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GULF EVACUEES ON THEIR OWN
Star-Ledger ^ | Monday, November 28, 2005 | BY RUSSELL BEN-ALI

Posted on 11/28/2005 5:29:01 AM PST by Calpernia

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"As of December 1, if you choose to remain in the hotel, you will be responsible for paying the bill with funds you have in hand, including any funds that FEMA has already provided to you," read the notice from the Federal Emergency Management Agency to the evacuees of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

"What am I supposed to do, go out in the street?" asked Sanders, 65, a former airline customer service representative, as she sat on the edge of a bed in the Comfort Suites Newark room she shares with grandsons Brandon, 3, and Shandon, 2.

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FEMA said it would extended its deadline until Dec. 15 for evacuees to find less expensive housing in hotels in New Jersey and most of the nation. For displaced victims living in 10 southern and western states, the deadline was extended until Jan. 7.

Already, the government has picked up the tab for hurricane evacuees in more than 49,820 hotel rooms around the country. The cost has been estimated at $3 million per day.

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More than 7,000 people fled the Gulf states to New Jersey and are trying to rebuild their lives after the two storms. Most are staying in apartments or with family or friends. FEMA, however, said it is still paying for 57 hotel rooms across the state. The agency could not supply the number of people in those hotel rooms.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: fema; katrina; louisiana; newjersey; nj; nola; refugees; rita
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1 posted on 11/28/2005 5:29:03 AM PST by Calpernia
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To: Calpernia

Well, to be entirely fair, I've been on my own most of my life. I think they've been given a pretty fair start. My only criticism is that maybe FEMA could have given them a little more warning. The cutoff was rather sudden.


2 posted on 11/28/2005 5:30:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (When life gives you lemons, kick it in the shins and take its wallet.)
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To: Lazamataz
I will say, from the articles I've been following, there was no indication up until now that this eviction was coming.
3 posted on 11/28/2005 5:31:43 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
""What am I supposed to do, go out in the street?" "

No, the government will take care of you and the children for the rest of your lives.

/s

4 posted on 11/28/2005 5:31:52 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Calpernia
I do criticize that.

But really, how long are these people going to be in hotels? I mean, once I hit town I would be pounding pavement looking for work.

5 posted on 11/28/2005 5:33:40 AM PST by Lazamataz (When life gives you lemons, kick it in the shins and take its wallet.)
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To: Lazamataz

I would too. But these people are conditioned to rely on the gov to take care of them. They don't think like us.


6 posted on 11/28/2005 5:36:21 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
...evacuees in more than 49,820 hotel rooms around the country...

I don't know about other cities but the City of Houston, with the highest hotel taxes, really enjoys having some other government agency pay for hotel rooms. The Mayor got all upset when people were told the feds would no longer pay for hotel rooms. Just another rip off.

7 posted on 11/28/2005 5:36:29 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: FreePaul

Do you have any idea if the refugees voted in your local elections?


8 posted on 11/28/2005 5:37:57 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

But I lived in a house in a city 20 feet below sea level - I deserve for the government to take care of myself and family for the rest of our lives...


9 posted on 11/28/2005 5:38:52 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Calpernia

They'll stay in the hotels forever if given the chance. The media just makes the situation worse.


10 posted on 11/28/2005 5:39:31 AM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: Calpernia
I will say, from the articles I've been following, there was no indication up until now that this eviction was coming.

They've been running sob stories on Dallas stations for a couple weeks now about this. Moreover, the freeloaders are distorting both the housing and hotel markets using tax dollars. For example, there are areas near Houston where it is impossible to find a hotel to stay for a business trip. In one instance I know of, even the FEMA people are staying in a partially completed bed and breakfast (missing walls, windows, etc.) because the evacuees have parked their butts in all the hotel rooms and won't look for employment or housing of their own. Classic welfare state mentality.

11 posted on 11/28/2005 5:39:39 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, I'm surprised at you! Your post sure gives me the impression you actually read the article first...

...just another sign of the apocalypse.


12 posted on 11/28/2005 5:39:44 AM PST by pgyanke (A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.)
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To: peyton randolph

I agree. It is a mess.


13 posted on 11/28/2005 5:40:50 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pgyanke
Laz, I'm surprised at you! Your post sure gives me the impression you actually read the article first...

Please, let the legend not be disturbed: I drew my inspiration for my comments from the headline alone. :o)

14 posted on 11/28/2005 5:40:57 AM PST by Lazamataz (When life gives you lemons, kick it in the shins and take its wallet.)
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To: Lazamataz

Whew! You scared me for a second there...


15 posted on 11/28/2005 5:41:37 AM PST by pgyanke (A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.)
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To: Calpernia
The extension to Dec. 15/Jan. 7 was posted on the FEMA website Nov. 22.
16 posted on 11/28/2005 5:42:01 AM PST by NautiNurse (The greatest crime since World War II has been U.S. foreign policy - Ramsey Clark)
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To: Calpernia
What was that song from the 50's?

