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Those Defensive Darwinists
The Seattle Times ^
| 11/21/05
| Jonathon Witt
Posted on 11/22/2005 12:44:07 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: RogueIsland
"Could it be that the 'junk DNA' found in the genome is actually meta-DNA that can 'think' and design useful, instead of random, mutations?
To: Coyoteman
Godwin's Law is getting a major workout of late.
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:14:34 PM PST
by
Junior
(From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
To: RogueIsland
I'll see your "nazi" and raise you a "McCarthy."
From the article... "The NPR story appalled even die-hard skeptics of intelligent design, people like heavyweight blogger and law professor Glenn Reynolds, who referred to the Smithsonian's tactics as "scientific McCarthyism." "
I have observed that despite their claim as scientists, the "Evo Only" crowd wants no other alternative to be discussed and respond to such with insults, attacks, and attempts to suppress both the speaker and the points. This thread already demonstrates that characteristic.
Much like liberals in that sense.
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:14:49 PM PST
by
TN4Liberty
(American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
To: 2nsdammit
You paint a pretty good picture of a close-minded person yourself.
I think this article is onto something watching how a lot you ATTACK posters on this forum who do not cow to Evolution.
What are you so afraid of?
To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I read these ID vs. Darwin threads from top to bottom, but what I really want to know is, when do I get to have sex with an ape?
Owl_Eagle(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
it was probably sarcasm)
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:18:45 PM PST
by
End Times Sentinel
(In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Ever Notice how these howling Darwinist
"defenders", are so *very* *anti*-Darwinist
is their personal and social policies?
In fact, these "Darwinists", are by
Darwinian theory...*Devolutionary*
in they things they do, and what they
praise, ans seek to foster..a culture of
decivilizing narciscism and sexual
dead enderism.
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
To put things in perspective, the argument is not whether General Evolution or Intelligent Design offers a better explanation for the way things are. The argument is whether ANY THEORY OTHER THAN DARWINISM will be permitted to make even a token appearance in our public schools.
In other words, Darwinists want a permanent monopoly, and no dissention permitted. They wouldn't even sit still for an agreement that the science teacher, almost certainly a Darwinist himself, could mention to the kids if he really felt like it that there was a stupid book in the library by some kook, if they really wanted to take the trouble to go look at it and risk getting a D in the course.
If Darwin's theory is so blindingly and permanently obvious, why not allow some discussion about it?
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:19:05 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: TN4Liberty
the "Evo Only" crowd wants no other alternative to be discussed and respond to such with insults, attacks, and attempts to suppress both the speaker and the points. ID is not an "alternative" theory. It isn't even a theory. It isn't even a hypothesis. "ID proponents" do not do any science. They wont read anything about science.
They just start throwing the words "nazi", "atheist", "marxist", etc around. Call somebody a nazi or a marxist on a conservative forum and you can expect insults and attacks. I don't know how you could expect otherwise.
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:19:18 PM PST
by
wyattearp
(The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
To: Owl_Eagle
You mean you haven't already?
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:20:18 PM PST
by
Jersey Republican Biker Chick
(People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
To: Owl_Eagle
when do I get to have sex with an ape? Did you try flowers and candy?
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:20:42 PM PST
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: aft_lizard
I prefer to call them evo-nazis for there tactics and outright hatred. Awwww, wah-wah. Are they stating those awful facts at you again, little boy?
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:21:37 PM PST
by
balrog666
(A myth by any other name is still inane.)
To: LauraleeBraswell
Look LauraLee...you're wrong. Darwinism has long ago been shown to be pure mythology. It's only supporters are the phoney profs that use it as a vehicle for dumbing down the naive student population and applying for federal grants, AND gullible followers. Tell me, when's the last time you saw a half man-half ape OR a half man-half fish? You suggest: Tell the truth and people can decide. It seems to me people are deciding and the darwinist "groupies" view this independent thought as encroachment on their turf. Since they cannot bear detailed scrutiny, they make haste to silence the opposition.
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Isn't the law suit really an attempt at censorship?
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:22:31 PM PST
by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America)
To: wyattearp
Did you read the article? It is about shouting down other points of view. That is NOT science.
I don't care what people believe about evolution. But it is clear that the group who claims to have science on its side does not understand what science means any more that those who disagree with them.
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:23:07 PM PST
by
TN4Liberty
(American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
To: Madeleine Ward
I think this article is onto something watching how a lot you ATTACK posters on this forum who do not cow to Evolution.
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:24:01 PM PST
by
balrog666
(A myth by any other name is still inane.)
To: kimosabe31
It seems to me people are deciding and the darwinist "groupies" view this independent thought as encroachment on their turf. I don't know what a "darwinist groupie" is, but your suggestion that we should find a half-man/half-ape, or a half-man/half-fish isn't "independent thought". It is asinine, and laughable.
And when, exactly, was "darwinism" shown to be "pure mythology"? I must have missed that one.
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:25:35 PM PST
by
wyattearp
(The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
To: kimosabe31
Tell me, when's the last time you saw a half man-half ape There are several in here. Can you spot them?
Figure 1.4.4. Fossil hominid skulls. Some of the figures have been modified for ease of comparison (only left-right mirroring or removal of a jawbone). (Images © 2000 Smithsonian Institution.)
(A) Pan troglodytes, chimpanzee, modern
(B) Australopithecus africanus, STS 5, 2.6 My
(C) Australopithecus africanus, STS 71, 2.5 My
(D) Homo habilis, KNM-ER 1813, 1.9 My
(E) Homo habilis, OH24, 1.8 My
(F) Homo rudolfensis, KNM-ER 1470, 1.8 My
(G) Homo erectus, Dmanisi cranium D2700, 1.75 My
(H) Homo ergaster (early H. erectus), KNM-ER 3733, 1.75 My
(I) Homo heidelbergensis, "Rhodesia man," 300,000 - 125,000 y
(J) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Ferrassie 1, 70,000 y
(K) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Chappelle-aux-Saints, 60,000 y
(L) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, Le Moustier, 45,000 y
(M) Homo sapiens sapiens, Cro-Magnon I, 30,000 y
(N) Homo sapiens sapiens, modern
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:25:45 PM PST
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: Madeleine Ward
"What are you so afraid of?"
Rampant, willful ignorance, masquerading as "faith". Isn't that what we are fighting against in the GWOT?
If you want to have a reasoned, intelligent debate, great! I'm all for it! If you start calling the other side "Nazis" or other hyperbolic names, you have removed yourself from said reasoned debate, IMO....
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:25:54 PM PST
by
2nsdammit
(By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
To: The Old Hoosier
HIV usually causes AIDS. Or did you miss the memo?
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:26:03 PM PST
by
Boxen
(You're thinking in Japanese. If you must think, do it in German!)
To: TN4Liberty
Yes, I read the article. It is a gross exaggeration. Proponents of ID aren't proposing ID as "another point of view". They are proposing it as a competing theory. It isn't.
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posted on
11/22/2005 1:28:17 PM PST
by
wyattearp
(The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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