Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Silent Steve: Little Oscar Marketing or Publicity for Spielberg’s "Munich"
LA Weekly ^ | 12/2/05 | NIKKI FINKE

Posted on 11/24/2005 7:41:24 PM PST by wagglebee

There will be no press junket, no premiere and, most importantly, no Oscar marketing campaign beyond trailers and posters for Steven Spielberg’s movie Munich, I have learned. This dicey decision to have no traditional publicity for the film before and after it opens December 23 is the director’s alone. He will not even be giving press or broadcast interviews. “The official strategy is for the movie to speak for itself,” an insider told me this week. “All they’re going to do is just show the movie to people. You have to be Steven Spielberg to get away with that.”

But competitors think that may also be because Spielberg may have snagged the cover of Time magazine, which no one will confirm.

For months now, Munich has been touted as the Oscar front-runner, even when no one had seen the film. The first invitation-only screenings of Munich will start after December 1. Executives for Universal, one of the producers/distributors of the film along with DreamWorks, are scheduled to see the completed movie November 30.

Even producer Kathleen Kennedy did not view the finished film, complete with John Williams score, until just a few days ago. A master of managing expectations, Kennedy came out of the film blown away by it, I’m told. “I’ve been making movies for 25 years and this could be his best,” she told a friend. That kind of praise has to be considered noteworthy since she produced Spielberg’s Oscar-winning Schindler’s List. (As the pal told me: “She wasn’t talking that way about War of the Worlds.”)

At the start of this year’s Oscar season, speculation centered on the tightness of Munich’s postproduction schedule because it began only on October 2. But the movie was finished scoring a week ago, a few days ahead of planning. As it is, Spielberg is telling friends that his only film that had a shorter postproduction period was Duel, and that was because it was a made-for-TV movie.

Last year, Mel Gibson announced that he wouldn’t engage in the usual Oscar marketing frenzy for his The Passion of the Christ, and it was overlooked at Academy Awards time even though it was a box-office blockbuster and artistic endeavor. The reason I suspected was that Oscar voters were uncomfortable with the zealotry of its subject matter. The chances of that happening to Spielberg’s Munich are slim to none this time around. Because of Spielberg’s involvement, I think Oscar voters are going to take on faith his view of this Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

However, the political minefield of the film’s subject matter — the tale of a secret Mossad hit squad ordered to assassinate the Palestinian terrorists who directly or even indirectly carried out the massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics in Munich — will be the main issue at awards time. Specifically, it all comes down to how the movie portrays its principal characters: Will the Israelis be seen as too bloodthirsty? Will the Palestinians be seen as too stereotypical? Insiders say Spielberg and his screenwriter Tony Kushner worked hard to create multidimensional characters.

But, just in case, he has also assembled a team of pro advisers to confront the international protestations that are sure to occur.

The trio consists of Dennis Ross, a well-known U.S. diplomat who played a leading role in shaping Middle East policy in the George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton administrations and is now The Washington Institute’s counselor and Ziegler distinguished fellow; Mike McCurry, President Clinton’s White House spokesman who is now a senior political strategist; and Allan Mayer, a crisis PR specialist with Los Angeles-based Sitrick And Company who has advised Spielberg for several years.

Spielberg has been deliberately vague as to the origin of the much-disputed facts conveyed in his movie. He has said it comes from multiple sources, and not just from Vengeance, the controversial book by George Jonas. (HBO adapted that book in 1986.) Both Palestinian terrorist Abu Daoud and Israel’s former Mossad spy chief Zvi Zamir have gone public with their anger about not being consulted beforehand by Spielberg about the film. During the summer, Spielberg issued this carefully worded statement to an Israeli paper, an Arab TV station and The New York Times: “Viewing Israel’s response to Munich through the eyes of the men who were sent to avenge that tragedy adds a human dimension to a horrific episode that we usually think about only in political or military terms. By experiencing how the implacable resolve of these men to succeed in their mission slowly gave way to troubling doubts about what they were doing, I think we can learn something important about the tragic standoff we find ourselves in today.”

