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Al Franken Schooled by Antonin Scalia at New York Event
The National Ledger ^ | 11-23-05 | CK Rairden

Posted on 11/22/2005 11:25:43 PM PST by Coastal

Al Franken stepped out of his comfortable echo-chamber of Air America on Monday night and was given more than one lesson by Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. The C-List political commentator attempted to rip off a sophomoric shot at Justice Scalia, but was quickly embarrassed, according to a report in the NY Post.

Franken, apparently unaware of exactly how far he was stepping up in class, was chided "as if he were a delinquent schoolboy at Time Warner Center on Monday night.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: airamerica; alfranken; antoninscalia; frankedjerk; franken; frankenberry; frankendork; frankengoof; frankenidiot; liberalloser; scalia; scalisistheman; scotus; stuartsmalley
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1 posted on 11/22/2005 11:25:44 PM PST by Coastal
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To: All

Al Franken vs. Antonin Scalia....

Sort of like putting a .22 pistol up against a Cruise Missile.


2 posted on 11/22/2005 11:34:21 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: Coastal

Franken merely thinks he is a wit, what he is in reality is a half wit.


3 posted on 11/22/2005 11:38:05 PM PST by TASMANIANRED ("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bulletts." Sgt Clay.)
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To: Coastal
"The C-List political commentator..."

LOL....actually, I was thinking a little further down the alphabet....

Would love to have the audio to this.
4 posted on 11/22/2005 11:38:43 PM PST by notfornothing
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To: TASMANIANRED
Nothing like taking the field in a battle of wits disarmed.
5 posted on 11/22/2005 11:40:51 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Coastal

the intelectual level of liberalism exposed.


6 posted on 11/22/2005 11:46:51 PM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: Coastal
Franken stood up in the back row and started talking about "judicial demeanor" ... First, Scalia lectured Franken, "Demeanor is the wrong word. You mean ethics."

Perhaps Franken should make his case on Larry King Alive, just not on Wednesday night. As King explained earlier, Wednesday night's special guest will be Supreme Court Justice Stephen Burger. After the break he corrected himself. Maybe they should re-run the Wallace interview.

7 posted on 11/22/2005 11:48:36 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: TASMANIANRED
Franken merely thinks he is a wit, what he is in reality is a half wit.

Now that is wit.
8 posted on 11/22/2005 11:52:15 PM PST by billybudd
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To: TASMANIANRED
Franken merely thinks he is a wit, what he is in reality is a half wit.

Not half a wit, therefore, a twit.

9 posted on 11/23/2005 12:06:12 AM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he worked the bolt.)
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To: AZ_Cowboy
Sort of like putting a .22 pistol up against a Cruise Missile.

You're being generous, FRiend. I thought it was more of a spitball vs. a Neutron Bomb. I don't think Herr Franken knew what hit him.

10 posted on 11/23/2005 12:08:24 AM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Franken merely thinks he is a wit, what he is in reality is a halfwit.

I would substitute the world "half" with the derogatory slang of 'copulation'.

11 posted on 11/23/2005 12:09:58 AM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: Coastal

Stuart Smalley would like to think that he got under the Justice Scalia's skin, "and that's...ok", because it's one of a colossus of reasons why he and his side won't be seeing a return to the majority in any of our three branches anytime soon too.


12 posted on 11/23/2005 12:48:42 AM PST by TeddyCon
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To: Coastal

99.99% of the entire U.S. population would be crazy to match wits with Scalia.

Al Franken probably falls within the top 25%. He didn't stand a chance.


13 posted on 11/23/2005 12:51:23 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Coastal

al franken in abattle of wits with scalia is a lot like putting verne troyer (mini me) in a cage wrestling match against andre the giant.


14 posted on 11/23/2005 12:54:58 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Coastal

Al Franken, Michael Moore, and Helen Thomas - - peas in a pod.


15 posted on 11/23/2005 1:07:29 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jeff Chandler
Al Franken probably falls within the top 25%. He didn't stand a chance.

I think you rate him too highly.

Franken is a comedian posing as a commentator.  He's very good at mocking the mockable, which is just about everything, but taking on someone like Scalia without heavy prep work or perhaps certain and steady sobriety is simply stupid.

One of Harry Blackmun's clerks described Scalia's stature in the war between liberal and conservative Justices:

The glaring contrast between the liberal and conservative Justices was reflected in almost every aspect of Court life and was on public display during every oral argument.  I came to dread these session, where, from the cheap seats at the side of the courtroom, the liberal clerks would watch demoralized as the conservatives thoroughly dominated the proceedings.  There was Scalia, ever witty, brilliant, and self-satisfied, leaning forward into his microphone to make mincemeat of those advocates with whom he disagreed or coming to the rescue of friendly counsel.  . . .

-- Edward Lazarus, Closed Chambers:  The Rise, Fall, and Future of the Modern Supreme Court (personal copy)

Poor Al was . . . clueless . . . or maybe puffed up with Dutch courage.

