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Trio of Oregon cases before high court
StatesmanJournal.com ^ | 11-25-05 | Peter Wong

Posted on 11/25/2005 8:10:33 PM PST by Salvation

Trio of Oregon cases before high court

Taking arguments to the U.S. Supreme Court carries high price

November 25, 2005

Oregon will have the rare distinction of having the U.S. Supreme Court hear three cases originating in the state within a year.

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More than a month ago, in a case that has drawn wide attention, five lawyers from the state Department of Justice defended Oregon's assisted-suicide law against a challenge from the federal Department of Justice.

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On Dec. 7, lawyers will argue for the state in a death-penalty case.

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In the spring, lawyers will argue about the rights of foreigners in criminal cases that the U.S. Supreme Court accepted last week from Oregon and Virginia. The Oregon case involves a Mexican national, Moises Sanchez-Llamas, who was convicted of attempted murder in the 1999 shooting of a Medford police officer.

The court will decide whether foreigners detained in the United States must be told that they have a right to obtain help from their home country's diplomats and whether they can enforce that right in U.S. courts.

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The state also pays for the use of the Washington, D.C., offices of the National Association of Attorneys General.

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Expenses for the assisted-suicide case will be drawn from the budget of the Department of Human Services, which oversees the program. Expenses for the criminal cases will come from the state general fund.

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pwong@StatesmanJournal.com or (503) 399-6745)


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: assistedsuicide; cases; dezthpenalty; docket; nihilism; oregon; rightsofforeigners; scotus
Spending the Oregon taxpayers' money in Washington, D. C.
1 posted on 11/25/2005 8:10:34 PM PST by Salvation
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To: oregon; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...

Oregon Ping

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2 posted on 11/25/2005 8:11:59 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

I really cannot feel sorry for Oregonians...(as a Californian)...since they just keep voting the liberal disease back into office over and over.

What do they expect? Responsible, sane government?


3 posted on 11/25/2005 8:20:14 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Salvation

Oregon is an absolutely beautiful state. I don't know what the devil is wrong with the people out there.


4 posted on 11/25/2005 8:22:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I don't know what the devil is wrong with the people out there.

Sick bastards in Portland.

5 posted on 11/25/2005 8:59:00 PM PST by nwrep
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To: Cicero
Oregon is an absolutely beautiful state. I don't know what the devil is wrong with the people out there.

Speaking as a third generation Oregonian, the only thing wrong with Oregon is all the refugees from California. They fled a disaster in the making, and are busily creating a worse one.

Even 30 years ago, there was an official state slogan: 'Don't Californicate Oregon!" The state actively discouraged people from moving to Oregon in the '70's, but the campaign failed.

6 posted on 11/26/2005 4:11:52 AM PST by jimtorr
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So you are suffering the fates of Vermont and New Hampshire. All I know about Oregon is that we spent some very pleasant vacation time there at Cannon Beach and a nearby state park, on a visit from Seattle where I spent some time in the late 60s.

I recall the tale I heard in Seattle that the pioneers traveling west in covered wagons split at a fork in the trail, some settling in Oregon and some in Washington. But I don't recall which of the two groups my informant said was supposed to be good, and which bad. Something about the cream of the crop going in one direction and the dregs in the other.


7 posted on 11/26/2005 9:15:31 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nwrep
Sick bastards in Portland.

That place does seem to compete with Ithaca as the "City of Evil."

8 posted on 11/26/2005 9:54:19 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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So you are suffering the fates of Vermont and New Hampshire. All I know about Oregon is that we spent some very pleasant vacation time there at Cannon Beach and a nearby state park, on a visit from Seattle where I spent some time in the late 60s.

Would that be Ft. Stevens state park in Warrenton? Oregon has had a Democrat Governor for the last 20 odd years. That is a result of liberal Californians leaving the state they destroyed in droves moving to Oregon and bringing their disastrous politics with them. If you looked at a county map of Oregon only about 6 counties vote Democrat. Unfortunately those counties are the large metro areas with lots of voter fraud, corrupt unions, and welfare queens. Oregon, Vermont, and New Hampshire, are examples of conservative at heart states destroyed by liberals escaping their own handiwork.
9 posted on 11/27/2005 6:54:18 PM PST by Tailback (USAF distinguished rifleman badge #300, German Schutzenschnur in Gold)
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To: jimtorr

RE: #6

I agree totally.


10 posted on 11/27/2005 6:55:28 PM PST by Tailback (USAF distinguished rifleman badge #300, German Schutzenschnur in Gold)
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To: Tailback

The strange thing is, even the local greens and anarchists agree. At least, that's what I hear from the few people I still know in Eugene.


11 posted on 11/27/2005 7:09:51 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: Tailback
It was a long time ago, but Fort Stevens Park sounds familiar. That was probably it. I remember Cannon Beach and Haystack Rock more clearly. I just now did a google search and turned up this picture:


12 posted on 11/27/2005 7:19:46 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The strange thing is, even the local greens and anarchists agree. At least, that's what I hear from the few people I still know in Eugene.

That's because at heart, the Oregon Greens and Anarchists have more in common with conservative Libertarians than they do with Democrats. The problem is that the Oregon Republican Party is so incompetent that they can't connect to Libertarians or even Conservatives. The Oregon Republican Party is infectected with "so-called" converted democrats and RINO's. None of them are converted Democrats and the RINO's fight the "true" Republicans in the legislature more than the Democrats. A state party who's leader is a former member of the opposite party has serious problems. Mannix is a Manchurian Candidate.

I'm sure this is exactly what the Democrats had in mind. All of the different mostly conservative groups are split while the nutcase liberal psycho sociopath base is firmly set in the DemonRat column.
13 posted on 11/27/2005 7:29:16 PM PST by Tailback (USAF distinguished rifleman badge #300, German Schutzenschnur in Gold)
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To: Cicero

Yup that's Haystack. There are no overnight camping facilities at Cannon Beach. (Ecola State Park) Cannon Beach is my favorite town on the Oregon Coast but I'm biased since I grew up in Warrenton and I prefer the Northern Oregon coast.


14 posted on 11/27/2005 7:32:33 PM PST by Tailback (USAF distinguished rifleman badge #300, German Schutzenschnur in Gold)
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To: Tailback

I think most Oregon Greens are only Greens because they oppose clearcut logging. Well, I'm against it, too, but I'm not about to go chain myself to a tree. Clear cutting is downright wasteful of good wood. I've gleaned smaller logs from the clearings after the loggers have moved out, and they do leave a lot behind.

My father and his brothers were gippo loggers before WWII, and they used to tell me that the practice then was to only harvest the best stands of timber, and to leave the younger trees alone, for future harvesting. They left the best trees alone, as well, to re-seed the forest.

Clear-cutting was only begun as a national defense measure, and was supposed to stop after the war, but the housing boom and higher profits kept it going to this day.

The only lumber companies left in Oregon are those who never extensively clear-cut their own land, just federal and state forests. They have always used selective logging on their own land. Roseburg Lumber (name?) and Wyerhauser are two examples.

I could go on, but this is not the right thread.


15 posted on 11/27/2005 8:16:01 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: Tailback

Gotta say ditto to everything you just said there.


16 posted on 12/03/2005 10:11:09 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (42)
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