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Iran's students protest (photos included)
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Posted on 11/27/2005 2:12:07 PM PST by F14 Pilot



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: democracy; freedom; iran; protest; students; university; young
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1 posted on 11/27/2005 2:12:08 PM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: DoctorZIn; McGavin999; freedom44; nuconvert; sionnsar; AdmSmith; parisa; onyx; Pro-Bush; Valin; ...

new rounds of protests in Tehran, Iran!


2 posted on 11/27/2005 2:12:57 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: All

The students protest against the new rounds of suppression in the Universities around the county!


3 posted on 11/27/2005 2:14:19 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Didn't our President offer help to peoples everywhere who wanted F-R-E-E-D-O-M?


4 posted on 11/27/2005 2:17:51 PM PST by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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To: F14 Pilot

Are these protests against the government or simply the University (or are they one in the same thing?)?


5 posted on 11/27/2005 2:21:36 PM PST by asp1
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To: asp1

Against the government!


6 posted on 11/27/2005 2:30:11 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: asp1

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=4606


7 posted on 11/27/2005 2:39:54 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
Ahmadinejad’s record is typical of the men chosen by Khamenei’s entourage to put a new face on the clerical elite’s ultra-conservative identity. But beyond the shallow façade, few doubt that the Islamic Republic under its new President will move with greater speed and determination along the path of radical policies that include more human rights abuses, continuing sponsorship of terrorism, and the drive to obtain nuclear weapons.
8 posted on 11/27/2005 2:46:33 PM PST by radar101
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To: F14 Pilot
Thank you for the link to the article. I applaud their courage and pray for their safety. :0)
9 posted on 11/27/2005 2:47:06 PM PST by asp1
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To: F14 Pilot

bttt!

May Iran belong to them soon!


10 posted on 11/27/2005 2:50:12 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: F14 Pilot

Lot of people wearing glasses. In the Iraq pictures, there are few. I doubt the Iraqis have better eyes or are wearing contacts.


11 posted on 11/27/2005 2:54:37 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

That's what all that radioactivity does for ya!


12 posted on 11/27/2005 2:56:41 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Right Wing Assault

LMAO!

What do you mean?!


13 posted on 11/27/2005 2:57:19 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Calpernia

Yes, pray for their safety. Hopefully Iran will belong to them soon.

Why isn't this on TV?


14 posted on 11/27/2005 3:01:25 PM PST by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: F14 Pilot

Just an observation.


15 posted on 11/27/2005 3:13:45 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: girlangler

john murtha and Iraq plans are more important than bunch of mideastern students shouting for more freedom /sarcasm off>


16 posted on 11/27/2005 3:15:26 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
For everyone going all dewy-eyed over these bogus "innocent student demonstrators", please remember this...

An anti-American demonstration in Tehran, November 1980.

17 posted on 11/27/2005 3:15:42 PM PST by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: 6323cd

it is history by now!

That generation is either dead or now is an opposition to the current government!


18 posted on 11/27/2005 3:23:59 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
That generation is dead? 20-year-old students then would be only 45 years old now. And recalling the virulent hatred of the Iranian populace to the United States, I have a hard time believing that there is much opposition except from the usual disaffected student contingent, who seem to exist only to protest whatever or whomever is in charge at any given moment.

Iranian students in the U.S. demonstrate near the White House during Mohammad Reza Shah's official visit to the U.S. in November 1977.

19 posted on 11/27/2005 3:34:20 PM PST by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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Comment #20 Removed by Moderator

To: Pan_Yans Wife; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; Grampa Dave; PhiKapMom; McGavin999; Hinoki Cypress; ...
Here are my reports on the protest:

http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com/2005/11/statement-regarding-installment-of.html

http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com/2005/11/tehran-university-students-protest-and.html
21 posted on 11/27/2005 3:39:05 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

a cleric who does not even have a university education, has been chosen by the Ministry of education

Well I don't see what the problem is.
/sarcasm


22 posted on 11/27/2005 4:15:20 PM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: girlangler
Because the 'Carter and Co' support the dictator.

The news is monopolized by bad eliments:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320747/posts
George Soros, Media Connections - Bump List

This is a War on Terror because these eliments embedded our land, Europe, Mid East and Asia. Can't name a country we are at war with because it is within.

Here is Soros ties to Iran:

About Ahmed Huber:

Among the conclave’s key backers was Ahmed Huber, a Swiss-German convert to Islam who traveled back and forth to Beirut to promote the event. This is the same Huber who is a primary supporter of the NPD, the German neo-Nazi party that sent 4,000 of its members marching through Berlin’s historic Jewish neighborhood on a recent Sabbath.

It takes money, clout and coordination to get 4,000 people to march anywhere, and clearly, people like Huber have got all three. And his contacts stretch beyond Europe and the Middle East. In a recent televised interview, Huber spoke of his many lectures in the United States and boasted that because of his strong ties to American Islamic groups, he was given advance warning that something big was going to happen here -- well before 9/11.

Against a wall filled with pictures of his heroes -- the Ayatollah Khomeini and Hitler, among others -- Huber denies that his bank has helped al Qaida, even as he gloats about his cohorts in the U.S. assuring him, We will bring down the power of the Israel lobby.

