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Mass. Investigates Defiance of 'Blue Laws'
AP ^ | 11/25/5

Posted on 11/25/2005 5:48:22 PM PST by SmithL

BOSTON - Massachusetts' attorney general is launching an investigation into several supermarkets that stayed open opened on Thanksgiving in defiance of the state's Puritan-era Blue Laws.

The laws were passed in the 1600s to keep colonists at home or in church on Sundays. Parts of the laws, such as the ban on Sunday liquor sales, have been repealed, but a prohibition on most stores doing business on Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's Day, has not.

"If these stores want to open, there's a way to do it: Change the law," David Guano, a spokesman for Attorney General Thomas F. Reilly, told The Boston Globe. The office didn't say what sort of penalty the stores could face.

The Globe reported that at least six stores, all Super 88 Markets, were open on Thanksgiving. One Super 88, in Quincy, shut down after a visit from police that day.

Reilly's office had earlier warned the Whole Foods supermarket chain not to open on Thanksgiving after a competitor complained. Wal-Mart, Family Dollar and Big Lots also received warnings.

Super 88 officials said they didn't know about the warnings.

"We don't celebrate" Thanksgiving, said Rudy Chen, a former manager of a Super 88 in Chinatown who now works at the chain's headquarters. He said the store he managed was always open on Thanksgiving and no one complained.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bluelaws; irony; masshole; nihilism

1 posted on 11/25/2005 5:48:23 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

The "defiance of blue laws" must mean voting Republican in Mass.


2 posted on 11/25/2005 5:53:11 PM PST by moog
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To: SmithL
the ban on Sunday liquor sales, have been repealed
3 posted on 11/25/2005 5:53:48 PM PST by joshhiggins
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To: SmithL

"several supermarkets that stayed open opened on Thanksgiving"

Now THAT I wish I had seen.


4 posted on 11/25/2005 5:54:40 PM PST by moog
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To: SmithL

This is the same Attorney General of Massachusetts who wants in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. (Seems he's selective about which laws he enforces.)

http://www.miracoalition.org/index.pl/press/press-releases/press-release--atty-general-tom-reilly-joins-immigrant-students#DQNhCSKN8pPlzJ_cztBhPA

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513442/posts





5 posted on 11/25/2005 5:58:47 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

no, almost all the stores that were Super 88s which is an asian chain store (that i love BTW) all over the greater boston area. I think the point of enforcing the law is to have it repealed. There is really no point in enforcing this law this one year on a store that has everything priced in chinese. The people going to those stores dont even celebrate thanksgiving.


6 posted on 11/25/2005 6:02:54 PM PST by minus_273
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To: SmithL

Even the Pennsylvania Supreme Court had the sense to find these laws unconstitutional in 1978 or 79.


7 posted on 11/25/2005 6:03:41 PM PST by mak5
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To: moog

its a chinese chain store where you rarely if ever see a non asian and all the signs and prices are in chinese. Not much use for non asians.


8 posted on 11/25/2005 6:04:23 PM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273

I remember going into a Chinese restaurant in a chinatown (not SF) one time and being the only white guy there. It was WONDERFUL food though.

I can read Korean, but those Chinese characters are too much.


9 posted on 11/25/2005 6:08:35 PM PST by moog
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To: SmithL

Rielly is running for Governor, he will quickly realize the large voting block of Asians he has pissed off, and forget about this.


10 posted on 11/25/2005 6:12:34 PM PST by Pondman88
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To: minus_273
The people going to those stores dont even celebrate thanksgiving.

Which is sad seeing how Thanksgiving is an American holiday and being that they live in America they really should celebrate it.

11 posted on 11/25/2005 6:19:13 PM PST by NYCynic
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To: SmithL

If I were in any position to do so, I would break every blue law, then take it to court and sue any agency that got in my way.

I am positive I would win... these laws are not just unconstitutional on their face but also enforced sporadically, which also violates the spirit of justice.


