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Bush is lying about old deception (Al Jazeera repeating Dem talking points)
Al Jazeera ^ | Nov. 27, 2005 | Al Jazeera editorial

Posted on 11/27/2005 7:42:45 AM PST by FairOpinion

The American President seems in a collision course with his country; with his presidency rolling steadily downhill, as Americans start to rub sleep away from their eyes, and numerous polls show a sharp decline in his approval ratings, which have reached an unprecedented level.

Amid raucous debate in Congress about an exit strategy from Iraq, Americans have become increasingly angry at their President’s policy. Not only has he deceived his people, Congress and the world about the reasons for invading Iraq; he is now deceiving them about the deceptions.

“In a burst of political tantrums, the president and the vice president have shouted that it was 'irresponsible' to assert that there had been deception and it was unfair to the troops fighting in Iraq”, stated a Chicago Sun-Times editorial.

Bush’s admin is now lying about its old lies- Bush misused data to justify Iraq war, and most, if not all of his arguments in the run up to the war turned out to be false. And his administration’s current argument that it is "irresponsible" to question the old arguments is equally false.

“If a lie is a conscious effort to deceive, then the charge that the president and the men around him deliberately lied and are now lying again, then that issue must be left to heaven. It is enough to say they spread falsehoods three years because they had made up their minds that there had to be a war and are now spreading falsehoods about the original falsehoods,” the article added.

And because he’s not a man who likes to admit his mistakes, Bush seeks to cover up the mistakes with new ones, and protect old lies from uncovering by lying.

Cindy Sheehan, mother of Casey Sheehan, an American soldier killed last year in Iraq, has returned to Crawford, Texas, to resume her anti-war campaign against President Bush, according to The Associated Press.

Sheehan, the mother of a fallen soldier whose vigil against the war in Iraq outside President Bush's ranch, was greeted by nearly three-dozen cheering supporters as she arrived at the Waco airport.

The woman stressed that she will "keep pressing" Bush’s admin until it ends Iraq occupation and brings the U.S. troops back home.

But many protesters were arrested near the ranch, while more than 100 continued the protest Wednesday with a symbolic Iraqi meal, and instead of the usual Thanksgiving feast, they ate salmon, lentils and rice.

"I feel happy to be back here with all my friends ... but I'm heartbroken that we have to be here again," Sheehan said.

"We will keep pressing and we won't give up until our troops are brought home."

Lies by the American Vice President Dick Cheney and Bush are almost the same- They both claimed and still claim the former Iraqi regime was trying to import "yellowcake" uranium for nuclear weapons.

And contrary to previous claims by the President who asserted that everyone agreed that Saddam did possess Weapons of Mass Destruction and that it is not his fault that all the intelligence agencies of the world believed that he did, many Democratic senators said they disagreed with Bush’s argument and said that they weren’t realizing how much the case in favor of the war had been cooked and that the administration created the atmosphere among the nation to deceive it and win support for the war.

Challenging old lies by the President, who’s trying to throw the blame on the intelligence agencies, the Democrats now say that not everyone in Washington supported the war.

Iraq war has been on Bush’ agenda even before September 11 attacks on the United States in 2001. More than four years ago and before the attacks took place, the administration leaders, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz sought a war with Iraq, with some trying to come up with evidence that Iraq was in one way or another connected to Al Qaeda network, which allegedly carried out the attacks.

Everyone was trying to find evidence.

Then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and the vice president warned of "mushroom clouds."

Not only did the President deliberately lie to his people, he nonetheless presided over what was in effect and in truth a massive deception.

He would have gained his nation's and world’s respect if he just admitted his mistakes and assume responsibility, but it seems he’s not prepared or willing to do so.

About three-fifths of Americans now believe their President did in fact deceive them. And lying didn’t stop at launching Iraq war, Bush and Donald Rumsfeld, the Defense Secretary are now spreading more lies and deceiving the people about the reality of what’s going in Iraq, claiming that the U.S. military is achieving great successes in the country, and that everything is now under the control of the U.S. military

Another lie is that the U.S.-led occupation forces won’t leave Iraq now to make sure the country’s own forces and army are ready to handle its security, and that once the Army is done with the training of the Iraqi forces, they’ll withdraw immediately, but of course we are not told how long that will take- Why after several years of that effort is there only one fully capable Iraqi unit (of 750 men)?

Despite Cheney and Bush’s recent rhetoric and speeches rejecting the Democrats’ calls for an immediate withdrawal from the war-torn country, U.S. commanders have already started plans to close bases and withdraw troops in the coming year, according to two congressmen who returned from Iraq this week.

