Skip to comments.Left wingers fight it out in Madison!1!!
Posted on 11/27/2005 5:33:39 PM PST by Thunder90
Disciplinary Hearing Launched Against Anti-war Group The University of Wisconsin-Madison has launched a disciplinary investigation against the UW anti-war group, Stop the War, due to a complaint filed in relation to our groups demonstration against the Army ROTC on Nov. 2. If the Dean of Students determines that members of Stop the War violated University Codes, there will be a disciplinary hearing which could result in probation, suspension or expulsion for Stop the War members.
We are asking everyone who believes in the freedom to protest to contact the administration and urge them to cease punitive measures against Stop the War.
See below for more information on the protest of Nov. 2.
Yolanda Garza, Assistant Dean of Students and the Investigating Officer in the complaint (608) 263-5700 firstname.lastname@example.org
Lori Berquam, Interim Dean of Students (608) 263-5702, email@example.com
John Wiley, Chancellor (608) 262-9946 firstname.lastname@example.org
The complaint alleges Stop the War jeopardized the safety of several individuals of the Military Science Department. It is alleged that attempts were made by your membership to gain entry to the building by pounding on doors and windows and attempts to destroy university property.
These charges are absurd.
- Stop the War was unable to even approach any member of the Military Science department. The doors of the building were locked, and no member came in or out.
-Although there were students knocking on the door, none of them were members of Stop the War. There was a large contingent of local high school students there, who are unaffiliated with Stop the War, who did most of the pounding on doors.
-No member of Stop the War made any attempt to damage university property.
The facts are these:
-Stop the War called a demonstration against the war in Iraq, military recruitment and ROTC on Nov. 2. After a rally attended by about 200 people, we marched around campus, eventually arriving at the Army ROTC building with about 100 people. The vast majority of these people were not Stop the War members or had ever been to a Stop the War meeting.
-The protestors chanted slogans, held signs and marched around the building. A few spoke through a bullhorn. Some people, none of them Stop the War members, knocked on the door.
-The only contact anyone had with members of the Military Science department was spotting them through a window. With the exception of the UW Police detaining a 14 year old high school student for throwing a penny at a window, there was no physical confrontation of any kind.
-Although the letter says that charges could be brought against you and your leadership members, I am the only member who has received a letter or been named. The only explanation I can think of for this, is that I am the primary contact person on our student organization registration form. In other words, I am being singled out because I happened to be the one who filled out some paperwork a couple of months ago.
-Furthermore, although this complaint was filed on the day of the protest, Nov. 2. I did not receive notice until Nov. 22. The University is giving me ten days to respond, but they waited three weeks to send me this e-mail at 3:30pm the day before the four day Thanksgiving break.
We ask that everyone who believes in the right to free speech contact the people listed above, and tell them to cease all punitive measures against Stop the War and its individual members.
solidarity, Paul Pryse UW Stop the War
My AAR of the counterprotest is here.
Darn. Thought this was a hockey thread.
Poor bastard. I hope they run him off campus.
It sounds mildly threatening (a 100 person mob at your door can be threatening) but otherwise non-violent.
I think groups have every right to protest, even energetically as long as it remains peaceful. I'd like to see what the "guidelines" are and how they were alleged to have been broken.
Let's hope these "students" are expelled.
I suggest we provide them with automatic weapons so they can really fight, instead of that hissy fit, sweater snagging, hair pulling, shouting, slapping crap that they normally do.
If high schoolers were there, were they there in support of "Stop the War"? If so, how are they identified and warrented to not be members of "Stop the War".
It seems a weak arguement that the offenses were committed by non-members who just happened to be in their midst. True protestors would self identify and take their punishment bravely.
As far as I can piece together, the group recruited some young high-school kids (judging from the mention of the 14-year-old) to do most of the actual hell-raising, as they figured the kids would not be subject to as many civil and criminal penalties as adult members of the group
Madison is mid-america Commie central.. don't count on it..
Socialist don't play well with other ideologys..
Yup. I was amused by:
There was a large contingent of local high school students there, who are unaffiliated with Stop the War, who did most of the pounding on doors.
It was the high schoolers! Honest!
Some people, none of them Stop the War members, knocked on the door.
If you invited them on campus your responsible for their behavior.
Furthermore, although this complaint was filed on the day of the protest, Nov. 2. I did not receive notice until Nov. 22. The University is giving me ten days to respond, but they waited three weeks to send me this e-mail at 3:30pm the day before the four day Thanksgiving break
The University is required to address infractions in a timely manner and violators are given a 10 day window to appeal. It was this way 20 years ago and is the same today. Less than 3 weeks to review a complaint and address the violator is record time for UW. The only time you will see quicker action is if criminal charges have been filed.
Wow,, this is a perfect textbook case.
The first thing a captured terrorist leader will claim is ignorance of his follower's activities. Then deny any involvement.
Unfortuantely the Left has such a poor/distorted grasp of reality that little in this note has any credibility. My bet is some of it is true, but kind of a lot has been left out, which the author will later claim "to be unaware of".
Saddam, Osama, and Fidel would feel right at home in Madison. In fact they would all be running for mayor there if possible.
You Rock partner!
You, betcha! It's always someone else over whom the group in question has no control. I don't buy it.
Put them on double secret probation, then expel them.
Here's the contact for the scumbags: http://www.campusantiwar.net/index.php?option=com_contact&Itemid=3
My copy says freedom of speech, not freedom to protest.
It's nice to see the UW investigating this group, but I'm not holding my breath that anyone gets expelled over this.
Keep an eye on this one for us, would you? And count on these "Stop the War Now" pukes to claim FULL CREDIT for when we start pulling out next year, which is the plan anyway. *Rolleyes*