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Only 40 Genes Separate Your Pet Dog From A Wolf
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-22-2005 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 11/21/2005 6:18:45 PM PST by blam

Only 40 genes separate your pet dog from a wolf

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
(Filed: 22/11/2005)

The difference between an obedient, friendly dog and a big bad wolf could be down to as few as 40 genes, according to a study into tameness.

The research also found that to adapt to a life on the farm or in the home takes many more changes in gene activity than that required to love humans.

A Swedish team compared two groups of farm-raised silver foxes in Siberia, one where for 40 generations the foxes have been selected for their friendly nature, while the other was raised in the farm but not selected for tameness. The comparison was reported yesterday in the journal Current Biology by Dr Elena Jazin and colleagues at Uppsala University, the Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences, and the Norwegian University of Life Science.

In the tame foxes, they found surprisingly limited changes in gene activity in the brain compared with the non-selected silver foxes. Foxes have about 25,000 genes.

When compared with wild foxes both groups had 3,000 differences. There were a similar number of differences with dogs revealing that being friendly to humans takes far fewer genetic changes than being domesticated.


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KEYWORDS: 40; agriculture; animalhusbandry; dog; doggieping; dogs; genes; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; only; pet; seperate; siberia; wolf
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1 posted on 11/21/2005 6:18:46 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

More like two.


2 posted on 11/21/2005 6:19:44 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: blam
an obedient, friendly dog and a big bad wolf

Both are better than cats.

3 posted on 11/21/2005 6:21:04 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: blam

I have 2 Huskies...

I wonder what the difference is there....probably less than 10 genes is my guess.....


4 posted on 11/21/2005 6:21:46 PM PST by MikefromOhio (We (still) don't give a damn for the WHOLE state of Michigan.....)
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To: blam
My family had a German Shepherd. We could physically see the wolf in his form. However, nurture (and pampering... and spoiling) created a 110 pound lap dog.
5 posted on 11/21/2005 6:22:22 PM PST by JAWs
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To: blam

Say what?

6 posted on 11/21/2005 6:25:02 PM PST by kstewskis ("Thank you ladies and gentlemen, you've been a wonderful audience" ...Rocky Rhodes)
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To: kstewskis

OK,
in his case,
mebby 80 genes ;)


7 posted on 11/21/2005 6:26:07 PM PST by najida (Chocolate...it's what's for dinner.)
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To: peyton randolph

Don't diss the Viking Kitties.


8 posted on 11/21/2005 6:26:39 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: blam
American Indian Dog. Bred from Wolf, Coyote and Domestics for appearance.


9 posted on 11/21/2005 6:27:53 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: HairOfTheDog

ping


10 posted on 11/21/2005 6:29:00 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: blam

Well, 40 is alot more than separates us from chimps, IIRC.


11 posted on 11/21/2005 6:31:33 PM PST by Sam Cree ((absolute reality)- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: Sam Cree

Speak for yourself!

12 posted on 11/21/2005 6:33:36 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Sam Cree
Well, 40 is alot more than separates us from chimps, IIRC.

How about Democrat?

13 posted on 11/21/2005 6:33:43 PM PST by Polybius
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To: blam; Flyer; technochick99; sinkspur; annyokie; Scott from the Left Coast; 88keys; DugwayDuke; ...
Ping!


Other articles with keyword "DOGGIEPING" since 12/29/04

14 posted on 11/21/2005 6:35:41 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: dynachrome

Next we'll hear that they have created a new species of fox.


15 posted on 11/21/2005 6:37:57 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Calpernia

Just something I read here on FR! True, though, I think.


16 posted on 11/21/2005 6:38:40 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: blam

Well in many case only one base pair change in one gene is congenitally lethal. So differences in 40 genes is not all that close.


17 posted on 11/21/2005 6:40:20 PM PST by rod1
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To: Calpernia

The Dixie Dingo

Still living Wild in the bottom land swamps and forests of the Southeastern United States.

18 posted on 11/21/2005 6:42:28 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

I think there are more genes than that which separate a DemocRat from a Conservative.


19 posted on 11/21/2005 6:43:00 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: blam

Well 40 is actually a lot despite the fact that some dogs seems more wolf-like than others


20 posted on 11/21/2005 6:46:00 PM PST by apackof2 (I was born an American; I will live an American; I shall die an American. Daniel Webster)
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To: blam
A Bimini dog. The article calls it a potcake.


21 posted on 11/21/2005 6:46:07 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: blam

Ah! but 41 genes separate you pet dog from a dogfish..


22 posted on 11/21/2005 6:49:02 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: blam
My pampered princess says that it may be just 40, but it's the important 40.