"They wouldn't put a hard date on it, but clearly the planning is at a very mature level," Rep. John Kline, R-Minn., said. "We can shrink down the number of bases as we shrink down the number of Americans."

Also Rep. Mark Kennedy, R-Minn., said that in some Iraqi cities the turnover is already in progress. "They have a planned turnover process where American troops have already pulled back from some of the smaller bases.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aljazeera; bushlied; demlies; democrats; iraq; iraqwar; terrorism
Normally I don't post Bush bashing articles, even "as an example", we see enough of that in the MSM.

The reason I posted this one from Al Jazeera is to show the evidence, that the Dems are indeed encouraging the enemy, giving them aid and comfort.

The terrorists cannot win, can't beat us, so the Dems are helping them out by trying to weaken our resolve, and the terrorists understand that.

1 posted on 11/27/2005 7:42:47 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Al Jazeera repeating Dem talking points

Birds of a feather.

2 posted on 11/27/2005 7:46:27 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English press one. Only in America!)
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To: FairOpinion
continued the protest Wednesday with a symbolic Iraqi meal, and instead of the usual Thanksgiving feast, they ate salmon, lentils and rice.

This is the first I've heard that salmon is an Iraqi meal.

3 posted on 11/27/2005 7:47:06 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: FerdieMurphy

I wouldn't put it past the Dems or our own MSM to have actually written this editorial piece, note it's not attributed.


4 posted on 11/27/2005 7:48:00 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion; MinuteGal; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow
Sheehan, the mother of a fallen soldier whose vigil against the war in Iraq outside President Bush's ranch, was greeted by nearly three-dozen cheering supporters as she arrived at the Waco airport.

Snort!

ALL ALONE BY THE TELEPHONE (as sung by Cindy "Olive Oyl" Sheehan)

5 posted on 11/27/2005 7:48:40 AM PST by dighton
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To: Dog Gone

"This is the first I've heard that salmon is an Iraqi meal."


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Oh, you mean you don't know about all the salmon the Iraqis catch in the desert? ;)


6 posted on 11/27/2005 7:49:09 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
And you can now see how the Dem's are providing comfort to the enemy. The turmoil here, is mirrored to uninformed populous of the Arab nations.
The Arab people don't understand how the Democratic process works since most of them are ruled by 1 person for his life. Our process rotates and allows a truly bad position to be modified or reversed. To them the only change is a violent change of "overthrowing" a Leader.
7 posted on 11/27/2005 7:50:24 AM PST by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: FairOpinion

Not that it would make one bit of difference, but it would be nice if Al-Jazeera printed this: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/Production/files/podhoretz1205advance.html


8 posted on 11/27/2005 7:52:49 AM PST by KJC1
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To: FairOpinion
The big lie: Islam is a religion of peace.
9 posted on 11/27/2005 7:55:54 AM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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To: FairOpinion
I wouldn't put it past the Dems or our own MSM to have actually written this editorial piece, note it's not attributed.

I'm sure the fact that the article repeats all of the Democrat talking points is merely a coincidence.

10 posted on 11/27/2005 7:56:01 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: FairOpinion

Amazing. There was an Al Jazeera article a while back that echoed Ted Kennedy's statement saying that the torturers were back at Abu Ghraib, but it's good to have evidence like this to throw back at the lefties. Thanks for posting it.


11 posted on 11/27/2005 8:00:21 AM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: FairOpinion
Bush is lying about old deception

Then we have the age old question. If you lie about a lie, are you telling the truth?

12 posted on 11/27/2005 8:00:40 AM PST by stevem
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To: KJC1

Thanks for the link:

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/Production/files/podhoretz1205advance.html

Problem is that not only Al Jazeera wouldn't print an article pointing out the facts, neither does the MSM.


13 posted on 11/27/2005 8:00:41 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Al Jazeera represents mainstream Islam. Islam can murder innocent civilians without conscience. Why are we surprised when they lie? And why are we surprised that Al Jazeera, our DemocRats and MSM tell the same lies?


14 posted on 11/27/2005 8:08:56 AM PST by manwiththehands
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To: DTogo
The big lie: Islam is a religion of peace.
How true.
The big truth is the dems and al jazeera are partners in crime.
15 posted on 11/27/2005 8:15:35 AM PST by gibonski
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To: manwiththehands; FairOpinion; Tarantulas; KJC1; FerdieMurphy
Y'all know that aljazeera.com is not the same as the well known media organisation that runs Al Jazeera tv news channel and whose website can be found at aljazeera.net, right?
16 posted on 11/27/2005 8:19:54 AM PST by Canard
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To: FairOpinion
Why after several years of that effort is there only one fully capable Iraqi unit (of 750 men)?