Get a job!

17 posted on 11/28/2005 5:42:07 AM PST by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: peyton randolph

You said this has been run for a few weeks now? How long have the refugees by you known that a cut off was coming?


18 posted on 11/28/2005 5:42:24 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pgyanke
Whew! You scared me for a second there...

If the article had been about Gulf War evacuees, it would have been more apparant I didn't read the article. :o)

19 posted on 11/28/2005 5:44:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (When life gives you lemons, kick it in the shins and take its wallet.)
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To: Calpernia

When it comes down to it, we are all on our own, disaster or not. Think for yourselves and don't depend on any government to do it for you.


20 posted on 11/28/2005 5:44:32 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Lazamataz
I mean, once I hit town I would be pounding pavement looking for work.

Which is polar opposite of the majority of the people in those hotels.

21 posted on 11/28/2005 5:44:47 AM PST by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: NautiNurse

Ok, Nov. 22 with an extension to Jan. 7 is workable (to me).


22 posted on 11/28/2005 5:45:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Lazamataz
“The cutoff was rather sudden”

Yes, but did they expect it to last forever? How much did the ones complaining do to help themselves in preparation for the cutoff?
23 posted on 11/28/2005 5:46:05 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Calpernia

All of you who have religously paid your child support and you mothers who actually know who fathered your kids should appreciate the irony in this story. Hey, we breed 'em you feed 'em is more than a rap slogan. Its a way of life.


24 posted on 11/28/2005 5:46:10 AM PST by BTCM
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To: Calpernia
"As of December 1, if you choose to remain in the hotel, you will be responsible for paying the bill with funds you have in hand, including any funds that FEMA has already provided to you," read the notice from the Federal Emergency Management Agency to the evacuees of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

But what about the adult movie charges?

25 posted on 11/28/2005 5:47:03 AM PST by neodad (My ex-wife is stuck on stupid.)
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To: R. Scott
Yes, but did they expect it to last forever?

Probably, but it's only right to give adequate warning.

26 posted on 11/28/2005 5:47:26 AM PST by Lazamataz (When life gives you lemons, kick it in the shins and take its wallet.)
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To: Justanobody

Do you have any thoughts as to whether the refugees voted in local elections where they were housed?


27 posted on 11/28/2005 5:47:45 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Lazamataz

How much warning would be “adequate”? I would say 30 days. It had been publicized here for at least that long, but I guess if they ignore the news it might come as a suprise.


28 posted on 11/28/2005 5:50:02 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Calpernia
You said this has been run for a few weeks now? How long have the refugees by you known that a cut off was coming?

Based on the news stories, at least a couple weeks. It started with sob stories about how FEMA wouldn't continue paying apartment rents until the evacuees died of old age. This past week, the focus was morbidly obese single mothers complaining they'd be homeless after FEMA quit paying for their hotel rooms. Looked like their efforts were spent eating rather than job hunting. I suspect that these poster children for the welfare state were living on the government dime in Section 8 housing in New Orleans. Of course, the reporters didn't delve into these issues...the point was to make FEMA and Bush appear heartless.

 

29 posted on 11/28/2005 5:52:05 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Calpernia

I heard they weren't going to pay for hotel rooms but had alternative housing they were trying to get them into. Trailers, apartments. If that is true, what is the problem?


30 posted on 11/28/2005 5:52:06 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Calpernia
Benefits are not infinite, they have to be cut off at some point. Early or late it will always be a shock to those who have learned to depend on them:
Works with unemployment insurance, works with lay offs, and will soon come as a shock to me that retirement does not carry medical insurance I've taken for granted but rarely used for 20 or 30 years.

Gotta happen sometime and the only reasonable response is to use the time you have/had to set up alternatives for yourself.

31 posted on 11/28/2005 5:52:14 AM PST by norton (It's a conspiracy! But don't worry, you can spot them by their hawaiian shirts.)
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To: R. Scott
How much warning would be “adequate”? I would say 30 days.

30-45 days would be fine: Thirty days for getting your rent and deposit money up. Throw in an extra two weeks for finding the right place.

But I got the impression that well into the first week of November they gave notice that funding would be cut by December 1.

32 posted on 11/28/2005 5:52:42 AM PST by Lazamataz (When life gives you lemons, kick it in the shins and take its wallet.)
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To: peyton randolph

Thanks. I will take this news about 'no notice' with a grain of salt then.


33 posted on 11/28/2005 5:53:16 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

where might be mom and dad?


34 posted on 11/28/2005 5:53:40 AM PST by outriderduke
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To: mlc9852

Well, the local news here is indicating they are on their own for alternative housing too. But from what I'm hearing on this thread, I am taking that with a grain of salt now too.