Even at this late date, I’m told that neither the Israeli government nor the Palestinian National Authority have yet seen the movie. “Nobody’s seen anything. We’ve, as a courtesy, been in touch unofficially at a fairly high level and they know what’s going on,” an insider told me. “Given a lot of the other things on their plate, they have much bigger fish to fry than even a Steven Spielberg movie.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1972olympics; hollywood; munich; oscars; plo; screwthemoslems; stevenspielberg
I know that Spielberg is a liberal, but he usually leaves it out of his movies, and this looks like it will be fantastic.
1 posted on 11/24/2005 7:41:25 PM PST by wagglebee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: wagglebee; RonDog; All

.

T'was US Freepers -vs- THEM...

at the 2003 OSCARS:


http://www.post-gazette.com/nation/20030324antiwar0324p7.asp
(AP Photo/Article)

.


2 posted on 11/24/2005 7:47:04 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
However, the political minefield of the film’s subject matter — the tale of a secret Mossad hit squad ordered to assassinate the Palestinian terrorists who directly or even indirectly carried out the massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics in Munich — will be the main issue at awards time. Specifically, it all comes down to how the movie portrays its principal characters: Will the Israelis be seen as too bloodthirsty? Will the Palestinians be seen as too stereotypical? Insiders say Spielberg and his screenwriter Tony Kushner worked hard to create multidimensional characters.

The Israelis tracked down and meted out justic eot a bunch of killers. Only for Hollywood could such an endeavor be a 'political minefield'.

3 posted on 11/24/2005 7:50:35 PM PST by Rummyfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rummyfan

I assume the "LA Weekly" is a typical leftist rag, they probably don't recall that the entire non-Muslim world was fully behind Israel in the days after the Munich massacre.


4 posted on 11/24/2005 7:53:43 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

He's pretty much flopped since Private Ryan.


5 posted on 11/24/2005 7:53:57 PM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

http://imdb.com/name/nm0000229/

Sure he has


6 posted on 11/24/2005 7:56:09 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
“Viewing Israel’s response to Munich through the eyes of the men who were sent to avenge that tragedy adds a human dimension to a horrific episode that we usually think about only in political or military terms. By experiencing how the implacable resolve of these men to succeed in their mission slowly gave way to troubling doubts about what they were doing, I think we can learn something important about the tragic standoff we find ourselves in today.”

The Israelis had troubling doubts? What about the Palestinians. I guess they had no doubts and that's supposed to be okay?

So what's the message here? That we shouldn't retaliate against terrorists? That we should just sit by while they bomb us back to the stone age and make us all convert to their ways?

7 posted on 11/24/2005 7:56:15 PM PST by TX Bluebonnet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
There will be no press junket, no premiere and, most importantly,
no Oscar marketing campaign beyond trailers and posters for
Steven Spielberg’s movie Munich


Sounds like Spielberg is more embarassed by "Munich" than he was by "1941".
(Even if Spielberg wrote off "1941" even before it was released,
I'll never forget seeing it with a full house audience that was busy
laughing its' collective butts off at the film. Even Spielberg couldn't
destroy the inherent humor of Slim Pickens.)
8 posted on 11/24/2005 7:57:32 PM PST by VOA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rummyfan

What's interesting is the fact that Hollywood is mostly anti israel and here is a movie showing how Israel did what it had to to avenenge the murders of their athletes at the hands of terrorists. The movie might end up being a great movie but my guess is that the academy will snub their noses at it when it comes time to nominate.


9 posted on 11/24/2005 7:57:52 PM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator; wagglebee
WAR OF THE WORLDS.... MINORITY REPORT..... AI.....

I think he's lost and searching for material worthy of his talents. I hope MUNICH is great, but describing the massacrew of Israeli athletes at Munich as a 'tragedy' is not a good sign.

Gotta go... my daughter is kicking me off the computer!

10 posted on 11/24/2005 7:59:06 PM PST by Rummyfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

"Private Ryan" was, IMHO, the absolute best movie about war that has ever been made, especially the opening scene of the landing at Normandy.


11 posted on 11/24/2005 8:00:12 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
I thought the Normandy landing was astonishing cinema but the rest of that film stunk.  That's a trend I've noticed about every Spielberg film I've seen:  moments of true brilliance surrounded by crap.

I've always found "A Bridge Too Far" to be the best overall film addressing war.

That's just my opinion.

12 posted on 11/24/2005 8:12:12 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Rummyfan
I just got finished watching War Of The Worlds.

 

God, it sucked.  I would have turned it off had I been watching it by myself.

