Gang founder's death row drama gains star support

Associated Press ^ | 11/26/05 | LYNN ELBER

[ThreePuttinDude]

(My ex-wife is stuck on stupid.)

Just think, she is someones everything now......ha ha ha

[Ninian Dryhope]

"But Williams has made "an extraordinary transformation," said Farrell, who's lobbied for him for several years."

He is about to make an even more extraordinary transformation from living gangster to a lump of dead meat.

[Ninian Dryhope]

"But, born a black man who has the capability of having brute strength and the capability of being smart in the ways of the world, he's going to get into what he gets into."


He got himself into some deep doo doo and is about to pay the price.

[ridesthemiles]

Snoop Dog is a former member of the Crips gang, the one that Tookie co-founded.

Hardly a ringing endorsement from someone "beyond arm's length".

Most of the young priviledged "actors" in Hollywood, especially the ones who are black have no first hand idea of the death and destruction the Crips and the Bloods have caused over the years.

Someone with some influence needs to take these uninformed followers of the colot of Tookies skin down to the morgue and show then up close and very personal the dead bodies and the evidence from the murders Tookie performed.

He is NOT repentant. He has more money in his prison bank account than anyone can account for the source thereof. He ONLY exercises in the prison yard with other Crips, which is segregated from the other inmates. Hardly qualifies as "no longer a gang member" to me. He has a history of trouble inside the prison, as recently as 2003, attacking staff, guards, and other prisoners.
He is evil scum and cannot die soon enough for most of us.

Jamie, you sure as hell don't pay my bills nor provide for my 24/7 safety. How dare you give voice to this person who has caused so much trouble??? Tookie has been in trouble since before you were born. Get your head on straight, Jamie Foxx.

[ridesthemiles]

Let Tookie move into Mike Farrell's home.
Let there be consequences for Mike Farrell if Tookie so much as spits on the sidewalk.
Then see how much Mike Farrell wants to keep spouting about how much "Tookie has changed".
The only thing that has changed since 1979 is that the taxpayers have taken care of his daily needs and Tookie has gotten older.
He needs to stop getting older, and Dec 2005 is fine with me.

[ridesthemiles]

He will cave......fear of riots by gang members will suck him in.""
One of these days, riots by the taxpayers will happen, and this is just one more nail in the coffin to have that happen, if they give this puke clemency.

[ridesthemiles]

Min. Farrakhan with Stanley 'Tookie' Williams.""

12 well-dressed black men in suits with bow ties, looking amazingly like the followers of "Louie" trashed 2 liqour stores in Oakland this past week. Store owners were Muslim, and there is no doubt in the local community that the hoodlums were Muslim, and most probably followers of Louie.

Louie endorsing Tookie puts this all in such perspective.

[1066AD]

Maybe get them all worked up, execute Tookie and Mumia at the same time.

[Ninian Dryhope]

"I've heard he might have killed a lot more--or ordered their deaths."

He certainly murdered many other and also ordered the deaths of others. The four are just the ones he has been convicted on.

[goldstategop]

The murderer-loving crowd has found someone to embrace... someone as intellectual as them but with blood on his hands. Its a cool combination to the jet set darlings.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[AmishDude]

Then once in prison Williams committed a series of assault on prison officers and a series of sexual assaults on male inmates.

Aha! Now I know why he's a cause celebre!

[AmishDude]

And EVERY article points out that all of the evidence against 'Tookie' is either circumstantial

Circumstantial is the best kind. Eyewitnesses can be very flawed. Besides, Tookie tended to eliminate the eyewitnesses.

OR from accomplices stooling on him,

They would know, wouldn't they? And more than one. What's the matter with you, newbie?

[gondramB]

"Then once in prison Williams committed a series of assault on prison officers and a series of sexual assaults on male inmates.
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AmishDude:Aha! Now I know why he's a cause celebre!"


That information came over the last couple of days from Fox from William's former death row guard - I'm trying to find it in print.

[gondramB]

Oh, and Tookie's defense, the guard said it had been more than 10 years since Williams raped another inmate.

But seriously, I'm a Christian and I believe it is entirely possible that God has intervened in this man's life and that he allowed himself to come to the Lord and that God has forgiven him.

That does not diminish the need for man's justice.

[AmishDude]

12 well-dressed black men in suits with bow ties, looking amazingly like the followers of "Louie" trashed 2 liqour stores in Oakland this past week. Store owners were Muslim, and there is no doubt in the local community that the hoodlums were Muslim, and most probably followers of Louie.

What's the theorized motive?

[AmishDude]

But seriously, I'm a Christian and I believe it is entirely possible that God has intervened in this man's life and that he allowed himself to come to the Lord and that God has forgiven him.

Then, better to send him to God now, before he relapses.

[goldstategop]

I'd never consider it. I'd sign the execution order myself and tell the murderer-loving crowd to hit the highway.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[goldstategop]

This thug can do more for society dead than alive. How's that for a reversal of trope?

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[goldstategop]

We certainly cannot forgive the murderer. We pray the victims get the justice that is their right. A civilized society owes them no less.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[chickenlips]

"If the lives of the people he gunned down mean anything,then he must die as scheduled."

You raise a good point. However, if those that say there is no intelligent design to the universe are correct then they don't have any intrinsic value. Their lives were meaningless and without purpose, arbitrary, mere accidents of random chance. Tookie was just practicing some social Darwinism, as would be expected.