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Group ranks most dangerous U.S. cities
CNN ^ | Nov 21st, 2005

Posted on 11/21/2005 12:17:54 PM PST by laney

CAMDEN, New Jersey (AP) -- For the second year in a row this destitute city of Camden, New Jersey, has been named the nation's most dangerous, according to a company's annual ranking based on crime statistics.

Last year, the distinction seemed to hurt city boosters' feelings more than it harmed revitalization efforts. This time, city leaders are offended by the ranking, calling it unfair.

"We're doing so many nice things now. It's unfortunate that somebody always wants to bad-mouth Camden," Mayor Gwendolyn Faison said.

The city took the top spot last year from Detroit, which remained No. 2 in the most dangerous city rankings, to be released Monday by Morgan Quitno Press.

The Lawrence, Kansas-based company publishes "City Crime Rankings," an annual reference book.

Listed as the most dangerous cities are: Camden, New Jersey; Detroit, Michigan; St. Louis, Missouri; Flint, Michigan; Richmond, Virginia; Baltimore, Maryland; Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; Gary, Indiana; Birmingham, Alabama

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1 posted on 11/21/2005 12:17:55 PM PST by laney
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To: laney

Can't be true - New Jersey has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation...and we all know that guns cause crime.


2 posted on 11/21/2005 12:19:49 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: laney
Here's the correct link...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/21/camden.crime.ap/index.html
3 posted on 11/21/2005 12:20:27 PM PST by Borges
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To: All

The cities named *SAFEST* were
Newton, Massachusetts; Clarkstown, New York; Amherst, New York; Mission Viejo, California; Brick Township, New Jersey; Troy, Michigan; Thousand Oaks, California; Round Rock, Texas; Lake Forest, California; Cary, North Carolina.


4 posted on 11/21/2005 12:21:07 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: laney

I don't know about Richmond, but those other cities are all bastions of liberalism.


5 posted on 11/21/2005 12:21:34 PM PST by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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To: laney

You can add the Tacoma, WA Mall to that list after yesterday.


6 posted on 11/21/2005 12:21:37 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: 2banana

All by themselves....................


7 posted on 11/21/2005 12:21:51 PM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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To: laney

We in Milwaukee will put our Murder rate up against the very best or worst.


8 posted on 11/21/2005 12:22:28 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: loreldan

Richmond has a tremendous amount of crime..


10 posted on 11/21/2005 12:22:48 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: laney

Just thought of this. Why isn't Washington, D.C. on this list? Isn't Congress still in D.C.?


11 posted on 11/21/2005 12:22:50 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: laney

nice to know they want me to travel there to see our state aquarium


12 posted on 11/21/2005 12:23:41 PM PST by kendu
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To: laney
The cities named *SAFEST* were - Newton, Massachusetts...

Ya, Jews aren't exactly known for the car-jackings, murders and rapes that the good folks in Camden and Detroit are known for.

13 posted on 11/21/2005 12:24:34 PM PST by BostonianRightist ("Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ~ Senator AuH2O)
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To: SteveMcKing

None of those cities are out west...


14 posted on 11/21/2005 12:24:52 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: SteveMcKing

Now, now, now. Let's not bring a racial mixture into this!!!!!!


15 posted on 11/21/2005 12:24:59 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: RetiredArmy
"Just thought of this. Why isn't Washington, D.C. on this list? Isn't Congress still in D.C.?"

DC does all sorts of gymnastics to not get included on these lists when it doesn't fit them. They probably decided they would be a US District, not a US City, this year. This is how they get out of state statistics, especially the "States with the poorest education rates" statistics.

Of course when ESPN came around with their 50 broadcasts from 50 states event, DC decided they would be classified as a state and bitched and moaned until ESPN included them.
16 posted on 11/21/2005 12:26:47 PM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: SteveMcKing
Memphis, Tennessee, would be on the list but the city officials have been falsifying the data for the past couple of years to make it look safer. The murder rate for Memphis this year is breaking all records. Memphis also ranks 1st in car theft.
17 posted on 11/21/2005 12:27:21 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: laney

How many of them allow CCWs for all citizens?


18 posted on 11/21/2005 12:27:27 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: SteveMcKing

Hmmm the majority of the ciies have Democrat mayors?


19 posted on 11/21/2005 12:28:07 PM PST by sitkaspruce
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To: SteveMcKing

dim mayors? what did I win?


20 posted on 11/21/2005 12:29:45 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: RetiredArmy

"Blue" is a race, made up of every race.


21 posted on 11/21/2005 12:30:13 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: RetiredArmy

Hmmm, how about, "cultural mixture", then ? Actually I find that far more appropriate. It's not about race. It's about culture. When you have a culture that equates success with treason and "selling out", it really doesn't matter what color are the adherents of that culture.


