justify the geopolitical drivel he writes in this column.

He and his newspaper are simultaneously dishonest, ludicrous, and wrong. Quite a trifecta, but they've achieved that before. Many times.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "What If the French Had Pulled a 'Murtha' in 1781?"

24 posted on 11/20/2005 10:37:41 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: jmc1969
"Paul you ever notice that I never ask condescending questions to demagogue liberals such as yourself?"

"Yes Jon I have and thank you for being a loyal left wing butt-swab."
25 posted on 11/20/2005 10:39:25 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: jmc1969

Well, we've found one of Times Select's 150,000 subscribers. Anymore out there?


26 posted on 11/20/2005 10:43:47 PM PST by tanuki
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To: tanuki

So when are those other 150,000 going to figure out it's much cheaper just to read it online than to pay for a regular subscription -- and eliminate a forest a day?


27 posted on 11/20/2005 10:50:20 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: jmc1969

Paul Krugman, the Marxist of the millenium. Has there EVER been a wrong-headed, misguided and anti-American position this loser hasn't agreed with?


28 posted on 11/20/2005 10:50:55 PM PST by MikeA
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To: jmc1969
Don't tell me you paid for this!

I love how Krug's a little behind the times. The Pubbies smoked out the RATs, they had to tell their moonbat constituency that, no, they weren't for an immediate pullout after all.

29 posted on 11/20/2005 10:53:06 PM PST by AmishDude (Mathematics -- better than science, harder than science, and always true. Always.)
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To: jmc1969

Hey, Paul!

There is a difference. http://www.pottymouth.org/humor/shinola.html


30 posted on 11/20/2005 10:54:53 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: tanuki

Actually no I don't subscribe, it doesn't mean I can't find passwords for these news sites.


31 posted on 11/20/2005 10:56:16 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: PhilipFreneau

When will we learn how manipulated polls are?????? We can't believe the MSM and we can't believe their polls. The majority of people in this country still support Bush. Who else can a sensible person support? George Soros? Kennedy?Clinton? Biden? Schumer? Kerry? We're toast if we don't stand behind Bush in the fight against terrorism. Wake up! We're in World War III.


32 posted on 11/20/2005 11:17:00 PM PST by dimmer-rats stealvotes (Catching onto the FOX Fonies)
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To: JRios1968

I think he was being sarcastic.


33 posted on 11/20/2005 11:27:31 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: jmc1969

re: "A solid majority of Americans now believe that we were misled into war"

A more accurate description would be that a solid majority of Americans have been misled into believing that we were misled into a war.



34 posted on 11/21/2005 2:17:01 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: JRios1968
Just call me "CUT AND RUN" Liberal, socialist, elitist, dummycrat, and I will be rinning for the US Senate in 06!

Did he say "rimming?"
35 posted on 11/21/2005 2:45:51 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: All

Surrendering, giving ground to Islamo-facists, betraying the Iraqi people, destroying troop moral, making the United States look weak, small price to pay for bringing George Bush down.

The United States is one country divided by who it thinks is the enemy.

The libs don't hate the war, they hate Bush. Their hatred for Bush is the sun in their universe. It illumines all else.


36 posted on 11/21/2005 3:12:40 AM PST by looloo
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To: JRios1968

37 posted on 11/21/2005 5:11:00 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Or just living dangerously. Beware the overly sensitive.
38 posted on 11/21/2005 5:21:16 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: jmc1969
He needs to get in touch with the jackass demoncrats who voted against leaving when their bluff was called. What a POS liberal!
39 posted on 11/21/2005 5:42:24 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: jmc1969

Was going to read the article until I saw who wrote it.


40 posted on 11/21/2005 6:17:56 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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