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Activists hail reform of prisoner (Tookie Williams)
The Modesto Bee ^ | November 27, 2005, 08:11:15 AM PST | Michael G. Mooney

Posted on 11/27/2005 8:32:43 AM PST by keat

There undoubtedly are many people who consider Stanley "Tookie" Williams a ruthless and cold-blooded killer, fully deserving the sentence of death by lethal injection awaiting him Dec. 13. But those people, say his supporters, only see the wild-eyed young man of the early 1970s — the co-founder of the notorious Los Angeles Crips street gang. They don't see the man he's become today.

A small knot of Modesto activists hope to change all that through a teach-in Saturday on Williams and the transformation they say he's undergone while confined to Death Row at San Quentin State Prison.

"He's valuable to our community," said Vintrica Grant, a student at California State University, Stanislaus

(Excerpt) Read more at modbee.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: 2saveoursociety; cookhim; deathpenalty; execution4thefuture; massmurderer; tookie; tookiewilliams; unrepentant
But the governor said to them, "Which of the two do you want me to release for you?" And they said, "Barabbas."Matthew 27:21
1 posted on 11/27/2005 8:32:44 AM PST by keat
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To: keat

Let him meet his Master and He will judge.


2 posted on 11/27/2005 8:34:24 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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To: keat

I could reform pretty much, too, if it meant my a$$ not being fried. I wonder which of the 'activists' will want this guy living next to them? Or maybe even with them.


3 posted on 11/27/2005 8:34:27 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: keat

4 posted on 11/27/2005 8:34:47 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: keat

"He's valuable to our community," said Vintrica Grant, a student at California State University, Stanislaus
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And we wonder about the grand contribution to this country that academia makes. Their perverted liberalism and lack of sense of morals and values, is a bane upon this country.


5 posted on 11/27/2005 8:34:53 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Right Wing Assault
I wonder which of the 'activists' will want this guy living next to them?

Probably any and all of them actually.
6 posted on 11/27/2005 8:36:37 AM PST by keat (Who the f___ is I. Lewis Libby?)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Think of the message that we can send to the Crips and the Bloods. You kill, you pay the price. Once the damage is done the debt is due. Time for the big dose!!!


7 posted on 11/27/2005 8:37:00 AM PST by Sterco
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To: keat

I've been to his website. Although he has apologized for the creation of the Crips, he has not apologized for the murders for which he was imprisoned.


8 posted on 11/27/2005 8:37:51 AM PST by Restorer (They want to die. We want to kill them.)
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To: keat

Jailhouse (and esp. death row) conversions are not rare. We let him off the sentence now and floodgates open. The jury/judge decision should stand.


9 posted on 11/27/2005 8:37:59 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: keat

Tookie Delenda Est!


10 posted on 11/27/2005 8:38:12 AM PST by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: keat

""He's valuable to our community," said Vintrica Grant, a student at California State University, Stanislaus"

Yeah what would we do without gang creators and murderers?


11 posted on 11/27/2005 8:42:06 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: EagleUSA

"And we wonder about the grand contribution to this country that academia makes. Their perverted liberalism and lack of sense of morals and values, is a bane upon this country."

Well said.

Additionally, it would seem the more "elite" the university, the greater theperversion. I pray that the public at large begins to understand this, setting in motion a movement to dramatically cut government funding to the university shelter-from-the-real-world system.


12 posted on 11/27/2005 8:45:04 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: keat
What part of "We will burn down our cities if Tookie dies" doesn't everyone understand?

Isn't this what they're telling us? How does this differ from terrorism?

13 posted on 11/27/2005 8:45:08 AM PST by digger48
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To: No Blue States

Just hang him NOW!


14 posted on 11/27/2005 8:47:36 AM PST by jocko12
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To: keat
Carla Faye Tucker was also fully reformed and a great asset in Christian ministry...

She had many friends and advocates as well...of course no notable liberal commies like this murderer has..

But then again she became a Christian..

She was executed for her brutal crimes anyway....inspite of many upright and influential members of the community.

Her sins were forgiven and her soul was saved from hell...but the life in her earthly body was ended..justly

The state does not bear the sword in vain.

15 posted on 11/27/2005 8:49:14 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister...necessitating her untimely death..-Mullet Omar)
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To: keat
Williams has refused to formally renounce his gang membership....
16 posted on 11/27/2005 8:49:49 AM PST by perfect stranger
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To: EagleUSA

"And we wonder about the grand contribution to this country that academia makes."



The sick irony is that this is the same type of person that academia welcomes into their profession as teachers of our children. It's shameful.


17 posted on 11/27/2005 8:53:47 AM PST by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: keat
'Now, Twenty Seven,' said Mr. Creakle, entering on a clear stage with his man, 'is there anything that anyone can do for you? If so, mention it.'

'I would umbly ask, sir,' returned Uriah, with a jerk of his malevolent head, 'for leave to write again to mother.'

'It shall certainly be granted,' said Mr. Creakle.

'Thank you, sir! I am anxious about mother. I am afraid she ain't safe.'

Somebody incautiously asked, what from? But there was a scandalized whisper of 'Hush!'

'Immortally safe, sir,' returned Uriah, writhing in the direction of the voice. 'I should wish mother to be got into my state. I never should have been got into my present state if I hadn't come here. I wish mother had come here. It would be better for everybody, if they got took up, and was brought here.'

This sentiment gave unbounded satisfaction - greater satisfaction, I think, than anything that had passed yet.

'Before I come here,' said Uriah, stealing a look at us, as if he would have blighted the outer world to which we belonged, if he could, 'I was given to follies; but now I am sensible of my follies. There's a deal of sin outside. There's a deal of sin in mother. There's nothing but sin everywhere - except here.'

'You are quite changed?' said Mr. Creakle.

'Oh dear, yes, sir!' cried this hopeful penitent.

'You wouldn't relapse, if you were going out?' asked somebody else.

'Oh de-ar no, sir!'

18 posted on 11/27/2005 8:55:27 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: EagleUSA

bump


19 posted on 11/27/2005 8:55:45 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Restorer
"Though the Heavens fall, let justice be done." (I've forgotten the Latin for this long standing rubric)- -

Every law student and social scientist knows that the rehabilitative and deterrent functions of judicial punishment are importance. But equally important, and perhaps of greater importance, is the need for society's retribution to validate the recognition that an orderly people who have signed on to the social contract and democratic self-government must exercise their right and duty of self protection from predators. It is the latter that governs my personal view that the judicial sentence in this case be carried out. It shows that rehabilitation is possible, and in the proper case, may result in leniency. Here, the deterrent and retributive aspects are properly served. The governor should reject the pleas that, although not unreasonable in the proper case, are not applicable in this case.

20 posted on 11/27/2005 9:06:12 AM PST by middie
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To: keat

Did anyone notice the A.N.S.W.E.R. signs in the pro-Tookie croud?


21 posted on 11/27/2005 9:06:28 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: keat
He's valuable alright... when he's finally six feet under. Where murderers can make their final contribution to society's well-being.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

23 posted on 11/27/2005 9:09:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: keat

He should not be the man he is today, whatever that is. He should have been dead 20 years ago.


24 posted on 11/27/2005 9:11:08 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: DoughtyOne

I sure did..!


25 posted on 11/27/2005 9:11:14 AM PST by ErnBatavia (403-3)
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To: EagleUSA
If Ms. Grant is ever exposed to a cold-blooded killer, she'll wonder how she was so naive. Then I expect nothing else from stuck-on-stupid liberals.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

26 posted on 11/27/2005 9:12:06 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: keat
The "Death Sentence" in Kalifornia is just a joke anyway, so who cares. He will live at least another 20 years and maybe never be put to death in that state. Much ado about nothing.
27 posted on 11/27/2005 9:17:57 AM PST by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: keat
"He's valuable to our community," said Vintrica Grant

Tell that to the famlies of the 4 people he murdered.

28 posted on 11/27/2005 9:54:53 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Brilliant

I know most of you can't say it so I will..."Tookie looks like a Black Bigfoot," I pray you have a heart stopping moment Tookie!


29 posted on 11/27/2005 9:57:28 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: keat
They don't see the man he's become today

Great, he's turned his life around. Now, he can get into heaven....he just won't get into the community.

30 posted on 11/27/2005 9:59:53 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: doug from upland
Image hosted by Photobucket.com if it weren't for the wretched justice system out there he wouldn't be alive to be the man he is today, whatever that is.
31 posted on 11/27/2005 10:42:34 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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