Skip to comments.THE END OF AMERICA?
Posted on 11/28/2005 5:39:36 AM PST by beaureguard
The Drudge Report is reporting this morning that several broadcast television networks are considering a series loosely based on the concept of the end of America. Details on the various programs aren't yet available, but my bet is that the fictional end will come through either terrorism or some sort of a natural disaster.
The networks have part of this right. The end of America as we know it could well be on the horizon. The networks just wouldn't dare present the end as it very well may happen. The death of America will more likely come from the advancement of the American welfare state.
Empires have life expectancies. The history of civilization would tell us that a country based on freedom and economic liberty generally last just a bit over 200 years. If you know of such a society that has lasted well beyond the 200-year mark, let me know. I haven't been able to find one. Our Constitution was ratified on December 15th, 1791. In just a few weeks the United States of America will be 214 years old. That, for those of you who went to government schools, is just a bit over 200 years.
You can trace the decline of American to several different and varied beginning point. Among them:
1. The adoption of a graduated and progressive income tax, as envisioned by Karl Marx.
2. The adoption of a system of government education of our children, again as envisioned by Karl Marx.
3. The movement away from a rule of law to a rule of the majority (Democracy) which really took hold during the days of Franklin Roosevelt.
America, the welfare state, is growing steadily. In the last few weeks we started George Bush's Medicare prescription drug program. The original estimates for this welfare boondoggle ran at about $300 billion for the next ten years. Those estimates doubled before the program even began. The actual tab will probably be closer to one trillion dollars for the first ten years .. and growing after that. Baby boomers will be retiring over the next decade. As they retire they will start drawing down Social Security and Medicare dollars by the bucketful. The cost will be enormous. As presently structured, these income transfer programs can't handle it, but all attempts at reform, at least insofar as Social Security is concerned, have failed.
Back to the main point. Americans are no longer in love with freedom. In fact, the case can be made that Americans are afraid of freedom. Oh, they want to be free to go on vacation and to chose where to live, who to marry and what to wear each day, but that just about covers it. Americans want the government to educate their children, guarantee their jobs, determine their wages, provide them with medical care, pay for their prescriptions, insure their comfort in retirement, regulate their business competitors, and control the actions of their neighbors. If you suggest that the responsibility for any of these factors be placed back into the hands of the individual the screams and howls of outrage and indignation will be heard across the country.
If the networks want to do a series on the end of America, their script has already been written ... .by some Russian named Ayn Rand.
Then DIE STANDING UP! ;)
Walter Williams sometimes fills in for Limbaugh. Usually when he does he'll interview Thomas Sowell. The two of them together are great.
Townhall.com carries Sowell's columns which I try to read regularly.
Sure you can---it's more free than Cuba. It's more free than China. It might be less free than you'd like it, but "free" is one of those moving target-type definitions, is it not?
Boortz is using this argument as a rhetorical device; nothing more, nothing less. In order to whip the faithful into a frenzy.
When these "projects" crater like the Hiroshima bomb, will the studios and networks wake up and realize that the consuming public is sick of America-bashing? Will they understand that an edgy public wants movies that comfort them, that reassure them, that tell them they're doing the right thing? Or will they continue to invest millions in products nobody wants to buy?
So you disagree with him?
Funny thing is...this isnt the first time the Hollywood types have rolled out something like this. There was that stinker. "AMERIKA" with Kris Kristofferson in the early eighties.
How about Hollywood have a good ole future war movie where the US gets attacked by roving bands of jihadis that crossed the border...regular citizens send them to ALLAH, via Smith and Wesson, and the US remains the good ole US...or is that to positive for them?
The history of civilization would tell us there isn't enough data on which to base that kind of statement.
I believe he's being hyperbolic in order to make a point. And I do tend to be leery of opinion pieces signing America's death certificate, yes.
Starring Claire Wolfe, Boston T. Party, and friends?
There you go mentioning the M word again.........you know it is not polite in today's society to name those who want to kill us.
The Empire is gone. The United Kingdom as a world power is gone. British subjects endure a sort of "anarcho-tyrany" where criminals are armed and have rights, but the law-abiding do not.
Our politicinas sold us out to the Corporations. The Corporations are selling us out to the world.
Actually, I like the one where an illegal is arrested, counter-sues for representation, and wins. Blue staters and illegal aliens promptly vote the country into a bankrupt third-world hell.
Of course, 'Pubbies are doing a pretty good job on bankruptcy without blue-stater help.
The Roman Republic started in 509 BC with the overthrow of King Tarquin the Proud. It was replaced by Imperial Rome in 27 BC when Octavian claiming title of Augustus. That is 482 years.
Are you seriously claiming that the Roman Republic was based on "freedom and economic liberty?"
In truth, it was much more of a proto-Nazi Republic, totally dedicated to the domination of the Roman master race over the world, and to the domination of the Roman aristocracy over other Romans. The Republic's only real saving grace was that for most of the Republican period it was relatively easy to become a Roman.
The "History Channel" had "The Siege" on yesterday. Did I miss something that really happened in this country?
There were a number of different issues surrounding the Whiskey Rebellion, but the settlers in western Pennsylvania who rose up against the Federal troops had one indisputable argument on their side . . . When a Federal government that was incapable of providing military assistance to the region to ward off attacks from British troops and Indian raiders at the tail end of the Revolutionary War (the last battle of the American Revolution actually took place in late 1782 in southwestern Pennsylvania -- a year after the defeat of Cornwallis at Yorktown!) somehow finds the resources to send troops to enforce a Federal tax on whiskey, it's easy to understand why those settlers did not consider the Federal government to be legitimate in any way.
I'm very curious which countries Neal is using to establish this baseline.
