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Minneapolis robberies are up 21% over 2004
MPLS Star & Sickle ^ | 11-25-05 | Chao Xiong

Posted on 11/26/2005 10:44:08 AM PST by Rakkasan1

Robberies in Minneapolis are on pace to reach their highest peak since 1997, according to the Police Department's robbery unit. Citywide, robberies are up 21 percent this year from the same time in 2004, police said. According to data released this week, there have been 2,462 robberies this year, compared with 2,038 at the same time last year. Robbery unit commander Lt. Michael Fossum said the number of robberies will probably be near or exceed 3,000 by year's end; the last time they hit that mark was 1997, with 3,326.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: aliens; crime; dfl; gangs; immigration; mayor; minneapolis; mn; robberies; rybak; yutes
Boy-mayor Rybak told us just prior to his re-election that if you were not engaged in a "risky lifestyle" ,you'd be just fine. BS.

at least the cops will be there real quick to take your victim statement.(sarcasm)

1 posted on 11/26/2005 10:44:09 AM PST by Rakkasan1
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To: Rakkasan1

Must have more gun control.......


2 posted on 11/26/2005 10:45:14 AM PST by neodad (My ex-wife is stuck on stupid.)
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To: neodad

here's what the highest property taxes in the state buys you ...not to mention craphole schools and lightrail to nowhere.(10 million riders my ass-how many actually paid to ride?) nice job , mayor. maybe your city council needs to pass more resolutions about Iraq.yeah, that's the ticket.


3 posted on 11/26/2005 10:47:22 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: Rakkasan1
Would not have anything to do with those "No guns" signs so many of them put up now would it?
4 posted on 11/26/2005 10:51:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets" Sgt. Clay Smith)
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To: Rakkasan1

Looks like Minneapolis needs more laws, more gun control, and more unrestricted immigration. Yeah, that's the ticket!


5 posted on 11/26/2005 10:53:00 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (De gustibus non est disputandum.)
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To: MNJohnnie

nowdays Mary Tyler Moore would get raped and mugged and someone would steal her silly hat.But I'm sure the perps are spending the money on prescriptions for grandma and food for children.


6 posted on 11/26/2005 10:54:15 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I'm sure passing a "liveable wage" law would cure all this.(sarcasm)


7 posted on 11/26/2005 10:54:53 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: Rakkasan1

They need some midnight basketball.


8 posted on 11/26/2005 10:57:17 AM PST by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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To: Rakkasan1

Yeah, because the smoking ban they passed sure isn't helping anything.


9 posted on 11/26/2005 10:57:33 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Rakkasan1

Another city down the drain.


10 posted on 11/26/2005 10:58:26 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Rakkasan1

Things went downhill after Mary and Rhoda left...


11 posted on 11/26/2005 10:59:51 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Let's tear down the observatory so we never get hit by a meteor again!)
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To: miliantnutcase
because the smoking ban they passed

Is that statewide, or just a "Da Cities" thing?

12 posted on 11/26/2005 11:00:45 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Frist would be a great Majority Leader if he had 65 seats..make that 75)
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To: Rakkasan1; All

It's interesting that illegal immigration is also at a high for that period.

"They call Minneapolis the new Axochiapan," said Ramiro Hernández, a successful businessman who arrived in the United States illegally 20 years ago from Axochiapan, a small town in the central Mexican state of Morelos. "Ninety percent of the population there has people over here. Kids come here as soon as they come of age."

The 2000 census recorded 41,600 Mexican-born people in Minnesota, up from 3,500 counted in 1990. Locals in Minneapolis say that new arrivals have multiplied even faster over the last five years, coming from Mexico and from Mexican hubs in the United States, notably Chicago. "We think there are around 200,000," Mr. Wolf said.(snip)
http://www.hispanic.cc/way_north_of_the_border,_st__paul_and_minneapolis,_minnesota.htm


13 posted on 11/26/2005 11:04:59 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: Rakkasan1
here's what the highest property taxes in the state buys you ...not to mention craphole schools and lightrail to nowhere.(10 million riders my ass-how many actually paid to ride?) nice job , mayor. maybe your city council needs to pass more resolutions about Iraq.yeah, that's the ticket.

Sounds like so many other cities in this country. It must be caused by avian flu.

14 posted on 11/26/2005 11:05:49 AM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Rakkasan1

I bet car thieft is up as well....
In my state the FBI had to move on several
new car lots in a major city.