 

13 posted on 11/24/2005 8:13:52 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: marajade

that list is quite impressive.


14 posted on 11/24/2005 8:13:59 PM PST by curtisgardner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
He's pretty much flopped since Private Ryan.

Actually, I thought PVt. Ryan was a flop and I would have liked to have received a refund.

15 posted on 11/24/2005 8:14:27 PM PST by fso301
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

The same with me, I think it is definately the best one ever made and sadly it is rarely ever mentioned. The scene when Tom Hanks is dying and he says "earn this" says it all.


16 posted on 11/24/2005 8:16:00 PM PST by WillamShakespeare (What is a John Kerry?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Psycho_Bunny

I thought it was OK, the best being when Tom Cruise almost gets vaporized, then it turned stupid, not that it wasn`t already right from the start. I like how this alien machine comes from the ground and everybody stands around like they are expecting this....Nobody says "What the hell is that?" and throughout the whole movie everyone acts like they expect this alien attack. You would think at least one person would say "What the hell is going on??" or "What the hell is that?" but noooooooo, they all look up in the sky and see all this weird lightning and weird clouds and alien machines zapping them and none of them question it.."Oh it`s alien attacking us. Oh this is unfortunate, let us run away."


17 posted on 11/24/2005 8:23:11 PM PST by WillamShakespeare (What is a John Kerry?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

Because it's a stinker.


18 posted on 11/24/2005 8:28:14 PM PST by irons_player
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rummyfan

I especially liked the telephone hit.


19 posted on 11/24/2005 8:58:54 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
He's pretty much flopped since Private Ryan.

Maybe in your book he has. Other than the movie "Hook", I enjoy all of Spielberg's movies. I don't care if he is a lefty.

20 posted on 11/24/2005 9:01:44 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: marajade

Yes! He's making another Jurassic Park! (Homer Simpson voice) - "Woo-hoo!"


21 posted on 11/24/2005 9:02:39 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

But AI was just plain weird.


22 posted on 11/24/2005 9:02:49 PM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

The Israeli hit teams were called off when one of them whacked an (apparently) innocent Pali expatriate in Sweden(?, IIRC). The entire team was rounded up and jailed. The resulting diplomatic flap helped to promote the "sympathy for the downtrodden Palis" movement in Europe. A PR nightmare. I'm sure the Spielberg movie will emphasize this as a sop to the Leftist Internationalists.


23 posted on 11/25/2005 12:39:42 AM PST by pawdoggie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
You people propably missed this.

But, just in case, he has also assembled a team of pro advisers to confront the international protestations that are sure to occur. The trio consists of Dennis Ross, a well-known U.S. diplomat who played a leading role in shaping Middle East policy in the George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton administrations and is now The Washington Institute’s counselor and Ziegler distinguished fellow; Mike McCurry, President Clinton’s White House spokesman who is now a senior political strategist; and Allan Mayer, a crisis PR specialist with Los Angeles-based Sitrick And Company who has advised Spielberg for several years.

This plus Tony Kushner makes me very, very suspicious about this movie.

24 posted on 11/25/2005 1:16:48 AM PST by Witch-king of Angmar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

After reading this before bed, I saw an ad for Munich last night on TV.


25 posted on 11/25/2005 6:46:25 AM PST by TX Bluebonnet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
I know that Spielberg is a liberal, but he usually leaves it out of his movies

The guy who digitally removed the guns and terrorist references from "ET" and who turned "Jurassic Park II" into an environmental screed leaves his politics out of movies?

The guy who turned a story about a man trapped in a French airport into a story of a man trapped in a US airporat by unfeeling homeland security agents leaves his politics out of his movies?

The guy who directed "the Color Purple" leaves his politics out of his movies?

Sure, up to about 1993 you were probably right, but over the last ten years he's just another agenda driven lefty. The fact he, like a lot of lefties, considers WWII "the good war," doesn't mean he left his politics out.

26 posted on 11/25/2005 9:07:52 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WillamShakespeare

After the the opening bit where the first machine rose from beneath the street I thought it went downhill quickly. The whole bit with Tim Robbins in the basement was just stupid and unnecessary, and that's leaving out the casting of Tim Robbins. My complaints were mainly those aliens were so dumb: advanced as they were they didn't have infrared imaging technology, and they buried their machines here on earth, freezing the technology in place.