(no wolf ever looked this goofy . . . she's sitting with her back to a 20 kt wind on St. Simons Island beach . . . her ears have become airborne . . .)

23 posted on 11/21/2005 6:54:49 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: blam
A comparison


24 posted on 11/21/2005 6:55:34 PM PST by CovenBuster (Bustin' up liberal covens from coast to coast)
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To: Sam Cree

Or pubbies from rats.


25 posted on 11/21/2005 7:18:09 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I just glanced into the den & saw two wire hair fox terriers and a yorkie sprawled around the wife's feet. No wolves there, but, the unannounced are met by three yapping banshees. ;>)


26 posted on 11/21/2005 7:22:58 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: blam

I have two dogs in my profile picture, a female MinPin and a male Mastiff.

I wonder if more than 40 genes separate THEM?

(If I could remember how, I'd post that picture here...)


27 posted on 11/21/2005 7:27:49 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: blam

I guess this means a wolf - not an ape - is my ancestor??? NOT!


28 posted on 11/21/2005 7:28:29 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
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To: blam

I have a half-German Shepherd, half-Collie mongrel - she's more like a werewolf.


29 posted on 11/21/2005 7:28:59 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

There's a picture of an unusually attractive rat in post 12. At least a couple steps up from Helen Thomas.


30 posted on 11/21/2005 7:32:57 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: Judith Anne

Judith Anne's dogs

32 posted on 11/21/2005 7:55:14 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

blam's Dogs

33 posted on 11/21/2005 7:58:22 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Your dog is a immature, friendly, obedient, different-looking, not-likely-to-attack-other-pack-members, Omega WOLF.

Get used to it and realize what you have and you will have a much better man's-best-friend DOG.


34 posted on 11/21/2005 8:00:51 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: AnAmericanMother

She isn't goofy she's adorable and she knows it.


35 posted on 11/21/2005 8:01:42 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from earth. Liberals are from Uranus.)
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To: blam

Blam love dogs.

Dogs love blam.

Life is good.

Beautiful Labs..


36 posted on 11/21/2005 8:03:45 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from earth. Liberals are from Uranus.)
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To: blam
They're vicious, I tell 'ya. Pure maneaters . . . never turn your back.


37 posted on 11/21/2005 8:04:54 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: blam
This is Princess



This is Duchess



Princess is 2.5 years old and Duchess is 10 months old....great dogs I tell you.

38 posted on 11/21/2005 8:09:25 PM PST by MikefromOhio (We (still) don't give a damn for the WHOLE state of Michigan.....)
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To: 1rudeboy
"They're vicious, I tell 'ya. Pure maneaters . . . never turn your back."

What are they?

39 posted on 11/21/2005 8:11:12 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

40 posted on 11/21/2005 8:12:26 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: MikeinIraq

Princess looks like my neighbor's dog. He told me the other day that she was in love with my Yellow Lab. He acted suprised that I didn't know. LOL


41 posted on 11/21/2005 8:13:54 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Pugs.


42 posted on 11/21/2005 8:15:56 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: blam

*Thanks!*

One of the things I love most about dogs is that they constantly want to be touching...they're just peaceful to be with.


43 posted on 11/21/2005 8:16:46 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: blam

yeah....

She has a trace of Shepherd in her. It shows up in her coat a bit, but not her coloration.

Her coat pattern is consistent with a German Sheperd, even though she has Husky coloration and mannerisms.....

Great dog though. My wife picked her up when I was in Iraq and she really helped my wife out.


44 posted on 11/21/2005 8:17:22 PM PST by MikefromOhio (We (still) don't give a damn for the WHOLE state of Michigan.....)
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To: blam

It's the one to her left that'll kick your butt as soon as look at you!


45 posted on 11/21/2005 8:19:30 PM PST by JAWs
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To: RedWhiteBlue


46 posted on 11/21/2005 8:24:08 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: MikeinIraq

Nice dogs, Mike.


47 posted on 11/21/2005 8:24:45 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: ValerieUSA
Next we'll hear that they have created a new species of fox.

What? A dark three leg-ed fox? (Not fair and balanced?)

48 posted on 11/21/2005 8:25:59 PM PST by harrowup (Born perfect and humble about it.)
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To: RedWhiteBlue

My black half-Dane yard dog has those yellow eyes...

(Beautiful pictures...)


49 posted on 11/21/2005 8:26:47 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne
"One of the things I love most about dogs is that they constantly want to be touching...they're just peaceful to be with.

Yup. Love my dogs. There was an article some time back on FR that stated that dog owners have less heart problems. Doc says I have a strong heart...my vet says I have a soft heart, lol.

50 posted on 11/21/2005 8:30:47 PM PST by blam
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