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Tancredo Plots Anti-Immigration 2008 Campaign
New York Sun ^ | November 22, 2005 | MEGHAN CLYNE

Posted on 11/22/2005 12:28:26 PM PST by Icelander

WASHINGTON - As Republicans look to the 2008 primaries in search of a candidate whose credentials and personality can triumph over Senator Clinton, one potential candidate has no expectation of winning on the basis of his personality or record - or of winning at all, for that matter. Instead, Rep. Thomas Tancredo, a Republican of Colorado, is hoping that his participation in Iowa's caucuses and early primaries will bring a victory for his signature issue: immigration reform.

He isn't waiting until 2008. Mr. Tancredo, 59, who has earned a national reputation for being an advocate for stricter border controls on Capitol Hill, has yet to make a firm declaration of his candidacy. But he is already making campaign stops from coast to coast and writing a book about immigration, tentatively titled "In Mortal Danger." It could serve as Mr. Tancredo's campaign platform and will be available in June, the congressman told The New York Sun yesterday.

In addition to laying the groundwork for his own bid, Mr. Tancredo is headlining campaign events for others who share his immigration philosophy. Reached yesterday by phone in Orange County, Calif., Mr. Tancredo was campaigning for the founder of the Minuteman Project, James Gilchrist, who is running for the congressional seat vacated by the new chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, Christopher Cox.

Mr. Tancredo has also visited New Hampshire and South Carolina. Bay Buchanan, who is the sister and adviser of another opponent of illegal immigration and former presidential candidate, Patrick Buchanan, has helped Mr. Tancredo make contacts in such early primary states, the congressman said. This weekend, Mr. Tancredo was in Alta, Iowa, on his fourth visit to the crucial caucus state in the last six months.

Mr. Tancredo has said that he will throw his hat into the Iowa ring if no other Republican emerges who will "include immigration in their platform ... and do so with some degree of vigor, "the congressman said yesterday. So far, Mr. Tancredo said a former speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich - who wrote in a recent report for the Center for Immigration Studies that immigrants' dual citizenship posed an "insidious challenge" - has come the closest to being satisfactorily strong on the issue.

Yet Mr. Tancredo appears to enjoy some advantages Mr. Gingrich and his likely 2008 competitors do not, principally the support of an influential Iowa Republican, Rep. Steven King. Mr. King is one of 91 members of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, of which Mr. Tancredo is founder and chairman.

"Tom Tancredo needs to keep coming to Iowa," Mr. King said. "I want him on the stage in this debate."

Messrs. Tancredo and King, and the executive director of the Iowa Republican Party, Cullen Sheehan, indicated yesterday that Mr. Tancredo will have a natural base of support among 2008 caucus-goers.

While Iowa is further removed from the issue of illegal immigration than border states such as California and Arizona, Mr. Tancredo said, it has been surprisingly receptive to his message of ending illegal immigration and reducing the number of legal migrants permitted to enter the country. His Iowa audiences, the congressman said, "are as concerned about it as any group I've ever spoken to in Arizona."

Mr. Sheehan said that illegal immigration is a matter of importance to Iowa's caucus-goers, saying that most "want people to obey the law, and they want our government to uphold the laws we have." Mr. King said jobs in the agricultural industry were also a factor, citing as an example the Farmland Foods packing plant in Dennison, Iowa. Ten years ago, Mr. King said, eight Hispanics worked at the facility compared to 850 today.

Iowans, however, are focused mostly on national security: "How can a nation have a border they don't defend?" Mr. King said. "If it's not really a border, then you're not really a nation."

Mr. King said he also anticipated Mr. Tancredo's message to resonate with caucus-goers because of his focus on the cultural effects of massive immigration. Mr. Tancredo said that today's immigrants decline to become Americans, leading to a "balkanized" society. Immigration, Mr. Tancredo said, fuels and reinforces the divisive multiculturalist ideologies propagated by American elites in academia, the press, and politics.

