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To: 2ndreconmarine

[But the total publications from ID: ZERO]

Good Darwin Fundie Talking Point, but it's a lie. ID supporters have pusblished lists of their peer reviewed works. But you wouldn't know that, being a Darwin Fundamentalist.


84 posted on 11/23/2005 7:05:54 AM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9; 2ndreconmarine
[But the total publications from ID: ZERO]
Good Darwin Fundie Talking Point, but it's a lie. ID supporters have pusblished lists of their peer reviewed works

The key is not the number of publications, but the number of citations

ID supporters can publish their works, peer review them to their hearts desire. But unless scientists think the content is useful enough to mention in their own papers, the IDeologues are just blowing smoke.

87 posted on 11/23/2005 7:39:47 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: truthfinder9; longshadow; Ichneumon
Good Darwin Fundie Talking Point, but it's a lie. ID supporters have pusblished lists of their peer reviewed works. But you wouldn't know that, being a Darwin Fundamentalist.

No, sport, I would not know that because it is not on any of the standard publications databases. I do know where to find references in physics publications: the American Physical Society, I know where to find references on nuclear safeguards and NDA: the Institute of Nuclear Materials Management, I know where to find references on nuclear fusion, at Nuclear Fusion, and I know where to find references in Medicine and Biology, it is the National Institutes of Health PubMed database. Pretty much everyone knows that.

The simple, unarguable fact is that ID is missing from that database. Look for yourself.

So, if the IDers have published in recognized, peer-reviewed journals, instead of calling people liars, prove it by providing a reference. Post a list of publications. Give me search criteria at PubMed that will provide a list. Post the link to the search criteria at PubMed.

Produce something.

Now, just in anticipation of the quality of ID research, let me make a couple of restrictions. A paper authored by a Discovery Institute "scientist", peer reviewed by other Discovery Institute "scientists", and published in a journal that is published by the Discovery Institute does not count. That is not peer review and it is not a scientific publication. Moreover, when listing credentials, I am not interested in "Ph.D's" who received their degree from a mail order house. I am not interested in Ph.D's who received their degree as an honorary degree from the Discovery Institute. Moreover, I am not interested in papers that the Discovery Institute claims "imply" intelligent design, as their web site argues. Finally, I am not interested in papers on entirely different subjects than ID, but were published by people who subscribe to ID. The original issue was peer reviewed, published papers that support the ID thesis.

So, if you are really telling the truth, provide a list or provide a link to a list of real, peer reviewed papers published in support of ID. Given the demonstrated integrity of the Discovery Institute members, and the quality of intellect demonstrated by the 4 "essays" in your post, I won't hold my breath. (But I will enjoy reminding you on every subsequent post of yours I find).

92 posted on 11/23/2005 8:52:54 AM PST by 2ndreconmarine (Horse feces (929 citations) vs ID (0 citations) and horse feces wins!!!!!)
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