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Florida: Stetson University Women Under Fire For Blackface Costumes
Local 6 (Florida) ^ | November 24, 2005

Posted on 11/24/2005 2:38:23 PM PST by Stoat

Stetson University Women Under Fire For Blackface Costumes

Players Painted Bodies Black, Wore Fake Gold Teeth

 

POSTED: 11:22 pm EST November 23, 2005
UPDATED: 7:26 am EST November 24, 2005

 

Several women on Stetson University's softball team are under fire over blackface costume photos recently posted on the Internet, according to a Local 6 News report.

Members of the Stetson team dressed up as school basketball star Grlenntys Kicking Stallion Sims on Halloween by painting themselves black, wearing cornrows and fake gold teeth. Some players wore the blackface costumes to a contest to a Deland bar, according to the Stetson student newspaper.

The blackface photos some how ended up on a Web site this month and have since outraged civil rights activists at the Southern Poverty Law Center in Alabama, Local 6 reporter Tarik Minor said.

 

 

  "I can see why people would consider it offensive," Sims said. "They said they wanted to dress up as us but they didn't say they were going to paint their bodies or anything. We are real close with the softball team and we didn't think anything of it. We gave them our jerseys."

  Some people on campus are angry with the photos, saying they remind them of the humiliation and mockery blacks suffered before desegregation, Minor said.

"Not too many people know the history of blackface, student Cameo Humes said. "It was a form of basically mocking African Americans by painting their faces black and giving them exaggerated features, such as big lips." Sociologist Leonard Nance said the students did not realize their costumes would spark controversy.

"It could be offensive to some people and could not be offensive to some people," student Kevin Gallagher said. "The thing is that if they go out in public like that or they go to a bar, they are going to offend somebody." The women who wore the blackface costumes are required to read a book written by Tim Wise called "White Like Me," write a reflection paper and have conversations with the school's diversity council.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackface; diversitypolice; florida; race; sports; victimculture
  • Members of the Stetson University team dressed up as a school basketball by painting themselves black, wearing cornrows and fake gold teeth.

1 posted on 11/24/2005 2:38:23 PM PST by Stoat
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To: Stoat

People need to lighten up.

2 posted on 11/24/2005 2:40:29 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Stoat

They "remember" times before desegregation? How old are these people? Plus, how is someone in blackface so insulting? They're all @#@&(# retards.


3 posted on 11/24/2005 2:41:31 PM PST by stan the beaver (We will kill the ones who eat us, and eat the ones we kill!!)
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To: martin_fierro

It's only permissible one-way, though.


4 posted on 11/24/2005 2:43:33 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Win the war. Confirm the judges. Cut the taxes. Control the spending. Secure the border.)
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To: Stoat

There will be even "better" news coming out of Stetson in the coming days and weeks. Some of my friends on College Republicans started a conservative magazine, only to be barred from distribution both on and off campus due to disagreements over the conservative content. All attempts at compromise have been unsuccessful so far. We have already contacted the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) and they have taken our case. Hopefully we can settle but we are prepared to protect out legal rights.


5 posted on 11/24/2005 2:45:22 PM PST by PPHSFL (God Bless America)
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To: Stoat

They committed the greatest of all crimes: ethnic humor at the expense of one of the favored minorities. Had they engaged in lesbianism or insulted Christians or whites there would have been no problem.


6 posted on 11/24/2005 2:45:25 PM PST by reelfoot
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To: Stoat

Oh My Gawd, they broke the Cardinal rule "Never appear in Blackface"

****"Not too many people know the history of blackface, student Cameo Humes said******

Cameo Humes is right not too many people do know the history of blackface. , and he is one of them.


7 posted on 11/24/2005 2:50:31 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Stoat

The funny thing about this is a black is offended by blackface but a black man doing hip hop talking about beating up on cops and Ho's and playing with his nuts the whole time doesnt offend them in the least. To me Blackface is a lot better than gangster rap.


8 posted on 11/24/2005 2:57:52 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: martin_fierro

Take a sledgehammer to whiny left-wing hypocrisy, why don'cha!


9 posted on 11/24/2005 3:01:27 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: Stoat

There should be a National Black Face Day. Where all appear in Blackface. It would drive em nuts!


10 posted on 11/24/2005 3:01:44 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: martin_fierro
People need to lighten up.

This flap would have never happened if the girls had taken your advice ;-)

11 posted on 11/24/2005 3:02:08 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: Stoat

No comment required. What were they mad about again?

; )

12 posted on 11/24/2005 3:09:02 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Stoat
Only APPROVED kool-aid drinkers can get away with it.
13 posted on 11/24/2005 3:13:45 PM PST by Range Rover (Kerry is STILL a Fraud...Rather is the Court Jester)
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To: Caipirabob
And yet completely acceptable when LIBERAL Ted Danson dressed up in blackface (with minstrel costume):

14 posted on 11/24/2005 3:17:06 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Stoat
Blacks can go in blackface, no problem...