In fact, it was outrage at multiculturalism in American schools that first brought Mr. Tancredo's attention to immigration. The congressman is a former junior high school teacher, and the schools' insistence on bilingual education and hostility toward America in textbooks and classrooms, combined with his reading of Arthur Schlesinger's "The Disuniting of America" in 1992, served as his road-to-Damascus moment on the need for immigration reform, Mr. Tancredo said.

Mr. Tancredo, a Denver native, left teaching to take a seat in Colorado's House of Representatives in 1976, and later served in the federal Department of Education under Presidents Reagan and Bush. In 1998, Mr. Tancredo was elected to Congress.

After founding the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus in 1999, Mr. King said, Mr. Tancredo's "credibility is going up as the American public puts pressure on other members of Congress" on the matter of border security. When Mr. Tancredo first introduced amendments to restrict immigration, Mr. King said, the measures would receive 20 to 25 votes. "Three years ago, that same amendment got 60 to 70 votes. Now, that same amendment will get 100 or 110."

If Mr. Tancredo's star is rising among American voters and in the House, he may not be winning friends in the circles of Republican leadership.

The editor of RealClearPolitics.com, John McIntyre, said yesterday that Mr. Tancredo's candidacy poses "a real problem" for the GOP in 2008.

While the Colorado congressman's message might win votes as a hot-button issue in 2008 and 2012, Mr. McIntyre said, demographic trends suggested the position might prove electoral poison in 2016 and beyond as the American electorate becomes increasingly Hispanic, and if the Tancredo platform paints national Republicans as "anti-immigrant."

For Republicans to succeed in quieting Mr. Tancredo, satisfying the base's yearning for a serious immigration policy, and to avoid being tarred as nativist, it would be necessary for the GOP to nominate a popular candidate with a reputation for being a moderate-such as Senator McCain, of Arizona, or Mayor Giuliani - who would then embrace the issue in the 2008 campaign.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; elections; hillary2008; immigrantlist; immigration; iowa; plotsmindyou; tancredo; tancredo2008
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1 posted on 11/22/2005 12:28:27 PM PST by Icelander
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To: Icelander

A non-starter, realistically speaking. The Pubbies need the Hispanic vote to win, and if that means selling out to illegals, so be it.


2 posted on 11/22/2005 12:30:36 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


3 posted on 11/22/2005 12:31:57 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Icelander
one potential candidate has no expectation of winning

Sadly, some FReepers never learn that chasing windmills is a pointless exercise.

I want the border shut down now and all illegals deported. That doesn't mean I'd support Tancredo in a lost cause candidacy.

4 posted on 11/22/2005 12:32:31 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Wolfie


Well he's not going to get the ever increasingly important illegal immigrant vote....


5 posted on 11/22/2005 12:32:32 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Icelander

He won't win, but he could ensure that McCain wins.


6 posted on 11/22/2005 12:33:43 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Icelander

He also said several months ago that he wasn't running.


7 posted on 11/22/2005 12:34:06 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Wolfie
The Pubbies need the Hispanic vote to win, and if that means selling out to illegals, so be it.

Withhold your vote and have it counted as well. Vote Constitution party, it shows BOTH parties the votes they COULD have had.

8 posted on 11/22/2005 12:34:41 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: TLI

Amen.


9 posted on 11/22/2005 12:35:38 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Icelander

Anti-Illegal Immigration 2008 Campaign.


10 posted on 11/22/2005 12:35:53 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: TLI

An excercise in futility. Ever heard the saying "Cut your noise off to spite your face"


11 posted on 11/22/2005 12:36:46 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Icelander

No bias there (the headline). No mention of ILLEGAL immigration.


Sheeeesh.


12 posted on 11/22/2005 12:37:02 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: TLI
Vote Constitution party, it shows BOTH parties the votes they COULD have had.

