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WACO, Texas - President Bush is trying to build support for a comprehensive immigration strategy — and mollify conservatives wary of his guest worker plan for foreigners — even though Congress has shelved the issue for now.
Republican congressional leaders have postponed work on immigration proposals until early next year, partly because lawmakers are divided over the scope of such changes and whether foreigners illegally working in the United States should be allowed to stay.
The president was leaving his Crawford, Texas, ranch after spending nearly a week there for Thanksgiving, to pitch his plan in Tucson, Ariz., on Monday, and El Paso, Texas, on Tuesday. The border states are home to GOP senators who have been vocal on the need to change immigration laws but who aren't entirely sold on Bush's vision.
The president's plan pairs a guest worker program for foreigners with border security enforcement, an attempt to satisfy both his business supporters, who believe foreign workers help the economy, and his conservative backers, who take a hard line on illegal immigration.
In Tucson, the president planned to aim his remarks at those conservatives, emphasizing his proposals to secure the border, remove people who enter the country illegally and strengthen enforcement of immigration laws.
Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., asked Bush in a letter Monday to encourage bipartisan and realistic reforms to immigration laws.
"Enforcement alone does not work. Unless we address the gap between our immigration laws and reality, illegal immigration will not stop and the situation on the border will continue to be chaotic," Reid said.
The Democrat implored Bush to "stand up to the right wing of your party and stand up for what is right" by taking more than an enforcement-only approach to illegal immigration.
The president's two-day push on border security and immigration comes a month after Bush signed a $32 billion homeland security bill for 2006 that contains large increases for border protection, including 1,000 additional Border Patrol agents.
Bush has been urging Congress to act on a guest worker program for more than a year. Under his plan, undocumented aliens would be allowed to get three-year work visas. They could extend that for an additional three years, but would then have to return to their home countries for a year to apply for a new work permit.
The guest worker program has met some resistance in Congress, where several bills on the issue have been introduced.
Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., along with Sen. Edward Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., has proposed providing illegal aliens in the United States visas for up to six years. After that, they must either leave the United States or be in the pipeline for a green card, which indicates lawful permanent residency.
Sens. John Cornyn, R-Texas, and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., support an alternative proposal that would require illegal aliens to return to their home country to apply for a temporary worker program.
Senate GOP leaders plan to take up legislation early next year that will address a guest worker program. Their counterparts in the House have indicated they want to take up border security first and then move to a guest worker program.
While in Arizona on Monday, the president also planned to attend a fund-raiser in Phoenix for Kyl as campaigning for next year's congressional elections gets under way.
Republican congressional leaders have postponed work on immigration proposals until early next year, partly because lawmakers are divided over the scope of such changes and whether foreigners illegally working in the United States should be allowed to stay.
The president was leaving his Crawford, Texas, ranch after spending nearly a week there for Thanksgiving, to pitch his plan in Tucson, Ariz., on Monday, and El Paso, Texas, on Tuesday. The border states are home to GOP senators who have been vocal on the need to change immigration laws but who aren't entirely sold on Bush's vision.
The president's plan pairs a guest worker program for foreigners with border security enforcement, an attempt to satisfy both his business supporters, who believe foreign workers help the economy, and his conservative backers, who take a hard line on illegal immigration.
In Tucson, the president planned to aim his remarks at those conservatives, emphasizing his proposals to secure the border, remove people who enter the country illegally and strengthen enforcement of immigration laws.
Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., asked Bush in a letter Monday to encourage bipartisan and realistic reforms to immigration laws.
"Enforcement alone does not work. Unless we address the gap between our immigration laws and reality, illegal immigration will not stop and the situation on the border will continue to be chaotic," Reid said.
The Democrat implored Bush to "stand up to the right wing of your party and stand up for what is right" by taking more than an enforcement-only approach to illegal immigration.
The president's two-day push on border security and immigration comes a month after Bush signed a $32 billion homeland security bill for 2006 that contains large increases for border protection, including 1,000 additional Border Patrol agents.
Bush has been urging Congress to act on a guest worker program for more than a year. Under his plan, undocumented aliens would be allowed to get three-year work visas. They could extend that for an additional three years, but would then have to return to their home countries for a year to apply for a new work permit.
The guest worker program has met some resistance in Congress, where several bills on the issue have been introduced.
Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., along with Sen. Edward Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., has proposed providing illegal aliens in the United States visas for up to six years. After that, they must either leave the United States or be in the pipeline for a green card, which indicates lawful permanent residency.