15 posted on 11/24/2005 3:19:32 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: martin_fierro

Yeah, imagine if there were a "Black Sistas" movie or something. We'd never hear the end of it.


16 posted on 11/24/2005 3:19:50 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
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To: PPHSFL

Seems things have changed at Stetson. One of my kids went there some 15 years ago and I got the impression the place was somewhat conservative.


17 posted on 11/24/2005 3:21:14 PM PST by Oldhunk
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To: Stoat

Whites are the only group that is allowed to be made fun of now.


18 posted on 11/24/2005 3:22:34 PM PST by Buffettfan
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To: reelfoot
They committed the greatest of all crimes: ethnic humor at the expense of one of the favored minorities.

The article is so poorly written that it's hard to tell, but I think they were doing a parody of one particular player who happens to be black. I wonder where the race pimps draw the line. Suppose they left off the shoe polish, but still did the corn rows and gold teeth.

19 posted on 11/24/2005 3:24:21 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: All
Stoat Poll Question:

What do you think will happen to these players?

A.  They will be kicked off the team and banished from participation in any sporting activity, professional or amateur, for the rest of their lives

B.  (A) but will also be kicked out of school and prosecuted civilly for Hate Speech Crimes.

C.  (A) and (B) and will also have their parents' homes burned to the ground by angry white liberal mobs.

D.  Other

 

20 posted on 11/24/2005 3:27:58 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

She is just having her minstrel period.


21 posted on 11/24/2005 3:40:44 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Stoat
If it outrages the Southern Poverty Law Center, I know it must be a good thing.
22 posted on 11/24/2005 4:07:52 PM PST by isrul
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To: Range Rover; Kirkwood
Now in fairness, Danson's stunt was far from APPROVED. It wasn't even accepted or tolerated. Danson was absolutely villified by liberals for the stunt. It even went so far as the NYC mayor excoriating Danson for the event. Many black members even relinquished their memberships to the Friar Club as a result.

So to say that it was approved or acceptable to liberals is complete and utter intellectual dishonesty.

23 posted on 11/24/2005 4:13:55 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas

Its your basic liberal drivle. Who cars if someone is offended?


24 posted on 11/24/2005 4:34:18 PM PST by www.saveourguns.org (www.freecitizen.com)
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To: www.saveourguns.org
Its your basic liberal drivle. Who cars if someone is offended?

My point had nothing to do with whether anyone was offended or not. It had to do with being honest. The original posters that I replied to referenced the incident as thought it enjoyed liberal support, and if not support, and least acceptence, and it wasn't true. I've got this thing about honesty, it's important.

25 posted on 11/24/2005 4:37:06 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas

Of course it was disapproved. In the leftist pecking order, Blacks rank higher than White liberals.


26 posted on 11/24/2005 4:40:09 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Melas

I think Whoppie Goldberg (Danson's soul mate de juere)
also appeared with Ted ...sort of giving the whole thing
a black stamp of approval..

They got mad at Ted but not at Whoopie...?

Go figure.


27 posted on 11/24/2005 4:48:45 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister...necessitating her untimely death..-Mullet Omar)
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To: yarddog

I'm not a leftist, but I thought it showed poor judgement.


28 posted on 11/24/2005 4:56:31 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: joesnuffy

Now that I didn't know. That's somewhat troubling.


29 posted on 11/24/2005 4:57:06 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Stoat

Remember, blacks good whites bad. Nothing to see unless the blue-eyed devil does it.


30 posted on 11/24/2005 5:10:53 PM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: Melas
Worst of all it probably caused his break up with Whoopi Goldberg. Don't forget that Whoopi was the butt of his joke that night. Ted has paid dearly for that little gaff. Can you imagine not having Whoopi beside you in bed as you awake every morning?

Instead of Blackface, How about something more sensitive like, " Hey, Whoopi I need to borrow your head, I want to refinish my hardwood floors. The vertigo from spinning goes away after a few hours. If that's a problem I have some Dramamine."
31 posted on 11/24/2005 5:30:00 PM PST by joem15
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To: joem15
I never pick on people for their looks.

However, not having to listen to Whoopie would certainly have obvious advantages.

32 posted on 11/24/2005 5:31:57 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas

Oh he was certainly scolded after but it was his main squeeze at the time - Whoopie Goldberg - who came up with the stunt and wrote his material. That it backfired was because more Conservative persons took offence, if I remember correctly.


