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Growth of Islam in Russia Brings Soviet Response
New York Times ^ | Published: November 22, 2005 | By STEVEN LEE MYERS

Posted on 11/22/2005 8:29:57 PM PST by Eurotwit

CHERKESSK, Russia - Security officials here in Karachayevo-Cherkessia, a restive republic on Russia's mountainous southern border, have a secret list of people who are kept under scrutiny.

At a mosque in Nalchik, in the Caucasus, Muslims offer evening prayers. Those who pray outside "official" mosques are often harassed.

Muslims in Russia Those on it have committed no crimes, but are considered suspect because they are Muslims who practice Islam outside of the state's sanctioned mosques.

Ovod Golayev is on that list. He lives in Karachayevsk, a city nestled in the foothills of the Caucasus, where he works for a tourism company that organizes skiing and hiking excursions. He wears his hair and beard long. He prays five times a day. He fasts during Ramadan, which is unusual here.

In recent weeks, he said, the police have detained him four times, twice in one day.

Mr. Golayev, 36, said the Islam he observes is opposed to violence, but he warned that the mistreatment of believers was driving men like him to desperation.

"They will pressure me enough," he said, "and then I will blow somebody's head off."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaedarussia; globaljihad; russia

1 posted on 11/22/2005 8:29:58 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit
Poor old wittle man can't practice his cult of hate in peace! Boo Hoo!
2 posted on 11/22/2005 8:35:27 PM PST by Nateman (Intolerance to the intolerant is justice.)
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To: Eurotwit
.."Mr. Golayev, 36, said the Islam he observes is opposed to violence."...

Obviously, not a "true" card carrying, Kill all Infidels, muslim.

3 posted on 11/22/2005 8:38:49 PM PST by austinmark (Torture? Koran abuse? ... I'd Rather Be A Koran In Gitmo THAN A Bible in Saudi Arabia !!!)
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To: Eurotwit

What's a Soviet?


4 posted on 11/22/2005 8:42:22 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Eurotwit
Mr. Golayev, 36, said the Islam he observes is opposed to violence,

He musta' overlooked the permissible beheading clauses in the Koran.

5 posted on 11/22/2005 8:46:56 PM PST by quantim (Detroit is the New Orleans of the north. It was settled by the French.)
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To: tang-soo
"What's a Soviet?"
Nothing good - take my word for it.
6 posted on 11/22/2005 8:48:22 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

Hey NYT...Douarty can;t go home again.


7 posted on 11/22/2005 8:50:10 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Do you mean Walter Duranty? I couldn't for the life of me connect "Douarty".


8 posted on 11/22/2005 9:00:40 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

Yes I did, thanks for correcting.


9 posted on 11/22/2005 9:01:41 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Eurotwit; jb6; All

Come think of it I wish Ivan the Terrible or other bad*** Russia Tsars were around they know how lay smackdown on Muslums BIG TIME

OH JB HONEYYYY


10 posted on 11/22/2005 9:05:48 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody in, it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"= Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Eurotwit
Growth of Islam in Russia Brings Soviet Response

The New York Times experiences a Freudian slip...

Back in the USSR! Ah, those were the good ol' days...

11 posted on 11/22/2005 9:08:30 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: austinmark; quantim
Don't forget this lovely gem:

"They will pressure me enough," he said, "and then I will blow somebody's head off."

Um, I thought "the Islam he observes is opposed to violence"?

12 posted on 11/22/2005 9:13:27 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: austinmark

Mr. Golayev, 36, said the Islam he observes is opposed to violence, but he warned that the mistreatment of believers was driving men like him to desperation.

"They will pressure me enough," he said, "and then I will blow somebody's head off."


So much for not believing in violence! Obviously he believes in making violent threats at least.


13 posted on 11/22/2005 9:29:19 PM PST by winner3000
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To: winner3000

Well, if one is harassed too much, one will snap - everything [and everyone] has its/one's limits. Similarly, one should not twist his words beyond breaking point. BTW, old Niccolo Machiavelli taught that people should be either coddled or exterminated, but that any middle course is pernicious and counterproductive [re: harassment].


14 posted on 11/22/2005 9:41:39 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Eurotwit; Thinkin' Gal
Mr. Golayev, 36, said the Islam he observes is opposed to violence......"They will pressure me enough," he said, "and then I will blow somebody's head off."

Any questions?

15 posted on 11/22/2005 9:49:16 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: GSlob

That's assuming Ovad is an innocent detainee.

At any rate, there seems to be no middle ground on Ovad's extreme reaction.


16 posted on 11/22/2005 9:53:34 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe

What could be the point in arresting a guy several times over couple weeks and then promptly releasing him - how else could he be arrested twice on the same day? This is harassment pure and simple. If he was scooped up for some legitimate reason, it would have taken them longer than that to sort it out.


17 posted on 11/22/2005 10:12:03 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; Dark Skies; Former Dodger
Mr. Golayev, 36, said the Islam he observes is opposed to violence, but he warned that the mistreatment of believers was driving men like him to desperation. "They will pressure me enough," he said, "and then I will blow somebody's head off."

I like it when so-called moderate muslims, who may be infected with the dormant version of the virus, slip up occasionally for the world to see, as today much of the world if only one mouse click away from the truth. Muslims like this guy know their ultimate duty is to islam, dawa, and other muslims.

In the end, it leads to the important question of who we can ultimately trust....

18 posted on 11/23/2005 7:00:20 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade )
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To: USF
"They will pressure me enough," he said, "and then I will blow somebody's head off."

I love that...

Peace is islam only comes when muslims are completely obeyed (if then).

19 posted on 11/23/2005 7:17:17 AM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Eurotwit
No need to get tense Mr. Golayev, Mr. Bush has a plan. He's got a country for you to occupy, don't worry about the natives they're there to be stepped on.
20 posted on 11/23/2005 10:06:51 AM PST by jordan8
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