Posted on 11/28/2005 3:40:35 AM PST by PatrickHenry
Dimensio: No, and this has no bearing on the fact that evolution is not a religion.
Curiosity: Actually, I think it does have a bearing. Religions usually form the basis for moral standards and virtue. That evolution fails to address such questions, therefore, corroborates that it is not a religion.
"Adam was created on the sixth day and died at 930 years old."
Yes, but until he sinned, he was immortal and thus was ageless. The day he sinned is when he began to age.
Yes, I do.
In the lay sense, something is considered proven when it has enough supporting evidence to remove reasonable doubt. In this lay sense, I think it's fair to say evolution has been proven. We can't say it we know it is true with absolute certainty, but there is no reasonable doubt about it.
Got me in what way? Scientists have disagreements. Welcome to the real world.
The argument that "evolution is a religion" in this case was actually more that evolution is a "belief" -- because it was not sufficiently supported by evidence to be otherwise. Thus, there really is no corroboration, only misunderstanding. However, I agree with most of what you've said up to now. (Don't mind me, just observing...)
But making a blanket statement about the honesty of creationists based on the actions of a few is not right. Just because some might still be circulating that story doesn't mean that all are liars. I, for one, never heard of that account before. Even if I did, why should I assume that the person telling me it is lying? That is no way to go through life; suspecting that everything you hear is a lie.
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Then why are you guys on a CURSADE against Christian IDer's and other C types?
Maybe not; but it can sure put a guilt trip on financially blessed Christians by emphasising Matt 25!
Not for me anymore. Those people aren't really poor. I lved a couple doors from a Christian woman who used to work for Social Services and we were discussing this very issue one day. She told me of some of the things she had seen and then said something that I'll always remember. That is "These people aren't poor!" And you know, she's right. The three houses down the street from us were all rental propety and the welfare folks would come and go on a regular two year cycle. They were all the same. They had drugs, booze, cigarettes, pets, take out meals, computers, TV's, computer games, cars, bikes, pets, make-up, jewelry,.... They are not really poor. I started doing my helping the poor by giving things to families I knew that were self employed with 4-5 kids and were scraping to get by. The things I gave to the *poor* families on welfare ended up thrown out or laying in the mud, literally. If I hadn't lived seeing it for so many years, I'd probably believe they were poor, too. Not any more. Don't let it put you on a guilt trip. Just be wise in your giving.
It is speaking of spiritual death, not physical death.
If it were physical death, the God would be a liar, for Adam did not physically die on the day he ate the forbidden fruit.
Also, if there were no physical death prior to the fall, what was the purpose of the tree of life?
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You've been reduced to blabbering from lack of sleep I'd imagine. That event symbolizes spiritual birth. Further, think "mortality" instead of "death" (that is the second time you slipped semantically). Finally, the third point/question you make lacks clarity. I'm a fan of your posts, but you need to remain cogent or go to sleep.
I mean I understand what you said.
You don't think there were any transitional species between ancient apes & modern humans, and you cite H. erectus as human. (Agreeing with Wise, who says in the Flores Man study, "Combined with ... other post-Babel humans (e.g. H. erectus, H. neanderthalensis), H. floresiensis suggests...")
If Homo erectus was simply what the humans at Babel looked like, there should be no doubt at all as to what kind of species they were: Homo sapiens. "Homo sapiens erectus", I guess. But if H. erectus was a transitional species between apes & humans, then you should expect to see disagreement between scholars as to what it was. And lo & behold, you do! The creationist scholars I cited all agree that it couldn't possibly be a transitional. Oh no, can't possibly be that. They just can't agree among themselves (some can't even agree with themselves) exactly what kind of transitional it isn't!)
You see, a literal interpretation of Genesis is completely unsupported by evidence. Period. There is no way around this except to deny reality (which is a good sign of insanity). A more allegorical reading of Genesis, however, does not have this problem, which is why such readings have been embraced by the Roman Catholic church as well as a number of mainline Protestant churches. One need not reject Scripture or its Truth -- one need merely reinterpret it in light of the evidence, which is exactly what the various churches have been doing since the Rennaissance.
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