Probably because we have a much higher standard of what comprises a battle-ready unit. We've seen (twice) just how "capable" the Iraqi army is against a real fighting force. The Republican Guard units under Saddam's regime were a step above a street gang with armor.

17 posted on 11/27/2005 8:38:28 AM PST by edpc
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To: FairOpinion

Yes, the famous sand trout.


18 posted on 11/27/2005 8:44:27 AM PST by doodad
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To: Tinman73

Our system also allows good positions to be modified or reversed. That's the problem. It is difficult to maintain necessary but unpopular long-term strategies in democratic countries. The Cold War was the exeption, and that wasn't even that unpopular given the absence of active combat. And Carter almost lost it for us.


19 posted on 11/27/2005 8:59:04 AM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Born to sing the Blues)
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To: FairOpinion

And, the leftists want us to believe that they are the "loyal" opposition. This editorial is proof positive that they are traitors giving aid and comfort to the enemy.


20 posted on 11/27/2005 9:03:55 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Canard

I just learned this. Thanks for the tip. I don't see the difference, though. Both speak for Islam, don't they?


21 posted on 11/27/2005 9:10:12 AM PST by manwiththehands
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To: FairOpinion
as Americans start to rub sleep away from their eyes...

Wow. I had no idea we were sleeping for the last five years and we conservatives have been kicking some ass. Just think of how much better we would have done had we been awake...sarc
22 posted on 11/27/2005 9:10:39 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: FairOpinion
(Al Jazeera repeating Dem talking points)

I think the title is backwards, "Dem repeating Al Jazeera talking points". Actualy they appear to be interchangeable, and are nearly synomonus.

23 posted on 11/27/2005 9:27:43 AM PST by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: DustyMoment; FairOpinion; Grampa Dave; Zacs Mom; MinuteGal; oldglory; mcmuffin; gonzo; ...
"And, the leftists want us to believe that they are the "loyal" opposition. This editorial is proof positive that they are traitors giving aid and comfort to the enemy."

This post in another thread fits well here, too:

"This great work was created by Zacs Mom." ~ Grampa Dave

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.

An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known, and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very hall of government itself.

For the traitor appears no traitor. He speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in hearts of men.

He rots the soul of a nation. He works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city. He infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A Murderer Is Less To Be Feared." Cicero, 42 B.C.

PS ~ FYI, in cased any of you missed reading the thread which featured this [11/28/05 issue of] U.S.News & World Report [Michael Barone] article: The (Very) Big Lie ... it's a damn fine read! 8 posted on 11/27/2005 9:30:31 AM EST by Grampa Dave ---- (Watch the rats re Iraq in 1998)

24 posted on 11/27/2005 9:28:26 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Matchett-PI

Thanks for posting Zacs Mom great pictorial collage of the lunatic left.

Just a few decades ago, these lunatics would have been locked up to protect themselves and society from them.

Now, thanks to the MSM redoing what is sane and insane, these lefty lunatics are portrayed as the great ones.


25 posted on 11/27/2005 9:44:57 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Watch the rats re Iraq in 1998: http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/111505.wmv)
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To: manwiththehands; Canard

" don't see the difference, though. Both speak for Islam, don't they?"

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Exactly. This is what their Muslim/Arab readers read.

Saying that this is not the Al Jazeera TV network, is like saying that the New York Times is NOT CNN. Soooo?

They are still the same lying MSM, and the various Arab media is still parroting the Dem lying talking points.


26 posted on 11/27/2005 10:07:57 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Matchett-PI; Zacs Mom
That police lineup is overwhelming and frightening.

God Save the Republic.

(....we shall overcome, heheh)

Leni

27 posted on 11/27/2005 10:15:19 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Matchett-PI

There's a picture missing of the latest anti-America hero - Cindy Sheehan.


28 posted on 11/27/2005 10:18:10 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: FairOpinion

al jazerra, al gore, al franken, al queda, all speaking from the same koran. Bush lied, we tell the truth. Republicans bad, al queda {the middle eastern branch of the demonRAT party} good.


29 posted on 11/27/2005 10:19:20 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: FairOpinion

The Democrats do indeed give aide and comfort to the enemy. How many more terrorists will be inspired by this Al Jazeera report the Democrats have helped to spawn? How many more soldiers and how many more innocent people will die because of the Democrats' actions? Do they care?


30 posted on 11/27/2005 10:24:19 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Grampa Dave
"Thanks for posting Zacs Mom great pictorial collage of the lunatic left."