The scam worked like this.....
Illegals were sold a car by the dealer.
The dealer secured financing through a
lender.
The illegal would default, the taxpayers
would pick up the tab.
The FBI had to move in and shut the dealer
down. The FBI estimated at the one
dealership, vehicles moved (stolen)
in this manner was near 100 plus or minus.
The real total never came out.....
Did the media say much about this....No.
In fact it would not surprise me that other
dealers are getting in on the scam.

Just think of all the other cities throughout
the country where this scam was going on or is
still going on and how many vehicles are being
moved (stolen) and the taxpayers are picking up
the tab.


15 posted on 11/26/2005 11:05:55 AM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: Rakkasan1
Now taking bets that 99.99999% of the robberies occur in the places that have signs out which state that firearms are forbidden.

I pointed that out when I was last in Minnesota to a manager. "Gee, if I was a robber, the first thing I'd notice is that 'no guns allowed' sign on your front door. Then I'd know you'd be easy pickings!"

He didn't seem to appreciate my pointing out the painfully obvious...but it sure didn't diminish my joy at his discomfort.

16 posted on 11/26/2005 11:08:37 AM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Why has the number of sworn officers dropped so greatly..?


17 posted on 11/26/2005 11:12:41 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: miliantnutcase
Don't forget all the effort that has been put in checking that everyone is wearing their seat belts.
18 posted on 11/26/2005 11:14:20 AM PST by Scandi (scandi)
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To: Rakkasan1
(10 million riders my ass-how many actually paid to ride?)

1) That number *is* the paid rides!
2) I live in Eagan and work in Saint Paul yet even I have used that system (round trip between Fort Snelling and Downtown) 7 times this year. four for a a training class downtown and three for baseball games.
3) Is not a light rail to nowhere (go to Buffalo NY to see on of those systems) it goes to two airport terminals, the mall of America and the largest city in the state. 4) It makes it from the MOA to Downtown faster than I can drive it (assuming I keep the speed limits)..

Other than that your criticisms of the Mayor are valid..

19 posted on 11/26/2005 11:21:53 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: ken5050

the mayor is anti-cop for one thing.morale is generally low in that dept.


20 posted on 11/26/2005 11:22:20 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: ErnBatavia

Just the Cities but, uggg, the state is looking at it.. I think Duluth also has a ban..


21 posted on 11/26/2005 11:22:45 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

how do you know that many paid . it's an "honor system" is it not? (IE:there's no real enforcement of any type.)


22 posted on 11/26/2005 11:23:43 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: ErnBatavia
Is that statewide, or just a "Da Cities" thing?

Just da Cities, they are pressing for it State wide. Some of the Minneapolis businesses are pressing for it because "hey they screwed me so let us screw everyone." How about this, how about you unscrew "da Cities" instead.

23 posted on 11/26/2005 11:24:26 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets" Sgt. Clay Smith)
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To: N3WBI3

If I'm not mistaken, Duluth had a ban long before Minneapolis. Everyone just drives to Proctor to drink.


24 posted on 11/26/2005 11:27:13 AM PST by lesser_satan
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To: Rakkasan1

I'm sure St. Paul will be following Minneapolis straight to hell, now that Kelly's out and those filthy Highland Park bolshevist creeps are running the show.


25 posted on 11/26/2005 11:30:24 AM PST by lesser_satan
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To: N3WBI3; Rakkasan1
Gee wonder how much you would use it if you actually had to pay the real user costs instead of getting another state wide subsidy for a Minneapolis only benefit. Wonder how many of the Light Rail riders could more then affords to pay the price that is being subsided by taking tax money from the working class state wide? Gee wonder how many linkage bus routes we could of bought for a $ 1 billion instead of a rail line that ONLY goes from point a to b and back? But gee the Urbanites and the Professional Pols get to feel real good about themselves. Just don't point out that it does NOTHING for congestion NOTHING for urban renewal and NOTHING for pollution. Too bad it is quite possibly the most inefficient use of Govt resources in State History and nothing but a "prestige" placebo.

But once again, everyone is a "conservatives" about OTHER peoples spending never when the Govt spends ON them.

26 posted on 11/26/2005 11:32:18 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets" Sgt. Clay Smith)
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To: N3WBI3
4) It makes it from the MOA to Downtown faster than I can drive it (assuming I keep the speed limits)..