I contend that prior to the the establishment of the US there were no countries "based on freedom and economic liberty."
"Many of those things existed before Marx, honestly, Marx, as a political philosopher is WAAAAAY overrated. Most of his ideas were proposed, or at least implimented before, and his original ideas are a combination of assumptions, over generalizations, and over simplifications"
I must say I'd have to agree with the above. Remember communists and leftie loon liberals rarely have an original thought and never have a solution. The Clinton parasites are proof of that.
Many people are ready to start sniping AT the minorities.
Neal is using the country of "Thin Air", which was located a thousand years ago in the allusive region of "Conventional Wisdom."
America as we know it ended a long time ago, around 1933. It is not too late to save our nation. To do so would require the understanding that the greatest threat to the United States today is liberalism.
Liberal goals in 1933 were as follows:
To make innocuous the institution of family & marriage.
To remove borders and erode sovereignty
To Make government the final artitor of society.
To work toward world government
To remove individual responsibility and replace it with govcare.
To replace Constitutional Rule of Law by arbitrary whim.
To render national currency worthless.
To remove the world from the gold standard.
To require schools to bow to government bureaucrats.
To monitor the movement of citizens from place to place.
To require national ID for each person.
To fremove religion from the popular culture.
To: add your own.
As anyone can see, they have mostly suceeded.
You have that right. Neal's has a point, but he does not make it well here. There are alot of examples, such as Athens and part of Rome's early history. Yet on the other hand all civilizations practised slavery. Also, in 1900 only 5% of the world could vote for their politicians and now over 50% can.
I have felt this way for quite some time now. What with groups trying to take away
It's sickening. And I find a lot of truth in this article. People don't want to believe it, but with "One Nation Under God," and Merry CHRISTmas, and In God We Trust being pulled from our lives, what else are we to think?
The end of America will be traced to hundreds of thousands spending coutless hours on meaningless discussions of repetitive trivial issues on thousands of internet sites.
The End of America. Isn't that what the MSM and Libs want?
This isnt a Democracy, its a Republic. And in a Republic respect for minorities is expected. However it can be carried too far.
You betcha brother. Happiness is a belt fed machine gun. If you gotta...go with a smile.
Even the "Weekly Standard" is pushing an agenda of governing from the center. It seems the Republican party has been hijacked by those with a zest for power, and is no longer a party of conservatism or constructionism.
Thanks for the link; I usually can't listen to Limbaugh at work, and when I can, he's never on....and I don't know if it's been Walter Williams who subs....maybe so...but, I'm always disappointed because of Murphy's Law being in control of my radio listening opportunities. : )
Today we drink, tomorrow we die?
Yeah, that's a hot one. How about the one where a U.S. Citizen had a judge tell him he had to give his property to an illegal alien?
Rats are for anyone/anything this is an anathema to U.S. American or U.S. patriot.
And the pubbies surely are spending like drunken sailors.
England cannot exist without the U.S. backing them.
The dentist is an idiot. Their idea of "taxing everyone equally" will be an income tax of 100%. Each individual will then get what he or she "needs" as determined by the government. NO longer will your work be rewarded but your NEEDS, so the neediest will get the most and put in the least. As many have found out before, this system cannot and will not work and is doomed to failure.
That these countries tend to last only a little more than 200 years is a quite specific allegation.
The barbarian invaders (our illegals) helped put the nails in Rome's coffin.
And all we have to stop them is the cowardly GOP who would rather try to out liberal the liberals than to do what is right. Look at them, can you name 5 times in the past 25 years where rights have been given back to the people?
Exactly. We've slowly but voluntarily (democratic majorities over time) given up our freedoms in exchance for 'entitlements' and dependency and the ability to micromanage other peoples lives. It's sad.
Don't forget the rise of the Transnationalist Free Traders, also advocated by Marx.
Are you seriously claiming that the Roman Republic was based on "freedom and economic liberty?"
Yes! And as far as a 'society' goes, as opposed to a particular system of government Rome went on for ANOTHER 500 years after the replacement of the Republic with the Empire. And if you count Constantanople, it went on even longer.
Look for the Balkanization of the Southwest as a cause for the breakup.
Radical Mexican Americans are already calling for reunification with Mexico--and the newly elected mayor of Los Angeles was one of them.
Here is the drudge article:
NETWORKS PLAN 'END OF AMERICA' SHOWS
The TV networks are getting edgier in their '06 pilot plans.
The nets have filled their development slates with a bevy of brave ideas and bold format experiments, VARIETY reports on Monday, including shows about THE END OF AMERICA!
ABC alone has at least two would-be shows set in post-apocalyptic America ("Resistance" and "Red & Blue") while Gavin Polone and Bruce Wagner are teaming for the comfy-sounding plague drama "Four Horsemen" at CBS (which also is developing "Jericho," about life in a small town after America is destroyed).
Says Fox exec VP Craig Erwich: "The creative community appears to be really inspired this year," he says. "It was an exciting time to be buying. I came away pretty encouraged about network TV."
The end of the country started with the creation of a elite ruling class of over-educated, anti-religious individuals. After WW2, this group seized power and slowly pushed for the development of (1) world government, (2) a comprehensive welfare state and (3) the elimination of religion from American life. It is only when this group (media, academia, foundations, most politicians) are overthrown will the prospects for saving the country from its current death spiral improve. The basic instincts and values of most Americans are solid. We only need a leadership that will draw out those values.
American Colleges and Universitys don't agree with you.. They are staffed and administrated by overt or covert Marxists more+ than 90%.. Currently brain washing Americas youth with republican majority control funding blessings. About the best you can get from Americas Academia is a RINO.. since American history has already been rewritten by THEM.. People that READ Marx are Marxists, people that UNDERSTAND Marx are Anti-Marxists..