27 posted on 11/25/2005 11:25:10 AM PST by Rummyfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Rummyfan

I think part of the minefield is that the Mossad was mistaken on at least one case and killed the wrong person. I'm no expert of the post-Munich operation, though.


28 posted on 11/25/2005 11:26:59 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: HitmanNY

Dont' want to sound callous but...... I'm more comfortable with the Mossad erring on the side of caution than Pallies indiscriminately murdering people. But I can see how that could cause a problem in the retelling. Best just to play out the facts straightforwardly. But this is a movie right!


29 posted on 11/25/2005 11:31:25 AM PST by Rummyfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Rummyfan

I have no problem with the Mossad doing its business at all.

A major screw up is still a major screw up, though, and makes them come across as bad or at the very least, sloppy.

Anybody have any details of this screw up? I could be thinking of something else, though.


30 posted on 11/25/2005 11:32:49 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
I recall reading in Time mag. that we did the same after the Beirut barracks bombing.
IIRC Mossad helped with that .
31 posted on 11/25/2005 12:50:11 PM PST by Vinnie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HitmanNY
I think part of the minefield is that the Mossad was mistaken on at least one case and killed the wrong person. I'm no expert of the post-Munich operation, though.

The Mossad killed an innocent person by accident. The Palis have killed thousands of innocent people ON PURPOSE. Yet the story here is about how wrong the Mossad is? Is that right?

Unless I hear differently, I'm passing on this crap.

32 posted on 11/25/2005 1:09:19 PM PST by TX Bluebonnet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
I saw an ad for this film on TV recently. Maybe it is me, but I find it hard to believe Mossad agents had second thoughts and doubts over snuffing terrorist scumbags when they chose to go to another country entirely and kill 11 completely innocent people. But that was the impression I got from the ad.

Disgusting.

33 posted on 11/26/2005 1:30:24 PM PST by Houmatt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HitmanNY

And theyy're overlooking the obvious.. central piece... the palis killed the wrong people. they killed the entire athelte team. how about those deaths? were they right or wrong people?


34 posted on 11/26/2005 1:36:15 PM PST by Cinnamon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

Right. Except for Shrek, A Band Of Brothers, Men in Black II, he's not done anything.


35 posted on 11/26/2005 10:16:33 PM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Valin

I was referring to the movies he has directed, not produced, or been the executive producer for.


36 posted on 11/26/2005 10:31:50 PM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Vinnie

"I recall reading in Time mag. that we did the same after the Beirut barracks bombing.
IIRC Mossad helped with that ."

Really? I hadn't heard about that. Has anybody else?


37 posted on 12/04/2005 7:53:33 AM PST by dsc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
"But AI was just plain weird."

That's putting it mildly. It was stupendiously bad and totaly incomprehensible. Toward the end, there's a scene where you can see the boom mike in the top of the picture. Bad script, production, acting and editing. I couldn't believe it was a Speilburg picture.

38 posted on 12/04/2005 8:02:13 AM PST by joebuck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
"..........no Oscar marketing campaign beyond trailers and posters...........no traditional publicity for the film before and after it opens...............He will not even be giving press or broadcast interviews..........."

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......................

TIME magazines' latest cover has Spielberg on it. Look to the RIGHT [the site would not let me link to the pik, unlike all the other piks on the page].

http://www.time.com/time/

Its always been my understanding that nothing happens in the MSM by coincidence.

"......You have to be Steven Spielberg to get away with that........

Dats fo shor!

39 posted on 12/04/2005 8:06:45 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

It will star Barbra Streisand, who will sing at the end of the movie "There's a place for us", causing all the Pallies, ragheads, and Israelites to be moved to tears and start hugging each other and apologizing for past wrongs, blah, blah, blah...


40 posted on 12/04/2005 8:12:43 AM PST by dr_who_2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

No. What you meant to say was that was the last Spielberg movie you saw.


41 posted on 12/04/2005 4:23:57 PM PST by Dave W
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: DoctorMichael
TIME magazines' latest cover has Spielberg on it. Look to the RIGHT [the site would not let me link to the pik, unlike all the other piks on the page].

What the hell is that? Looks like a KKK member.

42 posted on 12/06/2005 11:56:33 AM PST by mozrock (They're not people, they're hippies!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson