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Saddam Planned Pre-war Attacks on U.S.!!!
The Washington Post ^ | June 19, 2004 | Walter Pincus

Posted on 11/27/2005 1:47:48 PM PST by redvers llewellyn

WHY HAS THIS DAMNING REVELATION BEEN FORGOTTEN? _________________________________________________________

Russia Warned U.S. About Iraq, Putin Says

By Walter Pincus Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, June 19, 2004; Page A11

Russian President Vladimir Putin said yesterday that his intelligence service had warned the Bush administration before the U.S. invasion of Iraq that Saddam Hussein's government was planning attacks against U.S. targets both inside and outside the country.

Putin, who opposed Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq, did not go into detail about the information that was forwarded, and said Russia had no evidence that Hussein was involved in any attacks.

"After Sept. 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, the Russian special services, the intelligence service, received information that officials from Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist attacks in the United States and outside it against the U.S. military and other interests," Putin said, according to RIA Novosti, the Russian news agency. "American President George Bush had an opportunity to personally thank the head of one of the Russian special services for this information, which he regarded as very important," the Russian president told an interviewer while in Astana, capital of Kazakhstan.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; cialeak; iraq; jihadinamerica; johndoe2; okcbombing; pincus; prequel; putin; saddam
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1 posted on 11/27/2005 1:47:49 PM PST by redvers llewellyn
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To: redvers llewellyn

Not good news for the Dims at all.


2 posted on 11/27/2005 1:49:29 PM PST by Brian328i
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To: redvers llewellyn

I remember this story well. It made the last page of my local paper, in the bottom right corner. The major media barely mentioned it. Hmm, I wonder why.


3 posted on 11/27/2005 1:50:33 PM PST by VOR78
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To: redvers llewellyn
WHY HAS THIS DAMNING REVELATION BEEN FORGOTTEN?

Doesn't fit agenda?

4 posted on 11/27/2005 1:51:10 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Brian328i

Apparently not. Its old news. Happened last year. The media all but ignored it.


5 posted on 11/27/2005 1:51:15 PM PST by VOR78
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To: redvers llewellyn

Putin lied. People died.


6 posted on 11/27/2005 1:51:27 PM PST by Zechariah11 (George Allen, betrayest thou the Commander-in-Chief as soon as he leaves town?)
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To: redvers llewellyn

The headline maybe true, but I think Putie would love to have the USA enter their own Soviet version of the Afghanistan war, whether or not he had intelligence. Sometime information is really misinformation.


7 posted on 11/27/2005 1:53:13 PM PST by LA Conservative (Read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam by Robert Spencer)
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To: redvers llewellyn

Putin manipulated this pre war intelligence


8 posted on 11/27/2005 1:53:54 PM PST by woofie (Hating GW Bush Never Fed a Hungry Child)
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To: redvers llewellyn

They will try to bury it.


9 posted on 11/27/2005 1:54:37 PM PST by TASMANIANRED ("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets." Sgt Clay.)
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To: redvers llewellyn
Russian President Vladimir Putin said yesterday that his intelligence service had warned the Bush administration before the U.S. invasion of Iraq that Saddam Hussein's government was planning attacks against U.S. targets both inside and outside the country.

Yes, I always rely on warnings issued by ex-Colonels of the KGB. Yesiree, I certainly do.

10 posted on 11/27/2005 1:54:41 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: redvers llewellyn
Don't look for consistency among the left.

Preemptive strikes against Iraq are evil, unless they are done by Bill Clinton in retaliation for an assassination plot against Bush41 (that never came about).

11 posted on 11/27/2005 1:55:30 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: ncountylee

Hannity mentioned this story a few times on his radio show, but it didn't fit into the MSM's political agenda and therefore the MSM ignored the story. Curiously, the MSM also wonders why most of the public considers them to be biased.


12 posted on 11/27/2005 1:55:46 PM PST by defenderSD (What do Bush, Blair, Aznar, and Berlusconi know about Saddam's regime that Democrats don't know?)
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To: VOR78

I understand why the MSM would try to ignore it, but why wouldn't the Conservatives trumpet it? Why wouldn't the Administration claim "smoking gun?"


13 posted on 11/27/2005 1:56:34 PM PST by redvers llewellyn
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To: redvers llewellyn

How quickly they forget. Isn't it Pinkus who is running all over screaming about there being no WMDs?


14 posted on 11/27/2005 1:57:04 PM PST by McGavin999 (Reporters write the truth, Journalists write stories.)
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To: Brian328i

The dimwits will dismiss it. Remember, if reality does not fit their agendas, they simply re-invent it.


15 posted on 11/27/2005 1:57:07 PM PST by stm
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To: Archangelsk
"Yes, I always rely on warnings issued by ex-Colonels of the KGB. Yesiree, I certainly do."

That's a good point. While I don't think Putin was trying to set us up in this case, Putin's warnings were just one piece of information that would have to be analyzed along with all the other intelligence before any action was taken by the President.

16 posted on 11/27/2005 1:59:18 PM PST by defenderSD (What do Bush, Blair, Aznar, and Berlusconi know about Saddam's regime that Democrats don't know?)
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To: redvers llewellyn

Bump - Hey Republican leaders, get out in front with this after the recess!


17 posted on 11/27/2005 1:59:41 PM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: redvers llewellyn

That I don't know. It did create quite a stir on this site when it happened, but its a story that, for the most part, faded away quickly.


18 posted on 11/27/2005 2:00:41 PM PST by VOR78
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To: redvers llewellyn

The Bush Admin was wise not to call this a "smoking gun", because the President can't make a decision about war based on intelligence from only one source. If we had two or three other countries going public with the same information, including a NATO ally, then Bush could push this harder. We may have had similar intelligence from other countries that was not made public. It's interesting that Putin made a public statement about this information.


19 posted on 11/27/2005 2:02:42 PM PST by defenderSD (What do Bush, Blair, Aznar, and Berlusconi know about Saddam's regime that Democrats don't know?)
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To: defenderSD

Putin was in bed with the Iraqis. He, unlike us, had real spies on the ground there. We had Cahlabi and company. I wouldn't dismiss it so lightly.


20 posted on 11/27/2005 2:04:26 PM PST by redvers llewellyn
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To: redvers llewellyn
Bump to the top.
21 posted on 11/27/2005 2:04:52 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: ncountylee

"WHY HAS THIS DAMNING REVELATION BEEN FORGOTTEN? "

Yep, Exactly, it dosnt fit their anti-american template.


22 posted on 11/27/2005 2:05:32 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: redvers llewellyn
WHY HAS THIS DAMNING REVELATION BEEN FORGOTTEN?

Because the Dims threw it down the Memory Hole.

23 posted on 11/27/2005 2:06:57 PM PST by Rocko (this post kills fascists...and communists)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Just registered with this site. Don't know what "bump" means.


24 posted on 11/27/2005 2:08:42 PM PST by redvers llewellyn
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To: redvers llewellyn

I'm not dismissing it at all. It's probably accurate intelligence. I'm saying that the President can't make this kind of decision based on only one source, and politically it would look unwise to claim that intelligence from one source is a "smoking gun."


25 posted on 11/27/2005 2:09:35 PM PST by defenderSD (What do Bush, Blair, Aznar, and Berlusconi know about Saddam's regime that Democrats don't know?)
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To: redvers llewellyn

Bump means you're bumping this thread to the top of the message display in the main forum window. After anyone posts a reply the thread goes to the top of the list.


26 posted on 11/27/2005 2:10:49 PM PST by defenderSD (What do Bush, Blair, Aznar, and Berlusconi know about Saddam's regime that Democrats don't know?)
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To: defenderSD

Thanks.


27 posted on 11/27/2005 2:11:58 PM PST by redvers llewellyn
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To: redvers llewellyn
Russian President Vladimir Putin said yesterday that his intelligence service had warned the Bush administration before the U.S. invasion of Iraq that Saddam Hussein's government was planning attacks against U.S. targets both inside and outside the country.

Putin, who opposed Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq, did not go into detail about the information that was forwarded, and said Russia had no evidence that Hussein was involved in any attacks.

Hah? Sodom's GOVERNMENT was planning the attacks but there's no evidence Sodom himself was involved???

WTH? Ohhhhhhh....I see what the Washington Post is saying. Sodom himself wasn't going to fly any of the airplanes into any of our skyscrapers or he wasn't going to personally drive a bomb-laden truck onto the Golden Gate Bridge or anything like that.

The Post is pathetic. Such length it will go to to exonerate Sodom Who's Insane.

28 posted on 11/27/2005 2:14:51 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: redvers llewellyn

Ha. It doesn't fit the agenda of the left - therefore, it must be supressed by the press and the Dems.


29 posted on 11/27/2005 2:16:24 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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I'm with you....sounds like Putie is a little confused here at keeping his story
straight. Doesn't sound like reliable info to me. First he says that Saddam's government is planning these invasions of U.S., and U.S. targetsoutside this country, and yet he's against us going to war in Iraq? Seems like he is talking out of both sides of his mouth.

Me thinks...something is fishy!! Whew~~~~


30 posted on 11/27/2005 2:17:36 PM PST by SoldiersPrayingMom ("And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" John 8:32)
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To: redvers llewellyn
That's just Pincus and he can't even seem to remember what he had for breakfast.
31 posted on 11/27/2005 2:17:46 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Texas Eagle

I agree. I'll tell you what else is pathetic--how the once Democrap controlled Congress gutted the CIA. WE should have had agents on the ground in Iraq to back all this intelligence up.