Sens. John Cornyn, R-Texas, and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., support an alternative proposal that would require illegal aliens to return to their home country to apply for a temporary worker program.
Senate GOP leaders plan to take up legislation early next year that will address a guest worker program. Their counterparts in the House have indicated they want to take up border security first and then move to a guest worker program.
While in Arizona on Monday, the president also planned to attend a fund-raiser in Phoenix for Kyl as campaigning for next year's congressional elections gets under way.
When (if ever) will he get that Americans don't want mhis amnesty?
We don't need no stinkin' new plan. Just enforce existing laws.
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.
Bush has done a lot on the illegal immigration issue.
Under Bush U.S now sends the mexican illegals back far inland from the border into mainland mexico.
Under Bush U.S using predator drone planes to track illegals which Clinton was against.
Under Bush U.S is now going to deport all illegals when captured along the border not just mexicans as had been the policy under Hillary and Bill.
Under Bush we now have thousands more border agents
Under Bush we now have a lot more detention beds to hold the illegals.
Under Bush the fence in southestern california is going to be completed.
Kyl has a plan for 10,000 more border agents and Duncan Hunter has a plan for a fence on the whole border. Those will be fillabustered by the dems though lead by hillary.
There are even proposals by gop reps to change anchor baby laws. We also need legislation on state tuition.
Affirmative action is far worse than illegals coming here. It is one thing for them to come here and get the same rights as everyone else but the supreme court has ruled that illegals who are minorities get affirmative action.
We need to defeat affirmative action in Michigan next year. Don't reward illegals for coming here.
Amen, brotha.
More postponment by America's Illegal Alien President. GWB is the first illegal that should be deported.
The ideal immigration plan for the US-Mexico border includes machine gun nests and minefields along the border.
Expecting more BS.
We have a problem along the Southern border?
Wow!
News to me!
A lot of that land on the border is owned by private property owners who would never let the federal govt build a fence on the border. The best we could ever do is build a fence in other areas. Those areas would also be sued by the aclu with dem support saying the fence hurts the enviornment. The dems in california are using the enviornment to block duncan hunter's fence proposal there.
Also remember the U.S constitution bars federal troops from having law enforcement powers. U.S troops are not allowed to guard our country's own borders. So that leaves it up to our B Team the border patrol. Constitution is wrong in this matter a lot of countries have their troops guard their border except for ours.
A guest worker plan, with the stated aim of "working for 6 years, then forcing their return" is a JOKE AND DISHONEST.
First of all, how many of the illegals who would even register does the President HONESTLY think will not have "anchor babies" during this 6-year period, thereby making it all but impossible to enforcing their return to their "home" countries? The ACLU, and others of their ilk, has more than likely already drafted boiler template motions for filing in courts across America to use against the U.S. "forced" return of illegals in the President's "plan."
Secondly, we already hear how "unfair" it is to "uproot" illegals who have made America their "home" by being in America for x, y, or z years....now we'll get to hear how "cruel and inhumane" it will be to "trick" illegals into registering so they can later be deported.
Then we'll get to hear how the illegals, who have registered, have "followed the law" and they have a "right" to STAY IN THE U.S.......indefinitely. Every excuse in the book will be given for illegals to stay here, even though they never waited in line to get in and jumped in front of those who have.
As far as 1,000 border patrolmen/women being added, that's a joke. How many MILES AND MILES of open borders do we have? If the President had been serious about border patrol/illegal immigration, he would done something immediately after 9/11 and the number of border patrol would be in numbers appropriate for the task. Had the President been serious about patrolling our border, he would not have pulled off how many border patrol from patrolling the borders during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Had the President been serious about the borders, the Minutemen would never have even organized to do the Fed's job. Had the President been serious about patrolling our borders and keeping Americans safe, he would not have been calling the Minutemen "vigilantes."
"Tell me lies, tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies."
No laws, old or new, will do any good UNTIL WE HAVE A DAMN FENCE to keep out those who do not obey the laws, which would be most every desperate person in Mexico. By the way, I'm all for having lots of Mexicans in the USA, but legally.
The quislings have been mostly quiet for months until today when Bush is preparing to give his speech on the border issue in Arizona. Funny how they all show up about now to push their talking points. I'm suspicious.
Too Little, Too Late, BAD PLAN Anyway ... Send Them ALL HOME. Case closed.
If eminent domain can be used to build parking lots for private stores, I guess the government can use it to build a darn fence to keep undocumented possibly dangerous people out of our country.
Untrue. See Article IV Section 4. In fact, guarding our borders is one of the primary purposes of our troops, far more so than wars in distant nations.
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