Partly because all the lights on Hwy 55 are now timed to only allow the parallel traffic to proceed if there's a training coming. I've spent up to 9 minutes at EACH LIGHT waiting with NOBODY moving, for the next train to come by to allow all of us to continue. Hwy 55 is now virtually impassible.

Makes me wonder if they are doing that on purpose to bring truth to your statement.

27 posted on 11/26/2005 11:32:25 AM PST by Egon (By the way, I took the liberty of fertilizing your caviar.)
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To: ErnBatavia

it's a blue county thing. look at a map of what areas of MN voted DFL (aka Dumb Friggin' Liberal), you'll see population dense areas went DFL. the closer to the tall buildings, the more mental illness.look what crowding does for rats.


28 posted on 11/26/2005 11:33:11 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: Rakkasan1

Beacuse the number they were using to get ten million is the number of paid riders, they looked at receipts..


29 posted on 11/26/2005 11:35:57 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: MNJohnnie

which is why they had to sell their rail as a traffic reducer as part of the marketing package. it has actually made traffic worse in some places where you have to wait to cross the tracks. taking 1/2 of 1% of people who previously drove out of their cars on a regular basis adds up to what? you could fit that many people in Al Franken's eyeglass case.not to mention light rail has killed more people than concealed carry in MN.


30 posted on 11/26/2005 11:37:57 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: Rakkasan1

I'd be curious to see census data on immigrants, illegal or not, and compare the immigration rate to the crime rate. Minnesota used to be such a wonderful state. The people were honest, friendly, compassionate. The problem is they were too compassionate, so they passed some of the most liberal welfare laws in the country. This caused a huge influx of parasites. Also, many churches sponsored Hmong refugees. The Hmong, who were mistreated in their homeland, came in and started gangs and began making ridiculous demands on their benfactors.

I believe in compassion, just not in stupidity. I care about my kids, but that doesn't mean they get a free ride through life. They get an education. After that, they can provide their own ride.


31 posted on 11/26/2005 11:42:15 AM PST by IndyInVa
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To: N3WBI3
Look at the stops that the train is making: MOA to the airport. Airport to the airport (free ride). Airport to downtown.

This isn't serving primarily the citizens of Mpls/St. Paul, it's serving tourists, business people here for conferences, etc.

If they want to actually serve some Minnesotans, and relieve congestion (if that's possible), have it parallel 94 from St. Cloud, 94 from Woodbury, 35 from Burnsville, and 35 from Lino Lakes. Along 394 to the west would be nice too.

...and get it the heck off of surface streets where it messes up what should be alternative routes.

32 posted on 11/26/2005 11:42:20 AM PST by Egon (By the way, I took the liberty of fertilizing your caviar.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Gee wonder how much you would use it if you actually had to pay the real user costs instead of getting another state wide subsidy for a Minneapolis only benefit.

What if this were true about Buses as well?

Gee wonder how many linkage bus routes we could of bought for a $ 1 billion instead of a rail line that ONLY goes from point a to b and back?

Given A is the MOA (ample space to park) and B is downtown (with little space to park) I guess I think I might still pay the full rate for a ride rather than the 10-20$ an *HOUR* at some places to get covered parking downtown during the day.

Just don't point out that it does NOTHING for congestion NOTHING for urban renewal and NOTHING for pollution.

Really I guess you have not driven out of downtown before and after the rail from a twins game have you? I guess 10 Million (paid) on a single shot line is worse for congestion than fifty buses right?

I am saying this as someone who has seen light rail done very wrong: Minnesota has it right..

33 posted on 11/26/2005 11:42:53 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Rakkasan1

And it ONLY cost $1 billion which is what 75% Cost over run. Funny how the same people who scream bloody murder about Defense spending never have a peep to say about the waste in every day Govt spending


34 posted on 11/26/2005 11:43:09 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets" Sgt. Clay Smith)
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To: Rakkasan1

Minneapolis has had a do-gooder philosophy, now the chickens are coming home to roost.