Alias: Achmed Albert Friedrich Armand Huber

Linked to:

Nada Management Organization - the Nada Management Organization was blocked on suspicion that the firm had possible links to the September 11 attacks. No details were given about the amounts frozen or the banks concerned. The move comes after the United States asked Switzerland, Italy, Liechtenstein and the Bahamas to block all assets belonging to the Nada Management Organization, which was previously known as al-Taqwa. Two of the company’s bosses were detained by police for questioning in Lugano on Wednesday, as part of a coordinated operation by Switzerland, Italy and Liechtenstein.

Youssef Mustafa Nada and Ali Ghaleb Himmat were taken into custody after Italian police raided their homes on Wednesday in Campione D’Italia, a tiny Italian enclave in Switzerland, surrounded by canton Ticino. They were later released. Another Nada official, Ahmed Huber, was questioned about al-Taqwa’s activities by Swiss officials in Bern before being released. The Swiss federal prosecutor, Valentin Roschacher, said the investigation was likely to take several months. “We now have enough information to open an inquiry. We seized a lot of documentation on Wednesday, some of which is in Arabic, and it will take a long time to follow the paper trail.”

The US authorities say al-Taqwa is one of several informal cash exchanges - known as “hawalas” - which funnel millions of dollars to terrorists outside the traditional banking system.

Investigators suspect that hawalas also help terrorists acquire material and supplies by acting as front organisations. They believe bin Laden has made use of them to acquire and distribute funds.

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=900002

Nada Management, founded in 1987 under the name al-Taqwa, is one of the world’s largest financial institutions dedicated to Muslim clients and Islamic business activities. One elemental service these groups provide is the hawala exchange system, by which small amounts of money - usually less than $1,000 - are transferred to other hawala agencies around the world. A sum of money or valuable can be brought to a hawala agency in Europe, for example, where a phone call to a network office in the Middle East or Asia will free up a corresponding amount at the desired destination.

The transaction is almost immediate, based entirely on trust and requires no certification that might leave a paper trail. Western antiterror experts suspect such unregulated transactions allow millions of dollars to be funneled to Islamist groups engaged in terror.

Also Linked to:

Relationships

Primary Entity Type Related Entity Name Start Date End Date
Iran Linked to Khobar Towers Bombing    
Saif al-Adel Resided in Iran    
Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi Resided in Iran    
Saad bin Laden Linked to Iran    
Islamic Great Eastern Raider's Front Linked to Iran    
Hani Al-Sayegh Linked to Iran    
Ahmed Huber Linked to Iran    
Habip Aktas Linked to Iran    
Yusuf Polat Linked to Iran    
Fevzi Yitiz Linked to Iran    
Muhammad Khalid Traveled from Iran    
ASA Diam Place a phone call to Iran 1/15/2001 1/15/2001


23 posted on 11/27/2005 4:17:44 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: i_dont_chat
SOTU Address, February 2, 2005:

"And to the Iranian people, I say tonight: As you stand for your own liberty, America stands with you." -- President George W. Bush
24 posted on 11/27/2005 4:25:08 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: 6323cd

Those protestors were MEK members

A marxist islamist group which is hated by majority of Iranians inside and outside of Iran

btw, whats your point?!


25 posted on 11/27/2005 4:30:52 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: 6323cd

"bogus "innocent student demonstrators","

Want to prove that accusation?

And then explain why "bogus "innocent student demonstrators", would be demonstrating against the gov't." You think the gov't is staging demonstrations against itself?


26 posted on 11/27/2005 5:06:31 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: F14 Pilot; billhilly; Calpernia

Apparently near revolutions don't make the evening news anymore. I'm dumbfounded.

The media completely ignored the Iranian student protests back, what, a year or two ago? Tens of thousands of protesters doesn't make news.

Thanks Calpernia, for the links. They are bookmarked.Also, I'm going to check out the boggers posted.

President Bush has a plan for the Middle East, and I think it is brilliant.


27 posted on 11/27/2005 5:06:46 PM PST by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: girlangler

The media is part of the war. ;)

We all have a vested interest in the students taking back Iran. We are all in this war together.

They are not alone.


28 posted on 11/27/2005 5:12:01 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DoctorZIn

Wow. That raises hell for us dial up users.


29 posted on 11/27/2005 5:16:41 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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To: 6323cd

Apparently you don't read much. 70% of the population in Iran is under the age of 30. They are overwhelmingly pro-American. You find a middle east specialist who doesn't agree with that and get back to us.

And btw - your recollection of "the virulent hatred of the Iranian populace to the United States" comes from people like Ted Koppel who only told you about the Iranians who were at the staged rallies. He never mentioned the wishes and feelings of the MILLIONS of Iranians who WEREN'T at the rallies. That's how the media manipulated your opinions (and most Americans') about Iranians. Just like they're manipulating Americans' feelings about Pres. Bush and the war in Iraq.


30 posted on 11/27/2005 5:16:56 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Calpernia

The students need the backing of merchants, transportation personnel and others to overthrow the current government. It also requires a huge financial backing along with some blood letting.