32 posted on 11/27/2005 2:19:53 PM PST by redvers llewellyn
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To: Brian328i

Why, now, is Walter PINCUS remembering this?


33 posted on 11/27/2005 2:19:59 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: redvers llewellyn

The RATS have not only gutted the CIA, they've infiltrated it with anti-American sacks of crap like Valerie Plame.


34 posted on 11/27/2005 2:21:47 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: defenderSD
"it didn't fit into the MSM's political agenda and therefore the MSM ignored the story."

Yep. just as the media thoroughly explored possible economic motives for the war (Halliburton, oil, etc) but NEVER explored the economic motives of France and other countries for OPPOSING the war. It just never entered their mental universe to even ask those questions.
35 posted on 11/27/2005 2:22:36 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: redvers llewellyn

This shouldn't be a surprise. BTW it took 60 years to find out that Hitler had planned attacks against New York.


36 posted on 11/27/2005 2:22:49 PM PST by WalterSkinner
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To: Mike Darancette

Pincus and Mitchell and Woodward and Russert and Wilson can't get their facts straight, can't put together a consistent story line, and that's just fine with Fitz. Their contradictions and lies and memeory lapses are just fine, but Libby is a criminal for doing the same. It makes me sick.


37 posted on 11/27/2005 2:25:53 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Brian328i

Come on guys, none of this stuff is paid attention to by the Dhemmicrats!


38 posted on 11/27/2005 2:28:26 PM PST by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Good point. Think about it. Woodward claims he told Pincus about Plame. Pincus says it's not true--he would have remembered something so important. Sounds a lot like Libby/Russert, doesn't it? Is Fitzgerald going to indict Woodward for lying to the GJ? Fits is shameless, indeed!!


39 posted on 11/27/2005 2:33:40 PM PST by redvers llewellyn
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To: redvers llewellyn

I think Libby's legal team needs to be a bit Clintonite in preparing the defense. They need to point out all these contradictions and inconsistencies in all these other players, and situate Libby's inconsistencies within the same context, and make it look like everyone else is getting away with the same thing that Libby is charged with. They need to undermine the moral basis of the prosecution.


40 posted on 11/27/2005 2:45:20 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: redvers llewellyn

bttt


41 posted on 11/27/2005 2:46:50 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: redvers llewellyn

What??

This should be front page news somewhere. Anywhere!


42 posted on 11/27/2005 2:47:15 PM PST by pollyannaish
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Oops. Note to self: Remember to at least GLANCE at the date.

Sheesh.
43 posted on 11/27/2005 2:48:13 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: redvers llewellyn

It has been an incredible failure of this administration to effectively make the case for doing the right thing. The case has been there.


44 posted on 11/27/2005 2:48:47 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: redvers llewellyn
The major media barely mentioned it. Hmm, I wonder why.

Bottom line folks ... if the Bushies can't get this sort of info out they aren't playing in the big league. There are ways to circumvent the liberal mainstream media ... if this report is true.

45 posted on 11/27/2005 2:51:06 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: redvers llewellyn

Bump, BTTT, means to reply to a thread for the purpose of keeping it current on the screen. This works for only a very short time since everything scrolls by rapidly.


46 posted on 11/27/2005 2:55:27 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale
"Bump, BTTT, means to reply to a thread for the purpose of keeping it current on the screen. This works for only a very short time since everything scrolls by rapidly."

I've always wondered about that. Does something remain at the top of the queue simply because it gets a lot of hits? It's never seemed that way to me. It seems that topics move down the list as they are supplanted by new posts, and that this has nothing to do with how many hits a post receives.
47 posted on 11/27/2005 3:03:19 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

It seems pointless to bump since the volume of traffic is so large. It might be a way of bookmarking a thread for oneself, or just saying 'hey'. The ping is more useful since a group with known or suspected interests can be called to a thread long after it has scrolled into the bit bucket.


48 posted on 11/27/2005 3:09:08 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: redvers llewellyn
<<>> Because it was buried on Page 11.... Page 1 would have cut the MooreOns off at the knees in an election summer, and that would have cost a LOT of people a BUNCH of money and ratings.... And you KNOW we can't have THAT! It's why they had the fake "Race" with Edwards, Sharpton and Kerry "Debating" all the time...
49 posted on 11/27/2005 3:20:07 PM PST by tcrlaf
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To: Rocko
WHY HAS THIS DAMNING REVELATION BEEN FORGOTTEN? Because the Dims threw it down the Memory Hole.

1984 Again

50 posted on 11/27/2005 4:53:21 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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