35 posted on 11/26/2005 11:45:10 AM PST by KenmcG414
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To: Rakkasan1
Moscow on the Mississippi (MPLS) will find itself in the same shape as that other well known liberal mecca, Detroit. It should only take a few more election cycles.
But remember, we must celebrate the diversity. BARF!
36 posted on 11/26/2005 11:45:41 AM PST by Burf (We'll all be drinkin that free Bubble Up and eatin that Rainbow Stew.)
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To: IndyInVa

most Hmong here pull their own weight and then some.most of our problems are imported locally. look at raps sheets for repeat offenders some time or ask a veteran MPLS copper. the majority of our criminals come from Gary,Chicago,Milwaukee within the past 5 years.Few career criminals in MN hail from MN originally.


37 posted on 11/26/2005 11:46:53 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: N3WBI3; Rakkasan1
Beacuse the number they were using to get ten million is the number of paid riders, they looked at receipts..

If it is working so great why does it get an annual subsidy FOREVER from the State? We should be able to end that subsidy since it "works for 10,000,000 riders". BS and you Light Rail heads know it.

38 posted on 11/26/2005 11:47:45 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets" Sgt. Clay Smith)
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To: Rakkasan1

If you're living there, I'll take your word for it. I grew up there and only get back once or twice a year to visit family, so my view is probably not very complete.


39 posted on 11/26/2005 12:04:34 PM PST by IndyInVa
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To: IndyInVa

best get your non-resident carry permit.I live north. the only time I go there is when I win tickets to a game or concert there. Xcel Center in St.Paul is much better venue for concerts any way.


40 posted on 11/26/2005 12:14:13 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: IndyInVa
I'd be curious to see census data on immigrants, illegal or not, and compare the immigration rate to the crime rate.

See post 13

41 posted on 11/26/2005 12:41:32 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: MNJohnnie
A system of more than 100 routes and more than 900 vehicles was sacrificed for one route with 24 vehicles.

Metropolitan Council cut bus service on 70 percent of its routes. Because of this decision, 28 routes were eliminated and another 78 saw reduced service. In addition to this, bus fares were raised by 25 cents.

Metro Transit officials justified this recommendation because of an expected $60 million shortfall in revenues over the next two years. However, that $715 million+ was recently spent on the Hiawatha light rail line. That is over 12 times as much as the expected revenue shortfall. Furthermore, there is a proposal to extended light rail to University Avenue, which would cost more than $800 million.

Instead of spending several hundred million dollars on light rail, it would be better to spend $60 million to maintain the bus system. This would benefit more riders at a lower cost to taxpayers.

Stop That Train!(old but good article)

http://citypages.com/databank/21/1000/article8398.asp

42 posted on 11/26/2005 12:50:40 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: Rakkasan1
I worked for the Soo Line RR back in the early 70s out of MPLS and there were plenty of black and Hispanic gangs back then...in their own little ghettos

Back home in N Central WI when the first Hmong came in and there numbers were small they were OK folks..

Howerver as their numbers grew and their kids grew up and had their own kids,the white commie social workers told them they not only did not have to assimilate but were 'owed' cars, homes, money, all their essentials they turned mean and gangs sprouted up along with the prostitution of their own young ones along with drug importation...

Remember Hmongs made their money by growing opium and selling into the recreational drug market...that has not changed...the left has also told them this too is their traditional heritage and as such again is another 'right' they enjoy over others...

No other ethnic group sucks dry the welfare teat quite like the Hmongs..at least not in N Central WI.

IMO

43 posted on 11/26/2005 12:59:50 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister...necessitating her untimely death..-Mullet Omar)
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To: MNJohnnie
If it is working so great why does it get an annual subsidy FOREVER from the State?

For the same reason that all public transportation (including busses) get government subsidy's they dont make money. Same reason even though some highways are toll roads they still get outh sources of revenue to pay for construction. Infrastructure cost money..

44 posted on 11/26/2005 5:41:40 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Rakkasan1
not to mention craphole schools and lightrail to nowhere

I live north. Light rail really is rail to nowhere for anyone who doesn't live in the ring suburbs or in the Twin Cities proper. We just pay for it with state taxes that are already too high. We can thank Governor Turnbuckle for that.

45 posted on 11/28/2005 8:20:59 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Inertia: It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: N3WBI3

They admittedly DID NOT count "paid" receipts to arrive at that number. It was a number extrapolated from viewing riders getting on at one busy stop, and multiplying times the number of trains/trips.
This fact has been "outed" and discussed frequently on many TC radio programs. The "train people" have publicly admitted this.


46 posted on 12/09/2005 8:09:51 PM PST by Fireone (Homeland security is 10,000 rounds of ammo and 10 cords of dry firewood.)
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