22 posted on 11/21/2005 12:30:45 PM PST by farlander
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To: laney
"We're doing so many nice things now. It's unfortunate that somebody always wants to bad-mouth Camden," Mayor Gwendolyn Faison said.

I guess this year we have a kinder gentler Camden.

23 posted on 11/21/2005 12:31:06 PM PST by stevem
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To: SteveMcKing

Can't be blue. GA and Bama are red states.


24 posted on 11/21/2005 12:31:22 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: laney

How does Baghdad compare?

I just heard on the radio the the GA State Patrol expects 13 fatalities on Georgia roads this Thanksgiving weekend over a five day period.

Maybe we should ban driving and pullout of this whole dangerous travel quagmire we've got ourselves into.


25 posted on 11/21/2005 12:32:25 PM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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To: laney

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/21/camden.crime.ap/index.html


26 posted on 11/21/2005 12:34:11 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: loreldan

Richmond city is, like most urban areas, a long-time beneficiary of Democrat solutions...unlike the surrounding counties, which tend to vote more conservatively. The city will vote Democrat until the last voter either moves or is murdered. 99% of the violent crime is underclass drug stuff so if you don't deliver pizzas to the projects you don't have much to worry about.


28 posted on 11/21/2005 12:36:35 PM PST by dogcaller
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To: MEG33

Thank you..


29 posted on 11/21/2005 12:36:52 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: BostonianRightist
Ya, Jews aren't exactly known for the car-jackings, murders and rapes that the good folks in Camden and Detroit are known for.

That really isn't what all of the ten safest have in common. They all seem to be pretty wealthy, and not actually cities in terms of having the full spectrum of problems.

The issue, as I look at the list, is more likely to be income levels. All of the poor 10 (except maybe Atlanta) are decaying inner cities with little job opportunity, growth, or promise.

30 posted on 11/21/2005 12:38:37 PM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: RobFromGa


And pull out of Southwest Houston, which averages about 5 fatalities a weak.


31 posted on 11/21/2005 12:39:37 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: 2banana

NOLA cannot be considered dangerous at this point. The riffraff, gang bangers, and thugs were washed out of the city by Katrina, and most will not be back. The city's complexion was irrevocably altered by Mother Nature.


32 posted on 11/21/2005 12:43:53 PM PST by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: laney
Happily posting from the 4th safest city, Mission Viejo, bathing in the warm sun filtering down from clear skies with highs nearly ninety. Take that, all you Kali hating Freepers!
33 posted on 11/21/2005 12:45:08 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: loreldan

I don't know about the others, but Round Rock is in Williamson County and it is the "reddest" of red. Twenty miles to the south is the San Francisco of Texas--Austin.


34 posted on 11/21/2005 12:46:22 PM PST by Comstock1 (I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all outta bubble gum!)
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To: laney

So, is there a correlation between blue areas and crime ridden cities?


35 posted on 11/21/2005 12:47:41 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: BostonianRightist
Ya,Jews aren't exactly known for the car-jackings, murders and rapes that the good folks in Camden and Detroit are known for.

Having grown up on the south side of Newton (the non-working class part),I've always been amazed by how easily a punk from Roxbury could drive down Route 9 and be in a neighborhood of million dollar (plus) homes.

If they ever figure that out,I sincerely doubt that the NPD would be up to the task of stopping them.

36 posted on 11/21/2005 12:47:55 PM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Happily posting from the 4th safest city,Mission Viejo,bathing in the warm sun filtering down...

I'll take blizzards and hurricanes over earthquakes and mudslides any day!

37 posted on 11/21/2005 12:51:00 PM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: laney
There are various rankings by population group for safest and most dangerous:

Cities 75,000-99,999: Newton, MA, safest; Camden, NJ, most dangerous
Cities 100,000-499,999: Amherst, NY, safest; St. Louis, MO, most dangerous
Cities 500,000 or more: San Jose, CA, safest; Detroit, MI, most dangerous
Metropolitan areas: Logan, UT-ID, safest; Detroit-Livonia-Dearborn, MI M.D., most dangerous
States: North Dakota, safest; Nevada, most dangerous

38 posted on 11/21/2005 12:54:08 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Just outside St. Louis City, in St. Louis County, MO)
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To: RetiredArmy
Sure, Ga and Al are red states, but Birmingham and Atlanta are solid blue islands in a red sea.
39 posted on 11/21/2005 12:56:22 PM PST by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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To: RetiredArmy

17 MOST DANGEROUS STATES:
1. Nevada
2. Louisiana
3. Arizona
4. Maryland
5. South Carolina
6. Florida
7. Tennessee
8. Alaska
9. New Mexico
10. California
11. Texas
12. Michigan
13. Georgia
14. Oklahoma
15. Delaware
16. Illinois
17. Mississippi

17 SAFEST STATES:
1. North Dakota
2. Vermont
3. Maine
4. New Hampshire
5. South Dakota
6. Wyoming
7. West Virginia
8. Iowa
9. Wisconsin
10. Idaho
11. Montana
12. Connecticut
13. Virginia
14. Kentucky
15. Minnesota
16. Nebraska
17. Utah


40 posted on 11/21/2005 12:56:51 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Just outside St. Louis City, in St. Louis County, MO)
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To: SteveMcKing
Something about those cities... can't quite put my finger on it though.