35 posted on 11/28/2005 5:54:13 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Lazamataz
But really, how long are these people going to be in hotels?

Until we stop paying the bill.....

36 posted on 11/28/2005 5:56:19 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: outriderduke

It is possible they could have been victims of the storm. No info was provided. That is just my assumption.


37 posted on 11/28/2005 5:56:36 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: mlc9852
I heard they weren't going to pay for hotel rooms but had alternative housing they were trying to get them into. Trailers, apartments. If that is true, what is the problem?

Maid service.

38 posted on 11/28/2005 5:57:53 AM PST by pgyanke (A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.)
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To: cbkaty
Until we stop paying the bill.....

I've got no problem with that. None whatsoever.

But give them a little lead-time to get on.

39 posted on 11/28/2005 5:58:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (When life gives you lemons, kick it in the shins and take its wallet.)
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To: Calpernia
It's about time. Most of these misfits have never had it better than when the federales took them under their wing and lodged them in hotels and fed them.

With their tellies going full blast all day and no bills to pay, these reprobates have never had it so good.

Look for a job?

Never!

Where are all the daddies?

40 posted on 11/28/2005 5:58:58 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English press one. Only in America!)
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To: Calpernia

gee, i guess they better start thinking. 1st off make them work. nj has a work program for those on wefare. if they arent working then find a state that wants deadbeats. i feel sorry for any 65 year old woman who has to take care of her grandchildren. but theres daycare.and why arent the parents paying her child support? nj has high rent, but if you look you can find cheap rent, maybe not in the best area but you can. newark isnt the nicest place but neither was new orelans. if i lost everything id move somewhere that had housing and jobs and i would stop whining and get on with life. this govt/fema help was never supposed to be life long help. i am sorry its ending by the holidays but taxpayers can not justify hotels and help forever. all good things come to an end. so get up and get a job and get on with life. i am sure she can find some kind of a job and the childrens parents can send her some money to support her grandkids. if they have passed away she needs to look into ssi. lifes not fair in general but thats how it is.


41 posted on 11/28/2005 6:01:17 AM PST by pandoraou812
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To: Calpernia

http://wwmt.com/engine.pl?station=wwmt&id=21404&template=breakout_state.html



Government paying hotel costs for evacuees who moved out

November 28, 2005 - 8:39AM
SOUTHFIELD (AP) - Hurricane Katrina evacuee Anthony Wells Senior moved back to New Orleans three weeks ago. So did Yarnell Green. But both Hurricane Katrina evacuees still have rooms at the Southfield Hotel - courtesy of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

The rooms are among nine at the hotel - formerly the Southfield Ramada - that are registered to evacuees who have moved out or who could not be located. The government is paying at least $325 a week for the rooms.

Hotel administrator Wallace Wells says some residents left without checking out and it's possible they will return or that family members are using the rooms.

A FEMA spokesman says the hotel reimbursement program is nearly impossible to police and that FEMA would learn of problems only if "someone calls in a tip."


42 posted on 11/28/2005 6:03:53 AM PST by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Ellesu

This is really a disorganized mess!

Can't New Orleans be subject to having to pay the federal government back? They are the ones that created this situation and their corruption and dependency conditioning.

I think once the ports are open again, New Orleans should be subjected to some payment plan to reimburse.


43 posted on 11/28/2005 6:10:36 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Lazamataz
But give them a little lead-time to get on.

Color me jaded......but I believe that most have had a lifetime to "get on".... Those that feed at the trough will do so until the feed runs out.....

44 posted on 11/28/2005 6:11:36 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: pgyanke

Bingo!!!


45 posted on 11/28/2005 6:13:03 AM PST by NonValueAdded (The honorable Richard Cheney, X man!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
But really, how long are these people going to be in hotels?

Until New Orleans is rebuilt???

46 posted on 11/28/2005 6:13:07 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Lazamataz
Thirty days for getting your rent and deposit money up.

Shouldn’t that have been a priority from day 1?
47 posted on 11/28/2005 6:13:50 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Calpernia
The hotel I stay in when I make my regular trips to California has been charging me extra lately because it is full of FEMA-financed gulf coasters.

The ones I saw mostly sit around all day drinking beer and watching TV. I've heard no talk amongst them about looking for a job or trying to improve their lot.

Our tax dollars at work.

48 posted on 11/28/2005 6:14:28 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: starfish923

Sha na nana Shanana Shana na na na Yip yip yip yip yip yip yip boom boom boom boom boom boom Get a job.


49 posted on 11/28/2005 6:17:43 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Calpernia

After reading the article on FEMA's website, it sounds like they will still work to provide housing, just not expensive hotel rooms. I don't know what the complaints are about.


50 posted on 11/28/2005 6:17:43 AM PST by mlc9852
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