While you're at it, send them a photo of yourself burning $ 1,000 in cash that they COULD have had as campaign contributions. That will teach them.

13 posted on 11/22/2005 12:37:04 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Icelander
While the Colorado congressman's message might win votes as a hot-button issue in 2008 and 2012, Mr. McIntyre said, demographic trends suggested the position might prove electoral poison in 2016 and beyond as the American electorate becomes increasingly Hispanic, and if the Tancredo platform paints national Republicans as "anti-immigrant."

Tom Tancredo is a true conservative who stands on principle regardless of the prevailing political fads. It's my perception that McIntyre is underestimating the growing swell of concern among Americans of all races including Hispanics, about illegal immigration.

14 posted on 11/22/2005 12:37:07 PM PST by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H.L. Mencken)
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To: Wolfie
The Pubbies need the Hispanic vote to win

The majority of whom support better border security.

The rest of whom will probably vote Dem anyway.

15 posted on 11/22/2005 12:37:57 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: traderrob6
Ever heard the saying "Cut your noise off to spite your face"

Ever heard of "two sides of the same coin?"

16 posted on 11/22/2005 12:38:24 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: TLI
Or send them this..
'Here's My Donation!' by Jay D. Dyson

"Here's My Donation!"


17 posted on 11/22/2005 12:38:25 PM PST by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: traderrob6

"An excercise in futility. Ever heard the saying "Cut your noise off to spite your face"

Hardly, more like "let's put this issue on the table"....and watch the other candidates scurry away like RATS.


18 posted on 11/22/2005 12:38:31 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: peyton randolph

Maybe he could send a picture of himself holding his breath until he turns blue.


19 posted on 11/22/2005 12:39:21 PM PST by Columbine
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To: traderrob6
An excercise in futility.

That would be voting for whomever the RNC puts out.

20 posted on 11/22/2005 12:39:27 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Icelander

I would vote for this man .
He is right on in many regards .
He responds personally those that write him as well.
Not up in some lofty tower.....


21 posted on 11/22/2005 12:40:35 PM PST by injin
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To: Columbine
Maybe he could send a picture of himself holding his breath until he turns blue.

Oxygen deprivation the cure or the cause? :-)

22 posted on 11/22/2005 12:40:56 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Columbine
That analogy's rapidly growing stale. It may have worked in '04, but more and more conservatives are getting wiser to the shenanigans of the GOP.
23 posted on 11/22/2005 12:41:38 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Icelander
Picked up a little Mexican cash on my last Texas Minutemen operation, I will be sending out a few choice "donations" myself.
24 posted on 11/22/2005 12:42:07 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: Icelander
MSM Bias at its finest:

As Republicans look to the 2008 primaries in search of a candidate whose credentials and personality can triumph over Senator Clinton

Automatically assuming that billary will win over any republican candidate and that she has personality. Nice job MSM

25 posted on 11/22/2005 12:42:55 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: Icelander

I need to know:

Is Tancredo running on an ANTI-IMMIGRATION campaign?
Or and ANTI-ILLEGAL-IMMIGRATION campaign?

This is a most interesting smear if Tancredo is really for the latter.

We know Tancredo is against bilingual education and multiculturalism.

Given what is happening in Europe, we know Multiculturalism is a sure recipe for disaster.

What is more important is what he is for. He is for assimilation and integration of legal immigrants who arrive in this country on the basis of a sound immigration process.


26 posted on 11/22/2005 12:43:15 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Icelander

BTTT


27 posted on 11/22/2005 12:44:48 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: inquest
That analogy's rapidly growing stale. It may have worked in '04, but more and more conservatives are getting wiser to the shenanigans of the GOP.

Truth doesn't go stale. One of the two major parties will win. The Constitution Party elected no one. When your party grows up give us a call.

28 posted on 11/22/2005 12:45:10 PM PST by Columbine
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To: Columbine
Truth doesn't go stale. One of the two major parties will win. The Constitution Party elected no one. When your party grows up give us a call.