They are all majority black:

1. Camden, New Jersey, Black (53.3%)
2. Detroit, Michigan, Black (81.6%)
3. St. Louis, Missouri, Black (51.2%)
4. Flint, Michigan, Black (53.3%)
5. Richmond, Virginia, Black (57.2%)
6. Baltimore, Maryland, Black (64.3%)
7. Atlanta, Georgia, Black (61.4%)
8. New Orleans, Louisiana, Black (67.3%)
9. Gary, Indiana, Black (84.0%)
10.Birmingham, Alabama, Black (73.5%)

41 posted on 11/21/2005 12:57:50 PM PST by Skylab
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To: SteveMcKing
ur# 9......'ACLU' heavens all,........

don't forget to add,.........................Boulder, Colorado

and,.....

(Jesus will 'Rapture' the CHURCH,.....NOT the Kingdom!!!)

42 posted on 11/21/2005 12:58:33 PM PST by maestro
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To: grania
All of the poor 10 (except maybe Atlanta) are decaying inner cities with little job opportunity, growth, or promise.

No. Atlanta "proper" consists of several small islands of wealth floating in a dangerous sea of New Orleans-style, thug-controlled, entitlement-mentality mayhem.

The outer rings of suburbs are where the money and the sanity are.

43 posted on 11/21/2005 12:58:38 PM PST by AngryJawa (NRA)
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To: vetvetdoug

Most Dangerous 25 Metros:
1 Detroit-Livonia-Dearborn, MI M.D.
2 New Orleans, LA
3 Memphis, TN-MS-AR
4 Sumter, SC
5 Miami-Dade County, FL M.D.
6 Stockton, CA
7 Las Vegas-Paradise, NV
8 Florence, SC
9 Hot Springs, AR
10 Myrtle Beach, SC
11 Pine Bluff, AR
12 Flint, MI
13 Saginaw, MI
14 Little Rock, AR
15 Tucson, AZ
16 Modesto, CA
17 Albuquerque, NM
18 Jackson, TN
19 Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC
20 Baltimore-Towson, MD
21 Wichita Falls, TX
22 Houston, TX
23 Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ
24 Tallahassee, FL
25 Los Angeles County, CA M.D.

Safest 25 Metros:
1 Logan, UT-ID
2 Fond du Lac, WI
3 Glens Falls, NY
4 Appleton, WI
5 Sheboygan, WI
6 Columbus, IN
7 La Crosse, WI-MN
8 Oshkosh-Neenah, WI
9 Bangor, ME
10 Bismarck, ND
11 Eau Claire, WI
12 State College, PA
13 Binghamton, NY
14 Wausau, WI
15 Fargo, ND-MN
16 Nassau-Suffolk, NY M.D.
17 Portland, ME
18 Rockingham County, NH M.D.
19 Edison, NJ M.D.
20 Williamsport, PA
21 Owensboro, KY
22 Elizabethtown, KY
23 Jefferson City, MO
24 Harrisonburg, VA
25 Rochester, MN


44 posted on 11/21/2005 12:58:55 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Just outside St. Louis City, in St. Louis County, MO)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

You got it! Me also Kali Freeper! Such wonderful weather we are having! :)


45 posted on 11/21/2005 12:59:30 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: Skylab

BLUE. The word is "BLUE".

Sheesh....


46 posted on 11/21/2005 1:00:33 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: Gay State Conservative
It is surprising how rich, safe cities can always be so close to welfare-dependant, crime-ridden cities.

It seems the only time a crime is committed in Newton or Wellesley is when the criminal is a kid bussed over from Dot or Roxbury - for "diverse" reasons, of course.

47 posted on 11/21/2005 1:01:51 PM PST by BostonianRightist ("Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ~ Senator AuH2O)
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To: RetiredArmy

Washington, D(istrict of) C(riminals) is a remarkably small city ... its population is just under the threshold usually used for these crime-rate rankings.


48 posted on 11/21/2005 1:01:57 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RetiredArmy

"Can't be blue. GA and Bama are red states"

I wonder if Atlanta is in a blue county though. That would be my guess.

Ohio is a nominally red state too, but up here around Cuyahoga county (the Cleveland area), forget it: true blue.


49 posted on 11/21/2005 1:03:56 PM PST by Pessimist
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To: laney

;)


50 posted on 11/21/2005 1:04:03 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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