You're welcome. I'm glad I happened to see it on the other thread where you posted it. Trouble is, they are just the tip of the iceberg of what constitutes the enemy within this country. I saw Dr. Walid Phares being interviewed on Fox yesterday about his new book, so looked him up on Google. Chapter 13 especially was mentioned by the host as "knocking his socks off". The book is entitled, "Future Jihad Terrorist Strategies Against America" by Dr. Walid Phares

One excerpt from International early reviews:

From Paulo Casaca, Socialist Member of the European Parliament. Chairman, NATO delegation at the EUP.

"Walid Phares Jihad anatomy"

"The Islamist Jihad on the United States did not start on September eleven 2001; indeed it was preceded by several other attacks as well as a formal war declaration from Bin Laden. However, America was taken absolutely by surprise. Phares' book is the best comprehensive explanation so far of this paradox: American society - including its Academia, Public Opinion, Business and Political establishment - was made dormant by a systematic and unchallenged action from the Salafist circles, and that's the reason why of the success of the attack.

This book is a must read not only for all those in America who want to better understand their enemies but specially to those who are facing the "soft-jihad" infiltration in their societies that took place before in America."

[SNIP] Click link to read more.

"Just a few decades ago, these lunatics would have been locked up to protect themselves and society from them. Now, thanks to the MSM redoing what is sane and insane, these lefty lunatics are portrayed as the great ones."

Only ignoble moral relativists will buy into what Cicero called "[the enemy's] appeal to the baseness that lies deep in hearts of men"

Those of more noble character consistently resist giving in to their baser instincts and refuse to sell out their country for personal gain (temporary fame and fortune).

One finds NO noble mentalities who want to identify themselves with what has become the majority base of today's RAT party.

The emasculated RAT "blame America first / anti-war kook-fringe" Party is responsible for the fact that our enemies were emboldened by our show of weakness at every turn. They are the cause of us being viewed around the world as a "paper tiger". They, and those who voted for them, are responsible for the 9/11 attack on our own soil which killed more people than the attack on Pearl Harbor.

These enemies within that Cicero so accurately described, can never be safely entrusted with the reins of power and the security of the United States again.

Noble Americans will see to it.

31 posted on 11/27/2005 10:29:03 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: FairOpinion

"Saying that this is not the Al Jazeera TV network, is like saying that the New York Times is NOT CNN"

Not really. Looking at the site, it's more like claiming that some random blogger isn't CNN. From what I can google, aljazeera.com is a electronic version of what used to be a print magazine, but is now only distributed in electronic form. According to their response to a complaint filed by Al Jazeera tv they claim:

"It has operated in London since 1992, but has a regional office in Dubai, which is the address for the administrative and technical contact for the domain name. It says that it operates a publishing business in which it employs 32 members of staff globally, with offices in the United Kingdom and in Dubai, and editorial teams in the United Kingdom, Egypt, and Malaysia."

http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/decisions/html/2005/d2005-0309.html

By their own numbers, they only claim 8000 subscribers and certainly wouldn't qualify as 'mainsream media' especially in the Middle East. Nor do they make any pretence at impartial reporting (one of the main links on the homepage is titled 'conspiracy theories'!)


32 posted on 11/27/2005 10:37:37 AM PST by Canard
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To: DustyMoment; MinuteGal; oldglory; mcmuffin; gonzo; JulieRNR21
"There's a picture missing of the latest anti-America hero - Cindy Sheehan."

Free Republic would run out of bandwidth if we tried to post all their pictures. One of them (Ramsey Clarke) is headed over to Iraq right now to help defend Saddam Hussein.

See my link in post # 31 to a new book that just came out.

33 posted on 11/27/2005 10:47:54 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Matchett-PI

That gallery is proof of the old saying "politics is showbusiness for ugly people."


34 posted on 11/27/2005 11:27:17 AM PST by edpc
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To: FerdieMurphy

Whenever ANY Dem starts to say that he supports the troops and not the war, remind them of this....when you cannot distinguish between the Democrats position and that of AlJazeera, we know that the Dems in this country are no better than Tokyo Rose. Do they have the right to dissent? Absolutely. However, the words they speak..calling Bush a liar, ignoring their earlier support by revising history, insisting on a time table despite the fact that they KNOW it would play into the terrorists hands...are in fact treasonous. They WANT us to lose this war only because they WANT power. PUre and simple.


35 posted on 11/27/2005 12:55:56 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Matchett-PI; backhoe; Cindy

Thanks for the links and info.

I have pinged a couple of FR's historians and keepers of little known knowledge.


36 posted on 11/28/2005 7:01:36 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Watch the rats re Iraq in 1998: http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/111505.wmv)
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To: Grampa Dave

You're welcome!


37 posted on 11/28/2005 7:14:36 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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