16 posted on 11/23/2005 1:10:47 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Coastal
Then Nino said, "You're not good enough, you're not smart enough, and nobody likes you."
17 posted on 11/23/2005 1:11:09 AM PST by msnimje (Bob Woodward is the GRINCH who stole Fitzmas............Cindy Lou (sheehan) WHO?)
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To: Coastal
The C-List political commentator

C-List? Bwaaahahahahahahah!

Billy O'Riley is still grasping tenuously to the A-List.

Bwaaahahahahaha!

18 posted on 11/23/2005 1:11:46 AM PST by woofer (I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.)
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To: Racehorse
I think you rate him too highly.

The 76th percentile isn't very high at all. Just high enough to memorize his lines.

19 posted on 11/23/2005 1:14:59 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Racehorse

BTW, I don't believe that all liberals are necessarily stupid, just borderline psychotic.


20 posted on 11/23/2005 1:16:46 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Prime Choice
That is obvious from his "I think I got under his skin" comment afterward. The man is such an idiot, he didn't even know he lost the battle of words!!
21 posted on 11/23/2005 1:17:27 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: AZ_Cowboy
Al Franken vs. Antonin Scalia....

From the article:
First, Scalia lectured Franken, "Demeanor is the wrong word. You mean ethics." Then he explained, "Ethics is governed by tradition. It has never been the case where you recuse because of friendship."

Well that bout didn't take too long.

I remember in High School a government teacher explaining to everyone that a lawyer is "one of those guys who can insult you, and you don't even realize until about three days later". One of these days, Al is going to tangle with someone very bright and simultaneously in a grouchy mood in front of the nation. It's not going to be a good day for Al.
22 posted on 11/23/2005 1:45:58 AM PST by dbehsman (Fight the axis of drivel : ABC-CBS-NBC-PBS-CNN-MSNBC)
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To: HolgerDansk

LOL


23 posted on 11/23/2005 1:56:14 AM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dbehsman
You know come to think of it, and I truly mean this in as much of a "non partisan" purely objective way that I can manage, I really don't think Al is funny or bright. I didn't think the guy was funny before I heard that he's a liberal. Some people used to chuckle at the Stewart Smiley skits, I honestly never though much off them. I don't know if they were ever intended to be, but I never thought that they were "laugh out loud" funny. Speaking as objectively as I can, I don't think Frankin is really funny.

I also don't think Frankin is very bright. Again, I am being as objective as possible. When Scalia verbally back handed Al, I'll bet that Al really didn't get it.
24 posted on 11/23/2005 2:08:10 AM PST by dbehsman (Fight the axis of drivel : ABC-CBS-NBC-PBS-CNN-MSNBC)
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To: dbehsman
Actually Franken, who went to Harvard on a math scholarship, is fairly bright....just not in matters concerning reason and logic. In short he's like most libs. I have a very liberal, viscerally Bush-hating brother-in-law who works for a major corporation and is an expert in financial matters. As would be expected, he did very well in math-related subjects throughout his academic career.

However if you had to listen to him rant, after he's had a few drinks (and often after he hasn't had a few drinks), you might assume that he was an uneducated moron. He gets everything wrong and is afflicted by the common liberal conceit that they are automatically smarter than any conservative. For instance he thinks that universities are controlled by conservatives. He is normally a very nice person... but also a very ignorant one...like most libs when they talk about politics or social matters.

25 posted on 11/23/2005 2:53:15 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Old adage - Don't go into a battle of wits unarmed...


26 posted on 11/23/2005 2:55:13 AM PST by databoss
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To: woofer

O'Really is a celeb?


27 posted on 11/23/2005 2:57:48 AM PST by databoss
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To: Racehorse

Thank you, that's a great reference and a wonderful read. The rare times Scalia's on C-Span, he shines, absolutely outclasses everyone. It's so obvious, a two year-old couldn't miss it. That joust with Stephen Burger last year...I think...was jaw dropping. Extremely nervous, Burger tried not to look at him and talked as fast as he could -- a stream of drivel about the Constitution being old hat and how fabulous the World Court was. Scalia lounged in his chair, lobbing cruise missiles when he couldn't any more. He eviscerated Burger.


28 posted on 11/23/2005 3:07:50 AM PST by hershey
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To: Coastal

Every time one of Al's friends turns off their radio, the market share of Err America dips by 20%.


29 posted on 11/23/2005 3:16:46 AM PST by samtheman
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To: dbehsman
" ... When Scalia verbally back handed Al, I'll bet that Al really didn't get it."


Somehow I don't believe Justice Scalia said it for Franken to "get it".

It was simply to relate to those, with some intellect, that Al was a loud mouth moron that is still "not ready for prime time".



30 posted on 11/23/2005 3:20:49 AM PST by G.Mason (Send Congressman Murtha a message, that cowards cut and run, Marines never do.)
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To: Coastal
Al told the Post, "I think I got under his skin a little."

