Skip to comments.Schwarzenegger Mulls Clemency for Williams [Tookie]
Posted on 11/25/2005 5:58:18 PM PST by SmithL
San Francisco -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Friday that he would consider granting clemency to Crips co-founder and convicted murderer Stanley Tookie Williams.
After a private hearing with Williams' lawyers at his Sacramento office, Schwarzenegger said he would meet again on Dec. 8 with the lawyers, Los Angeles County prosecutors and others involved.
As governor, he has the authority to commute a death sentence to life without parole. He is not legally obligated to hold a public or private hearing. Schwarzenegger decides clemency requests on a "case-by-case basis," . . .
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I knew it! I fricking knew it that RINOLD would cave! Unbelievable...
And people wonder why they really wished for this.
Being the founder of the Crips, we know he "always" tells the truth. Get a crip.
I disagree. I don't think he has any intention of granting clemency, but for political reasons, he won't state his intentions until the very last minute.
California seceding from the Union? That would be nice. But for it to REALLY happen, it would be up to the other states and congress.
2/3 vote from congress and 3/4 of the states approval could (I believe) vote California out of the union.
A nation wide petition should be started!
Perhaps Tookie's "family" made Arnold an offer he couldn't refuse?
Williams, 51, has been behind bars since 1979, when he shot and killed four people during two robberies in Los Angeles.
He has been on death row since 1981 and is set to die by injection Dec. 13
Williams has refused to formally renounce his gang membership....
As for his bank account..high profile inmates such as Scott Peterson usually get $10 or $20 checks, Williams receives checks for $500 or $1,000 at a time.
Crittendon also cited Williams' willingness to share an exercise yard with Crips and his unusually large prison bank account. And he said Williams' younger son is a trouble-making Crips member in prison for murder.
California FReepers need to call the govenator and tell them that they support the death sentance to be carried out. Just because Hollywood liberals and the media kiss Tookie's butt does not mean justice should be denied.
Tookie is a piece of breathing trash and plenty of other people need the oxygen being wasted on him. He's no better than Uday Hussein. In fact, Uday had better taste in clothing, cars and women. Just spike him already and be done with it.
Isn't leaving convicts on death row for an indefinite number of years cruel and unusual punishment by any rational standard?
Execute the sentence already!
Now, now.... he said he is only 'considering' it. I think he's just giving it lip service. If he does grant clemency I wil be very disappointed and Ah-nuld's political career will be over, as any conservative support he has now will disappear.
As governor, it's on his head this guy dies. So considering this, reviewing the case and speaking to those involved in the prosecution is normal. I too would review the case, and then, based on the facts, would do what needed to be done.
I don't think he has any intention of granting clemency,...
Tookie probably threatened to have Arnold's family iced.
My gut feeling says he is going to grant clemency.
How will this effect his chances of being reelected?
His supporters should be asking for his exoneration, not clemency. Jeez, can't they get anything right?
If they are only asking for clemency then they are admitting that he's a liar.
He needs to stop stealing my oxygen and the oxygen of all law-abiding people. Having said that, so long as he never walks free I will not be happy, but content.
Yeah, it is, and I'm all for it. Think about it--if you knew the day, hour and minute you were going to die, where it was going to happen, how it was going to happen, who was going to be there--it'd drive a normal man crazy as the clock and calendar clicked you closer every minute.
Tookie should fry.
but given that Arnold's ballot initiatives failed because of lack of conservative voter support - frankly, as a purely political matter - I don't know that he owes the right anything on this issue politically.
Arnold is a liberal. Don't forget it. He will always do the wrong thing in a situation like this.
It doesn't matter whether or not he is remorseful or rehabilitated. It is G-D's job to forgive him, our is to send him to G-D. Kill him now.
Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.
"Stanley "Tookie" Williams (born December 29, 1953) was the founder, along with Raymond Washington, of the Crips, one of the most widely-known and notorious street gangs."
"He grew up in impoverished South Central Los Angeles where he made a name for himself for being a fighter and a "general" on the streets of the West Side of South Central. He was also known for his bodybuilding, which according to Williams, once earned the praise of Arnold Schwarzenegger himself when the two met in the late 1970s."
You might be thinking of Article 4, Section 3. "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."
Kill him already.
I think, that because of the constitutional prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment a law should be passed calling for execution in a timely and predictible manner.
And no more of this lethal injection non-sense. It's supposed to be a punishment. We're not putting an unwanted dog down; we're executing a criminal! Public hanging is traditional and educational. This Tookie should have been hanged by the county of Los Angeles many years ago.
You knew he would cave? Has he caved? He's merely listening to the attorneys which is SOP before the execution.
Let's see, you never liked Arnold anyway. I can't tell you how he'll vote ... but he had better not grant clemency or his political aspirations will be over immediately.
Which is how it is done by every governor.
He could grant clemency ... but I don't think he will.
This man murdered people, ARNOLDDDDDDDD......
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
It's a miscarriage of justice to let a death row inmate die a natural death, that's for sure.
They should be televised.
Arnold just needs to insure that the state will do what should have been done 20+ years ago.
If he does this Arnold should call off his 2006 election campaign because more law and order conservatives will not vote for him.
"If he grants clemency to a mass murderer, I will NEVER vote for him again. "
I heard an interview with the former warden of Tookie's prison - he said that while on death row Tookie had committed a series assaults on guard and sexual assaults on other men.
Clemency would send the wrong message to the kids who read his children's books... do something nice and it makes up for gunning down a family in cold blood.
To be more accurate, about 25 years ago.
And Bill gets his license back soon, he can represent him through the next round of appeals.
Well .. I have a message for Arnold. If he allows this killer to live .. he will never get re-elected.
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