Man, are you asking for a temper-tantrum beating.

29 posted on 11/22/2005 12:48:45 PM PST by rhombus
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To: Columbine
One of the two major parties will win.

So? Give me a call when you have a point to make.

30 posted on 11/22/2005 12:49:07 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Wolfie

That is a popular misconception. Hispanics who can vote are just as supportive of strict immigration policies as anyone else.


31 posted on 11/22/2005 12:49:49 PM PST by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: The Old Hoosier; All

I'd vote third party before I'd vote for McCain.


32 posted on 11/22/2005 12:51:29 PM PST by SC33
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To: Icelander
Tancredo Plots Anti-Immigration 2008 Campaign

Missing key word:

Tancredo Plots Anti-ILLEGAL Immigration

Typical MSM spin trying to make Conservatives our to be racist, xenophobic, anti-immigration nutjobs.

33 posted on 11/22/2005 12:52:59 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: TLI
Withhold your vote and have it counted as well. Vote Constitution party, it shows BOTH parties the votes they COULD have had.

AAA...bloody. MEN...

Listen to Peroutka, and the Constitution Party platform.

34 posted on 11/22/2005 12:54:05 PM PST by Prod Convert (To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths of all the Western stars, until I die......)
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To: SDGOP

Bias can also been seen in the incorrect title to this thread. Tancredo is not "anti-immigration", nor are the policies he proposes. He is anti-illegal immigration, and anti-mass legal immigration. That is an obvious distinction, and it is intentionally ignored by the media.

---"While the Colorado congressman's message might win votes as a hot-button issue in 2008 and 2012, Mr. McIntyre said, demographic trends suggested the position might prove electoral poison in 2016 and beyond as the American electorate becomes increasingly Hispanic, and if the Tancredo platform paints national Republicans as "anti-immigrant." ---

Well, duh! For decades now the GOP has sat by and watched as mass immigration has altered the nation's demography in favor of the Democrats, and not lifted a finger to stop it despite having public opinion on the side of ending mass immigration. That public opinion still exists today, but the GOP still refuses to embrace it. Eventually, as McIntyre says, that public opinion will likely evaporate, though it should be noted that large percentages of Hispanics favor tighter restrictions on immigration. As to McIntyre's second point about the danger of appearing 'anti-immigrant'; well, any position short of amnesty for illegals and continuing mass legal immigration will be painted that way by the Left (radical ethinic interests groups, Democrats, media), and sadly, by entities on the right like the WSJournal editorial page, Jack Kemp, Grover Norquist, CATO, etc. Any thing short of accepting open borders will be demonized as 'mean.'

If the GOP insists on playing by the Left's rules, and accepts competition on their ground, then it is doomed to lose. The invidious idea that opposing mass immigration is akin to hostility towards immigrants, or even immigration, must be fought head on.


35 posted on 11/22/2005 12:55:07 PM PST by Aetius
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To: SC33

Same here, but he'd win without our votes.

That's why McCain must not win the primary. But Tancredo will siphon off a few percentage points from the conservatives, and it could become a real problem.


36 posted on 11/22/2005 12:57:51 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Aetius

"If the GOP insists on playing by the Left's rules, and accepts competition on their ground, then it is doomed to lose. The invidious idea that opposing mass immigration is akin to hostility towards immigrants, or even immigration, must be fought head on."



Ta Da. Can't really nail it down any harder than that.


37 posted on 11/22/2005 12:57:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Icelander

Well after 16 years of Clinton policies, maybe it's time for a Tancredo candidacy.


38 posted on 11/22/2005 12:59:30 PM PST by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: taxed2death

"No bias there (the headline). No mention of ILLEGAL immigration."




And no mention of simply enforcing the law, either.


39 posted on 11/22/2005 1:00:14 PM PST by nralife
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To: The Old Hoosier

Oh, I completely agree. I love Tancredo, but I don't want him in this race. It will cause too many people to vote McCain.