12 posted on 11/25/2005 6:25:53 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: SmithL

Oh the horror. Ted Kennedy drives drunk, kills people, walks free, and THESE are the "criminals" that need prosecution.

Whoever is pushing this overreaching prosecution should go have a same-sex Mass-acre "marriage" with themselves.


13 posted on 11/25/2005 6:29:50 PM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: SmithL

Connecticut still has our liquor-related blue laws on the books. No alcohol sales after 8 PM (9 PM now for some stores) and not at all on Sunday. I remember in college my friends and I made several 9 or 10 PM trips to Massachusetts to buy beer because someone forgot about Connecticut blue laws...

Our supermarkets in CT were all open yesterday, though.


14 posted on 11/25/2005 6:32:50 PM PST by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: minus_273

Why don't they celebrate? Aren't they in America?


15 posted on 11/25/2005 6:49:41 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: mak5

There Constitutional in New Jersey


16 posted on 11/25/2005 6:50:06 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: SmithL

Capitalism! Not in my state!
- Thomas F. Reilly


17 posted on 11/25/2005 8:39:17 PM PST by Roop
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To: SmithL

Mass. has Blue Laws? What a joke.


18 posted on 11/25/2005 10:12:28 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: NYCynic; The Cuban

While I have been fully assimilated, I dont really celebrate thanksgiving either. I guess i do when i am with friends who do. A couple of things would probably be a barrier to entry, first the traditional thanksgiving food is not even remotely like what asians eat. The funny thing is everyone celebrates X-mas though. I think the problem with thanksgiving is that it is linked to a certain kind of food which is alien to many immigrants. I dont really know, I am just guessing.


19 posted on 11/26/2005 11:10:41 AM PST by minus_273
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To: Eastbound

heh, until last year you couldn't sell alcohol on sundays at all and they actually enforced that one.


20 posted on 11/26/2005 11:11:40 AM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273
heh, until last year you couldn't sell alcohol on sundays at all
and they actually enforced that one.


Well, I guess like most "progressive" states, there is a limit on fun.
21 posted on 11/26/2005 11:14:46 AM PST by VOA
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To: SmithL

They must be repealed. Nothing, absolutely nothing should impede cash flow!


22 posted on 11/26/2005 11:16:03 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SmithL

er, by the way the spokesperson is named David Guarino (former TV reporter, I believe) not David Guano. Oh, guano!


23 posted on 11/26/2005 3:54:52 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: LibFreeOrDie
>>This is the same Attorney General of Massachusetts

And Thomas "Joe Friday" Reilly is RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR of the Commonwealth.
Is he a Democrat or a Republican? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
Raise your hands if you know. Anyone?

Yes, Mr. Reilly is a Democrat.


24 posted on 11/26/2005 3:57:42 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: SteveMcKing
If I were in any position to do so, I would break every blue law, then take it to court and sue any agency that got in my way.

I am positive I would win... these laws are not just unconstitutional on their face but also enforced sporadically, which also violates the spirit of justice.


I agree completly - they are ridiculous. I've not heard one logical argument in their favor, other than it's easier to keep them on the books and not enforce them.
25 posted on 11/27/2005 1:51:04 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: SmithL
Parts of the laws, such as the ban on Sunday liquor sales, have been repealed...

I was recently visiting in New Hampshire, and I was surprised to find that the first rest stop (not an exit) past the Mass/NH border on Interstate 93 in NH doubles as a liquor store -- there's one in each direction. I'm told it's for the Mass shoppers.

-PJ

26 posted on 11/27/2005 2:00:11 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I'm told it's for the Mass shoppers.

I seem to recall that MA used to put state troopers just over the MA side of the border to "discourage" MA shoppers. I believe they stopped that, but NH still cheers every time MA does anything to further encourage NH shopping -- in addition to the NH state liquor stores, NH doesn't have a sales tax and cigarette taxes are much lower.

27 posted on 11/27/2005 2:09:29 AM PST by maryz
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