31 posted on 11/27/2005 5:17:26 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude

They are not alone. They will win.


32 posted on 11/27/2005 5:19:30 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DoctorZIn; nuconvert; parisa; MLedeen; markedmannerf
more pics


33 posted on 11/27/2005 5:22:43 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: billhilly

go to this link for more pics

http://www.advarnews.com/Gallery/339.aspx#end


34 posted on 11/27/2005 5:23:54 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

This is one of the biggest crowds I've seen in while.
Thanks for the pics


35 posted on 11/27/2005 5:24:24 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Calpernia; Cindy; All

i added more photos


36 posted on 11/27/2005 5:25:01 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: nuconvert

It wasn't just in Tehran. I am trying hard to find more images


37 posted on 11/27/2005 5:25:58 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
A toast, to the next Iraq!


38 posted on 11/27/2005 5:32:50 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Still it is not enough.


39 posted on 11/27/2005 5:33:13 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude
Patience.
40 posted on 11/27/2005 5:34:01 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: NY Attitude

You're right. They need help.


41 posted on 11/27/2005 5:36:39 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

I certainly hope that they get it and get it soon. For those interested they should read a post by F 14 Pilot regarding the the last Thanksgiving celebrated in Iran by the Americans.


42 posted on 11/27/2005 5:39:48 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude

Thanksgiving Memories.......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1528701/posts


43 posted on 11/27/2005 5:42:23 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

Thanks.


44 posted on 11/27/2005 5:52:56 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: F14 Pilot

As one who vowed never again to be taken in by the myth of "Iranian Moderates" (post-Iran/Contra), I would say that these students must be protesting the lack of nuclear weapons in their country. I will believe otherwise when the students in question, and other like-minded Iranians, overthrow the Theocracy in Iran, with no assistance from us.


45 posted on 11/27/2005 8:32:22 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: 6323cd; F14 Pilot
6323cd: IMAGE DESCRIPTION - Iranian students in the U.S. demonstrate near the White House during Mohammad Reza Shah's official visit to the U.S. in November 1977.

F14: Those protestors were MEK members - A Marxist Islamist group which is hated by majority of Iranians inside and outside of Iran: btw, what’s your point?!

humint: 6323cd, I’d like to make clear that F14 is mistaking in this case, the protesters in your picture are not members of the MEK. To your point, back in 1977, the geopolitical environment was very different than it is today. The sentiments of 77 are not particularly relevant now. Those sentiments were popular, “bottom up” and originated with U.S. support for the Shah. The sentiments of 77 have subsided for a number of reasons that include but are not limited to, contemporary demographics combined with the fact that these days, anti-Americanism is officially enforced in a “top down” fashion.

Worker’s strikes, ethnic unrest, newspaper closings, blogger arrests and student’s protests are measurements of internal restiveness. Each are well documented by the wire services however these stories rarely make the MSM. Massive demonstrations [between 5,000 to 25,000 Iranian expatriates] against the Iranian regime have occurred outside of Iran in Brussels, Berlin, Paris, Washington DC, New York and Los Angeles in the last five years. The scope of unrest goes far beyond Iranian students whom you imply will protest anything and everything. Recall that these are students living under dictatorship and have every reason to be in the streets demanding change.

46 posted on 11/27/2005 8:39:32 PM PST by humint ({@}) Think about all the things you don't know you don't know ({@})
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To: 6323cd

Those in your photo from 1980 are Dast-eh Tude-ha, marxist extremists funded by the Soviets! No way do these people represent mainstream Iran. BTW, neither does the government!


47 posted on 11/27/2005 9:00:19 PM PST by LibreOuMort ("...But as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry)
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To: humint

MEK speaker is back!


48 posted on 11/27/2005 9:54:22 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: pawdoggie

u r dead wrong!

lol


49 posted on 11/27/2005 9:58:43 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
MEK speaker is back!

F14, I do not speak for the MEK and have not gone anywhere. I've been posting about other topics but am well aware of the history of Iran and her political groups. If you'd like, we could converse about other Iranian groups but the only one you're interested in is the MEK. You brought the MEK topic up again and if you recall in one of our earlier conversations, I mentioned that when you're wrong about something I promised to let you know you're wrong, as a friend of course. It's clear from your posts that you have a personal and particularly emotional understanding of Iran's history. In this case you’re wrong and I think it is important to correct the record.

But before you start to slander again, please know that I'm trying to be particularly civil... note that I didn't comment earlier on how you so casually announced the opinions of the majority of Iranians both inside and outside Iran. Apparently you don't know that you do not believe the Iranian people should be democratically represented, only spoken for. I’m curious as to where and how you attained the special ability to know what the majority of Iranians want and don't want. Were you born with it or did you train really hard? I thought only one man had the power to dictate what the Iranian people want and don’t want, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenie. If you’re him… WOW! I never would have imagined a fascist dictator could appreciate a forum like FR!

50 posted on 11/27/2005 10:57:34 PM PST by humint ({@}) Think about all the things you don't know you don't know ({@})
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