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Carbon dioxide level highest in 650,000 years
Mongabay.com ^ | 11/24/2005 | Staff

Posted on 11/25/2005 6:41:59 PM PST by writer33

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To: crazyhorse691
My backyard monitor says 649,648 years. I won't be able to sleep until I find that missing 352 years.

This isn't funny. I'm scared to death, ch. :)HA!

21 posted on 11/25/2005 7:00:28 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

You are truly to blame HITH. Start drinking water. :)


22 posted on 11/25/2005 7:00:54 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=511&sid=5080155

Sunspot activity hits 1,000-year high

“We have to acknowledge that the Sun is in a changed state. It is brighter than it was a few hundred years ago, and this brightening started relatively recently – in the last 100 to 150 years. We expect it to have an impact on global warming,” he told swissinfo.

Last week Solanki, who is a professor at the Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, presented the findings at a conference of solar and stellar scientists in Hamburg, Germany.

His research team reached its conclusions after studying data from samples of ice collected by Swiss scientist Jürg Beer on an expedition to Greenland in 1991.

Most scientists acknowledge that greenhouse gases from fossil fuels have warmed the planet in past decades, but they have questioned whether a brighter Sun is also responsible for rising temperatures.

Global warming

Average global temperatures have increased by about 0.2 degrees Celsius over the past 20 years, and are widely believed to be responsible for new extremes in weather patterns across the world.

According to scientists, the Sun’s radiance has changed little during this period. But looking back over 1,150 years, Solanki found the Sun had never been as bright as in the past 60 years.

The indirect impact of more intense sunshine on the ozone layer and of solar activity on cloud cover may be affecting the climate more than the sunlight itself, he said.

“The change in solar brightness over the past 20 years is not enough to cause the observed changes in our climate. But the indirect effects may be larger, and the range of their influence is unclear, so more study is needed,” he added.

Sunspots

To see whether a brighter Sun is warming the planet, solar scientists have measured magnetic zones on the Sun’s surface, called sunspots.

Sunspots appear to intensify the Sun’s brightness and energy output, and their numbers are associated with climate, said Solanki, who is also managing director of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany.

Looking back over several hundred years, Solanki’s team found that not only did a dearth of sunspots signal a cold period – sometimes for as long as 50 years – but they also discovered that the number of sunspots increased over the past century as the Earth’s climate grew steadily warmer.

“All in all, I think we are coming to a point where we acknowledge that both solar activity and greenhouse gases are important factors in the change in the Earth’s temperature,” he said.


23 posted on 11/25/2005 7:02:05 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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Structure and Composition of Earth's Atmosphere

Composition of Earth's Atmosphere
Nitrogen 78.1%
Oxygen 20.9%
Argon 0.9%
Carbon dioxide, Methane, Rare (inert) gases 0.1%

From the table above we can see that approximately one-tenth of one precent of our atmosphere consists of the so-called green house gases plus the inert gases.

So these chicken littles want us to get horrified that as a percentage of the total atmosphere these represent 0.00038 percent. Worse yet that the overall CO2 increase of .00007 % of total atmosphere and as such will be the death of us all.

These so-called experts should stick to doing what they know best, letting the electronic cash register make change after they punch the fried chicken icon on the keyboard. Oh, and yes I'll have fries with mine.

24 posted on 11/25/2005 7:02:18 PM PST by Covenantor
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To: writer33

I thought it was getting a little stuffy....


25 posted on 11/25/2005 7:03:00 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Covenantor

I feel so much better, C. For a while, I was trembling with fear, but thanks to your chart, you've straightened me out.

I guess I can go back to Burger King now. Well, that's if I can get it lowcarb. :)


26 posted on 11/25/2005 7:04:06 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Oh, my, God. Now I'm terrified. Thanks, NAH. There goes the rest of my weekend.

:)


27 posted on 11/25/2005 7:04:51 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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Analysis of carbon dioxide in the ancient Antarctic ice showed that at no point in the past 650,000 years did levels approach today's carbon dioxide concentrations of around 380 parts per million (ppm).

Did they test the Arctic ice? It is a brave conclusion to declare that 'at no point' in the past 650,000 years levels of CO2 were lower. Did they test ice that was frozen for each of those 650,000 years? How do we know if the Anarctic ice that they tested from the Anarctic that froze over 650,000 years ago didn't contain acid from rain that would decrease the CO2? These idiots argue over what happened yesterday and I am supposed to believe them when they go back 650,000 years????? Get real......

28 posted on 11/25/2005 7:05:51 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: Brilliant

Yep. You better run down to McDonalds while you still have the chance, B.


29 posted on 11/25/2005 7:06:18 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: writer33
Analysis of carbon dioxide in the ancient Antarctic ice showed that at no point in the past 650,000 years did levels approach today's carbon dioxide concentrations of around 380 parts per million (ppm).

Did they test the Arctic ice? It is a brave conclusion to declare that 'at no point' in the past 650,000 years levels of CO2 were lower. Did they test ice that was frozen for each of those 650,000 years? How do we know if the Anarctic ice that they tested from the Anarctic that froze over 650,000 years ago didn't contain acid from rain that would decrease the CO2? These idiots argue over what happened yesterday and I am supposed to believe them when they go back 650,000 years????? Get real......

30 posted on 11/25/2005 7:06:34 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: Altair333

OK!

...and the 4.5 Billion 'newbies' added to the population since then, please 'off yourselves' immediately!

Reagan80


31 posted on 11/25/2005 7:06:35 PM PST by Reagan80 ("Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS the problem." -RR; 1980 Inaugural)
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To: Altair333

LOL! That's EXACTLY what the "progressives" want us to do. Go back to living in caves and eating roots and berries.


32 posted on 11/25/2005 7:06:40 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's no coincidence that the Democrat mascot is a jackass.)
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To: eeriegeno

It's so scary, eg. :)


33 posted on 11/25/2005 7:07:15 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: writer33
Sorry... my reply needs correction.

So these chicken littles want us to get horrified that as a percentage of the total atmosphere Carbon dioxide represents 0.00038 percent. Worse yet that the overall CO2 increase of .00007 % of total atmosphere and as such will be the death of us all.

There, that's better.

34 posted on 11/25/2005 7:07:37 PM PST by Covenantor
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To: writer33
So much garbage in this one.

Carbon dioxide is the principal "greenhouse" gas thought to be driving global warming.

DDD's Rule Of Media Bias # 27: The use of the passive voice in a news story is usually a sign of bias. It allows the writer to make an unsubstantiated claim read like an established fact.

35 posted on 11/25/2005 7:07:58 PM PST by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: Covenantor

gasp....


36 posted on 11/25/2005 7:09:48 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: Altair333

The sad part about it is that most of us probably could go back to the hunter-gatherer lifestyle if we had to. It's the PETA people and the virulent environmentalists and vegetarians who would probably do the most moaning about what they had in "the good old days". (some of them sneak Big Macs I suspect)


37 posted on 11/25/2005 7:09:49 PM PST by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
And The Day After Tomorrow will happen if we're not careful. Rule 1: Keep breathing to a minimum. Rule 2: Stop driving SUVs Rule 3: Stop the illegal war in Iraq. There's enough pollution there to end the world.
38 posted on 11/25/2005 7:10:58 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Covenantor

Now I might be able to enjoy the rest of my weekend. You're a gem, C.

:)


39 posted on 11/25/2005 7:11:30 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: denydenydeny

Stop denying what you know to be true.

:)


40 posted on 11/25/2005 7:11:45 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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