Al is projecting here. He must think everyone is like him. The tiniest perceived slight or a disagreeable question will push this sawed-off drawf's buttons to the point of screaming hissy fits or even outright physical violence.

31 posted on 11/23/2005 3:26:19 AM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: Racehorse

Ouch! Nothing stings more then using the wrong word or mispronouncing a word and having it pointed out to you - especially in front of others! If Stuart Smally truly believed he got under Nino's skin, he is extremely dense. What is the most dense element? Stuart would beat that.


32 posted on 11/23/2005 3:58:08 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: hershey

Steven Breyer.


33 posted on 11/23/2005 4:03:11 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Coastal

A bunch of petulant children, that is what the left has become.


34 posted on 11/23/2005 4:08:11 AM PST by PogySailor (Semper Fi to the men of 3/1, 1st Marines in Al Anbar)
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To: singfreedom
"I think I got under his skin a little."

If that's so, Scalia got under Frickin's skin, peeled it off, baked it, and handed it back to him.

35 posted on 11/23/2005 4:35:56 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: JohnLongIsland
yes.... the level of one celled slime that exists at the bottom of a sewage treatment plant.
36 posted on 11/23/2005 4:52:19 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Coastal
Oh, those ultra-brainy, smirking little liberals.

They never learn. They never will. They're far too self-satisfied to ever shut their mouths.

37 posted on 11/23/2005 4:56:14 AM PST by Reactionary
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To: driftless
However if you had to listen to him rant, after he's had a few drinks (and often after he hasn't had a few drinks), you might assume that he was an uneducated moron. He gets everything wrong and is afflicted by the common liberal conceit that they are automatically smarter than any conservative. For instance he thinks that universities are controlled by conservatives. He is normally a very nice person... but also a very ignorant one...like most libs when they talk about politics or social matters.

Does anybody else remember when there was a guest host on Rush's show (I think it was Walter Williams, but it might have been Thomas Sowell), where a liberal caller phoned in, and stated that we NEEDED an activist court, like when the Supreme Court overturned slavery in the "Dread Scott" case? The host was somewhat stunned, and gave the caller a chance to restate his assertion... When he realized that the guy had EVERYTHING WRONG in his assertion, he didn't spend too much time making fun of him, but let his ignorance speak for itself.

Mark

38 posted on 11/23/2005 4:59:57 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Coastal
"Ouch! If Franken had any shame it should have kicked in. But proving that he truly is clueless Al told the Post, "I think I got under his skin a little.""


Typical of leftists, Franken appears satisfied to be of the heckler genre, rather persuasive or thought provoking.
39 posted on 11/23/2005 5:02:01 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: Coastal
Here's the link to the NY Post story. The amazing think is the Time Warner suit dissed Al.
40 posted on 11/23/2005 5:03:45 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Prime Choice
"You're being generous, FRiend. I thought it was more of a spitball vs. a Neutron Bomb. I don't think Herr Franken knew what hit him."


41 posted on 11/23/2005 5:04:38 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: woofer
"Billy O'Riley is still grasping tenuously to the A-List."

If there is any doubt that o'Riley is c list, listen to him explain why he believe oil prices are fixed.
42 posted on 11/23/2005 5:04:47 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: All

Justice Antonin Scalia
43 posted on 11/23/2005 5:06:08 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: hershey

Has this encounter been re-run? I'd love to see it.


44 posted on 11/23/2005 5:06:16 AM PST by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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To: i_dont_chat
He's more of a match for Barney Franks:
45 posted on 11/23/2005 5:14:55 AM PST by Mayflower Sister (DEMOCRAT: THE PARTY OF COWARDS AND TRAITORS)
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To: i_dont_chat
Has this encounter been re-run? I'd love to see it.

Ditto. It probably looks a lot like the 1996 Fiesta Bowl.

46 posted on 11/23/2005 5:18:07 AM PST by Skooz (I am Torgo, I take care of the place while the Master is away. Santa's laughter mocks the poor.)
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To: dbehsman

"One of these days, Al is going to tangle with someone very bright and simultaneously in a grouchy mood in front of the nation. It's not going to be a good day for Al."

First choice: Mark Levin
Second choice: Rush.

(Mark only beats out Rush because Rush would be too NICE to Franken)


47 posted on 11/23/2005 5:28:30 AM PST by Pravious
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To: Mayflower Sister

"He's more of a match for Barney Franks"

I don't think he is even a match for Barney Rubble !!!


48 posted on 11/23/2005 5:48:00 AM PST by Codeograph
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To: Skooz

" Ditto. It probably looks a lot like the 1996 Fiesta Bowl."


Go Gators,,,,,sigh

UF '97


49 posted on 11/23/2005 5:53:51 AM PST by mlbford2 (I love my Semis, but for me they are for the range. My life is protected by my S&W revolver.)
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To: driftless

"normally a very nice person" except when he's been drinking or not.


50 posted on 11/23/2005 6:05:11 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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