33 posted on 11/24/2005 5:36:20 PM PST by Range Rover (Kerry is STILL a Fraud...Rather is the Court Jester)
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To: Melas

FYI - "Other detractors claim, however, that Goldberg did insult her own people when, at the infamous Friars Club roast, she and then-boyfriend Ted Danson dressed up in blackface and spouted N-word-laced zingers, from a script penned in part by Whoopi. More recently, she was criticized for hosting the Oscars in the face of Jesse Jackson's almost-boycott of the event. And many sisters and brothers deem her choice of White men as husbands and lovers a slap in the face to the race." - Essence - January 1997


34 posted on 11/24/2005 5:57:05 PM PST by Range Rover (Kerry is STILL a Fraud...Rather is the Court Jester)
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To: Range Rover; All

The Greatest Entertainer who ever lived was Al Jolson.

He didn't 'black up' to demean anybody. It was an accepted art form and he is the only man who actually brought it into the 'mainstream' from Vaudeville.

Black Americans were some of his biggest fans. Cab Calloway co-starred with Jolson in "The Singing Kid" in 1936, and yes, they did a number together with all black performers and Al - in blackface.

Calloway was also one of the original members of the Al Jolson Society.

Back in 1985 I attended a screening of "Halellujah I'm a Bum" (a 1933 Jolson film that is probably his best, with a Rogers and Hart score and available on DVD) at the Smithsonian Institution in DC for Jolson's Centennary.

In the very back row of the theater there were about 10 finely dressed elderly black ladies, the youngest of whom was probably 80.

They didn't dress up like that to go see a star who 'demeaned' anybody. They came to remember a local Baltimore boy who made good, and whose fans they had been in their youth.

If you want more information about the greatest singer America has ever produced, I invite you to go here:

http://www.jolson.org

35 posted on 11/24/2005 6:02:28 PM PST by Al Simmons (http://www.mumbogumbo.com - check it out...for some great music)
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To: Melas

It was totally accepted by the liberals after Whoopi came out and said she put Danson up to it. The fact that he got other jobs including going on to "Becker" after that tells me that no grudge was held by the liberals against Danson. That never would have happened if Danson wasn't an ultraliberal himself.


36 posted on 11/24/2005 6:05:26 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Stoat

Can anyone explain to me why something they did off campus on their own time should held against them?

If the university tried to impose any punishment against me, my first stop would be in the office of a lawyer.


37 posted on 11/24/2005 6:21:40 PM PST by twas
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To: Oldhunk

The President, Dean of Students, Dean of the College of Arts & Sciences, and most of the faculty are liberals. However, many of the students are at least in the center, if not conservative. We conducted a straw poll of the campus before the election last year. Bush won by 15%. College Republican meetings regularly fill up the classroom while College Democrats are lucky to fill up half of a small study room.


38 posted on 11/24/2005 6:36:08 PM PST by PPHSFL (God Bless America)
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To: Stoat
Some people on campus are angry with the photos, saying they remind them of the humiliation and mockery blacks suffered before desegregation, Minor said.

Uhhhhhhh....but wearing cornrows and gold caps is something blacks do TODAY, some 40 years after desegregation. Isn't it?

39 posted on 11/24/2005 6:39:12 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Melas

I agree..It was completely ignorant.Its 2005 and these so called educated college women should know that blackface antics are an insult and a tasteless joke.


40 posted on 11/24/2005 6:48:48 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Melas; Stoat
Was this the only post on the Stetson softball team incident? In a column from today's Daytona Beach News-Journal, Tony Jones is claiming the following:

Stetson basketball player Chief Kickingstallionsims, a 7-foot-1-inch sophomore, was quoted on the Web site freerepublic.com last week as saying no one on the Hatters basketball team knew what the softball players were planning when they asked to borrow practice jerseys.

"I can see why people would consider it offensive," Kickingstallionsims said on the Web site. "They said they wanted to dress as us, but they didn't say they were going to paint their bodies or anything."


I've seen no evidence that Chief Kickingstallionsims posts here, and don't think a FReeper has been outed - it's just another case of a "journalist" that doesn't understand how Free Republic works. Mr. Kickingstallionsims said these things to Channel 6, not Free Republic. Did I miss something?

Anyway, the MSM lurks here, and that anything you post may be printed in tomorrow's newspaper. Something to always remember when posting.
41 posted on 11/30/2005 12:12:33 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

Thanks very much for your information....I did two searches here on FR just now, one for "Stetson University" and another for "blackface" and in both cases this was the only relevant thread that came up.

No, I don't think that you missed anything....it's just a matter of the MSM being inarticulate, shoddy and unprofessional once again :-)

I wish that members of the MSM would lurk here more than they do....they might learn something! (I know, wishful thnking)


42 posted on 11/30/2005 2:41:14 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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