I think at this point our best hope is Allen in 08, and let tancredo keep pushing reform in Congress. He seems to be rallying alot of support lately.

There is a bill I believe in Congress right now, called the CLEAR Act, which has something like 100 co-sponsors alrwady. I believe Tancredo is very involved with it, and it is a tough bill.


40 posted on 11/22/2005 1:00:57 PM PST by SC33
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To: TLI
There is a huge difference between voting for constitutionalist in a party primary and voting for a non-entity like the anti-social incompetent misfits in the Constitution/Libertarian/whatever party (except in New York).

This is a 2 party system as a matter of physics that cannot be contraviened. Voting Constitution Party is akin to thinking you can defy gravity.

41 posted on 11/22/2005 1:01:31 PM PST by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: Wolfie

Eventually that will be true, thanks to our largely accidental and mostly unwanted policy of unending mass immigration, but it still isn't quite so now.

Florida is the only state where the Hispanic vote may have played an important part in recent Republican victories. Losing the latino vote badly in California hurts, but so does the poor showing with whites in the state. Same goes for Illinois and New York. GOP dominance in Texas is due to routinely winning over 70% of the white vote. That won't continue to guarantee success much longer, though, as whites lost majority status in Texas this past year, and as the electorate catches up, Dem prospects will improve in the Lone Star state. And in many of the narrowly-blue states (Penn, Wisconsin, Minnesota), the GOP would have won had it done a bit better with white voters.

So yes, the GOP has dug itself into a hole because even if immigration levels were cut tomorrow, the pro-Democrat latino population would continue to grow rapidly over the next few decades. But right now the GOP could still win w/o pandering to Hispanics, as they are destined to lose any such attempt against the Democrats, who mastered pandering a long time ago.


42 posted on 11/22/2005 1:02:21 PM PST by Aetius
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To: mbraynard

So why do "Hispanics who can vote" vote overwhelmingly for Democrats?


43 posted on 11/22/2005 1:02:35 PM PST by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: The Old Hoosier
That's why McCain must not win the primary. But Tancredo will siphon off a few percentage points from the conservatives, and it could become a real problem.

And so now it all comes full circle. We get told we're not supposed to vote third-party, because the Democrats will win; that if you want to move things further to the right, do it in the GOP primaries. Now we're not supposed to vote "too conservative" in the GOP primaries, because otherwise McCain will be the nominee. So the upshot is, unless we're willing to color outside the lines that have been presented to us by the party hacks, we'll still have to dance to their tune. Sorry, but this cycle needs to be broken somewhere.

44 posted on 11/22/2005 1:03:01 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: dagnabbit
Good platform
Anti Illegal immigration
Stay the course in Iraq and the WOT


Gets my vote
45 posted on 11/22/2005 1:03:32 PM PST by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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To: SC33

McCain is a scary nutjob.


46 posted on 11/22/2005 1:04:17 PM PST by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: dagnabbit

So why do "Hispanics who can vote" vote overwhelmingly for Democrats?

Because it's money in the pocket


47 posted on 11/22/2005 1:04:20 PM PST by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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To: mbraynard
It's a way of getting the attention of those in power. That's the role that third parties have traditionally played, and it's a role that's desperately needed now.
48 posted on 11/22/2005 1:06:08 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Wolfie
A non-starter, realistically speaking. The Pubbies need the Hispanic vote to win, and if that means selling out to illegals, so be it.

The Republicans need the white vote to win, throw that away with an amnesty and its 1964 again.
49 posted on 11/22/2005 1:07:23 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: inquest

How many times did we sit here and laugh because the democrats were voting for a man they didn't like (John Kerry) just so they could beat Bush? I'm not going to play that game.

I will vote for whoever I damned well choose to vote for. If the party thinks they can blame me for their loss, then they can consider my vote lost for good.


50 posted on 11/22/2005 1:08:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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